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<title>Re:[10.2.4] &quot;I think the police have the wrong guy&quot; - Syntax - 6/5/08</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;She was not abducted. Abduction is the illegal carrying or enticing away of a person. Seeing as the Machines are the authority of the system, they did not take her illegally. She was taken into custody legally because she was suspected of aiding terrorists despite what the system and it&amp;#39;s operatives had done to protect her earlier from the sniper. As with most people in custody they are held for questioning for a certain period of time before being formally charged or released. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Her being &amp;#39;rescued&amp;#39; by EPN is evidence towards her being used by or indeed actually being a terrorist and as such any further incidences with her will see her being held on actual charges of terrorism instead of a suspicion of aiding terrorists.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Well done EPN, instead of waiting to see what the outcome of her situation would be, your misguided &amp;#39;moral and ethical&amp;#39; decision and ethos has in fact condemned her to either a life of caves and war outside the simulation or persued as a terrorist inside the simulation. Do you think in a few months time she&amp;#39;ll still be thanking you?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 9 Jun 2008 03:56:34 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[10.2.4] &quot;I think the police have the wrong guy&quot; - Syntax - 6/5/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Vinia wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;She was not abducted. Abduction is the illegal carrying or enticing away of a person. Seeing as the Machines are the authority of the system, they did not take her illegally. She was taken into custody legally because she was suspected of aiding terrorists despite what the system and it&amp;#39;s operatives had done to protect her earlier from the sniper. As with most people in custody they are held for questioning for a certain period of time before being formally charged or released. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Her being &amp;#39;rescued&amp;#39; by EPN is evidence towards her being used by or indeed actually being a terrorist and as such any further incidences with her will see her being held on actual charges of terrorism instead of a suspicion of aiding terrorists.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Well done EPN, instead of waiting to see what the outcome of her situation would be, your misguided &amp;#39;moral and ethical&amp;#39; decision and ethos has in fact condemned her to either a life of caves and war outside the simulation or persued as a terrorist inside the simulation. Do you think in a few months time she&amp;#39;ll still be thanking you?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is your problem....&lt;br /&gt;You think to Bluepill like thing, Theresa not belong to machines, she not belong to the system, so tell me, what if&amp;nbsp; you were her, time ago you where luck and zion offer you the choice to see the truth, and today you choose to fight for the machine, you choose yourself, you choose cause you are free to do that like individual, you are not a thing....&amp;nbsp; So why Theresa do not have the right to choose as individual to?? You think to be better than her.....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We can have condamned her to a life of caves and war, but are real things not all lies, and all the free humans know that is better live in the desert of real than not live at all in a fake simulation.... If we think than in a few month she still thanking us? You can bet it Vinia, cause we offered her the same choiche that once you haved and that all human should have...&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 9 Jun 2008 05:35:35 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[10.2.4] &quot;I think the police have the wrong guy&quot; - Syntax - 6/5/08</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;SEPET wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;This is your problem....&lt;br /&gt;You think to Bluepill like thing, Theresa not belong to machines, she not belong to the system, so tell me, what if&amp;nbsp; you were her, time ago you where luck and zion offer you the choice to see the truth, and today you choose to fight for the machine, you choose yourself, you choose cause you are free to do that like individual, you are not a thing....&amp;nbsp; So why Theresa do not have the right to choose as individual to?? You think to be better than her.....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We can have condamned her to a life of caves and war, but are real things not all lies, and all the free humans know that is better live in the desert of real than not live at all in a fake simulation.... If we think than in a few month she still thanking us? You can bet it Vinia, cause we offered her the same choiche that once you haved and that all human should have...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Funny isn&amp;#39;t it how Humans wouldn&amp;#39;t hesitate calling something they made, despite having&amp;nbsp;it&amp;#39;s own intelligence, property. Yet when the Machines create Humans in the fields you deny the same logic. Does she belong to the Machines and to the system? Some would most likely say yes... she does. She was made by them, she was part of their system. But no I don&amp;#39;t think of her as a thing otherwise I wouldn&amp;#39;t be concerned about her safety and her future.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As for the choice, I&amp;#39;ve said it before everyone has the choice and makes it day in, day out. What gives Zion the right to prey on Mankinds innate sense of curiosity and &lt;i&gt;make&lt;/i&gt; them choose once more and at the same time introduce more and more uncertainty to their lives? Also you are wrong. Not all free Humans think that it is better to live in the real. Do you really think that caves, war, fear that is experienced in the real are better for each and every person than a home, peace, comfort and their own lives&amp;nbsp;in a simulation?&amp;nbsp;Cypherites are a case in point as is Danielle Wright, plus I suspect many Merovingian operatives would prefer to live in the simulation as much as possible.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That &amp;#39;fake&amp;#39; simulation as you put it, allows for Humans to comfortably live out their lives as our ancestors did, with no war to worry about, the only thing affecting their lives are their own decisions and those of others around them. This is the only way to ensure Mankinds continued safety and existance&amp;nbsp;as a species until the day when Mankind is able to live with the Machines without malice and prejudice, in the meantime people like myself will be trying to show the Machines that Humans can do just that.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Just because you imposed your &amp;#39;choice&amp;#39; on her doesn&amp;#39;t mean she&amp;#39;ll be thanking you down the line. How many recruits have died due to Zion and EPN operations in the real? You have inflicted the war and sufering on the poor woman. Now tell me, was that mentioned to her when offering the choice? Was she told the full extent of the situation? Or did you come up with the awfully convenient line of &amp;#39;we can&amp;#39;t tell you exactly, you&amp;#39;ll have to see for yourself&amp;#39;? Not everyone you free will be a Zionite or member of EPN, and No I don&amp;#39;t thank Zion for waking me, my choice was based on the teams omitting of certain aspects of the &amp;#39;truth&amp;#39; and clouding other to try to convince me to see their side of things. I quickly saw the full picture of things which is why I so quickly left Zion.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I wasn&amp;#39;t even ready, In fact I was lucky to get through extraction intact. I&amp;#39;ve since been told that you shouldn&amp;#39;t release a mind after it reaches a certain age as the mind has difficulties letting go. I take it Zion and EPN ignore this now?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 9 Jun 2008 06:13:14 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[10.2.4] &quot;I think the police have the wrong guy&quot; - Syntax - 6/5/08</title>
<description>yes Vinia ou are right.... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your Mind is old, like your way of thinking, and until you continue thinking in that way you thinking, you can cry that you don&amp;#39;t choose the right pill, but Vinia again... now You CAN.......&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Think it!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Opsss....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Before change thinking , then think it!&amp;nbsp; &lt;img src=&quot;/mxo/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;SMILEY&quot; /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 9 Jun 2008 06:56:57 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[10.2.4] &quot;I think the police have the wrong guy&quot; - Syntax - 6/5/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Vinia wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;She was not abducted. Abduction is the illegal carrying or enticing away of a person. Seeing as the Machines are the authority of the system, they did not take her illegally. She was taken into custody legally because she was suspected of aiding terrorists despite what the system and it&amp;#39;s operatives had done to protect her earlier from the sniper. As with most people in custody they are held for questioning for a certain period of time before being formally charged or released. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And this statement finally exposes that you have no morality of your own, and that you simply follow whatever rule they throw out there. You realize this is the same mentality that permitted slavery, segregation, and genocides, most notably, the holocaust? But no worry, mother machine knows what&amp;#39;s best, doesn&amp;#39;t she? Certainly, she hasn&amp;#39;t killed bluepills before. &lt;i&gt;Oh wait...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As for her &amp;quot;release&amp;quot; - why don&amp;#39;t you go fetch her release date from the agents? Or is that information too classified for someone of&amp;nbsp;a human security clearance level? They knew she wanted nothing to do with them and that she would almost certainly seek EPN out again if freed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But it&amp;#39;s funny, really, how you can say that they&amp;#39;re oh-so confused about the entire situation, yet cognizant enough to escape your clutches and &amp;quot;be in bed with &amp;#39;terrorists&amp;#39;&amp;quot; in the same breath. Which is it? Are they too low on the totem pole to understand the world around them? Or do they freely and willingly aid and abide &amp;quot;terrorists?&amp;quot; You can&amp;#39;t have your cake and eat it too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39;t think you&amp;#39;ve any say in whether or not she was &amp;quot;condemned&amp;quot; to begin with, nor do I think you have any voice to say that &lt;i&gt;EPN&lt;/i&gt; forced her into it. If you might take a gander at their bluepill log, they had, for a while, classified her as one not to be awakened, yet &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; forced their hand by abducting (a word I and many others clearly define as the forced movement and holding of someone against their own will) Theresa Morton, making the red pill the only way for her to evade Machine pursuit. She never would have escaped government custody within the Matrix and even if she had attempted to by running every day and every night, can you really call that a better existance than the truth she was already interested in, found in the Real? You would call that a comfortable existence?&amp;nbsp;She would have found only overwrite or death within the Matrix, with overwrite being as good as death.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Most of humanity can find a somewhat comfortable, or, at the very least, satisfying existence in the Real and&amp;nbsp;the very fact that you would even mention Cypherites as a &amp;quot;counterexample&amp;quot; shows that you&amp;#39;re grabbing for straws. But I see far more Cypherites than I do Machinists these days anyway. Funny how those tunes changed when they &lt;i&gt;told you&lt;/i&gt; to start fighting us. Funny how awakenings suddenly became highest felony. Hilarious how two once distinct factions, one which supported the Machines and worked in close cooperation with Zion for over two years suddenly has become indistinct from the one which has worked to eliminate freedom and promote control from the beginning.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39;t know that I even see Machinists anymore. And I wonder how many of them can see themselves for that man in the mask and the cold eyes staring back at them through the mirror&amp;#39;s glass.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:14:52 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[10.2.4] &quot;I think the police have the wrong guy&quot; - Syntax - 6/5/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Neoteny wrote:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;And this statement finally exposes that you have no morality of your own, and that you simply follow whatever rule they throw out there. You realize this is the same mentality that permitted slavery, segregation, and genocides, most notably, the holocast? But no worry, mother machine knows what&amp;#39;s best, doesn&amp;#39;t she? Certainly, she hasn&amp;#39;t killed bluepills before. &lt;i&gt;Oh wait...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As for her &amp;quot;release&amp;quot; - why don&amp;#39;t you go fetch her release date from the agents? Or is that information too classified for someone of&amp;nbsp;a human security clearance level? They knew she wanted nothing to do with them and that she would almost certainly seek EPN out again if freed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But it&amp;#39;s funny, really, how you can say that they&amp;#39;re oh-so confused about the entire situation, yet cognizant enough to escape your clutches and &amp;quot;be in bed with &amp;#39;terrorists&amp;#39;&amp;quot; in the same breath. Which is it? Are they too low on the totem pole to understand the world around them? Or do they freely and willingly aid and abide &amp;quot;terrorists?&amp;quot; You can&amp;#39;t have your cake and eat it too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39;t think you&amp;#39;ve any say in whether or not she was &amp;quot;condemned&amp;quot; to begin with, nor do I think you have any voice to say that &lt;i&gt;EPN&lt;/i&gt; forced her into it. If you might take a gander at their bluepill log, they had, for a while, classified her as one not to be awakened, yet &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; forced their hand by abducting (a word I and many others clearly define as the forced movement and holding of someone against their own will) Theresa Morton, making the red pill the only way for her to evade Machine pursuit. She never would have escaped government custody within the Matrix and even if she had attempted to by running every day and every night, can you really call that a better existance than the truth she was already interested in, found in the Real? You would call that a comfortable existence?&amp;nbsp;She would have found only overwrite or death within the Matrix, with overwrite being as good as death.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Most of humanity can find a somewhat comfortable, or, at the very least, satisfying existence in the Real and&amp;nbsp;the very fact that you would even mention Cypherites as a &amp;quot;counterexample&amp;quot; shows that you&amp;#39;re grabbing for straws. But I see far more Cypherites than I do Machinists these days anyway. Funny how those tunes changed when they &lt;i&gt;told you&lt;/i&gt; to start fighting us. Funny how awakenings suddenly became highest felony. Hilarious how two once distinct factions, one which supported the Machines and worked in close cooperation with Zion for over two years suddenly has become indistinct from the one which has worked to eliminate freedom and promote control from the beginning.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39;t know that I even see Machinists anymore. And I wonder how many of them can see themselves for that man in the mask and the cold eyes staring back at them through the mirror&amp;#39;s glass.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The rules have been this way since the beginning, they&amp;nbsp;were there in civilised human society since&amp;nbsp;before AI and again within the simulation. It&amp;#39;s called law, morality has nothing to do with following laws that&amp;nbsp;are not unjust. The arresting of a person suspected of aiding terrorists is not unjustified.&amp;nbsp;If I had no morality I would not have been opposed to Pace&amp;#39;s sanction of a bluepill murder. I was.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Her choice of aiding you does not mean she knew enough about the simulation to warrant awakening. Curiosity is one thing wanting out and away from the law is another.&amp;nbsp;Even&amp;nbsp;according to your bluepill&amp;nbsp;log, she wasn&amp;#39;t ready.&amp;nbsp;Do you think she was in her right mind after the events a week or two earlier? Did you give her a psyche evaluation? She didn&amp;#39;t exactly escape her detention of her own abilities did she, she had the intervention of you &amp;#39;Crusaders&amp;#39;. And yes, you condemned her as soon as you insisted on breaking her out of legal detention. EPN used her arrest (a word that is defined by a legal forced movement and holding of someone against their own will) as an excuse to make her choose. Funny how it used to be those who wanted out of the simulation should be freed, now it&amp;#39;s just anyone who is in trouble with the authorities.&amp;nbsp;You are unable to say that she wouldn&amp;#39;t have been released, you cannot say she would have been overwritten. You only make these accusations to further justify your actions.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39;t see how stating that Cypherites&amp;nbsp;is clutching at straws. They are Humans who preferred life in the Simulation,&amp;nbsp;did you take that into consideration when you see increasing numbers of them, within the simulation?&amp;nbsp;I also gave Danielle Wright as an example, is that clutching at straws too?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You obviously aren&amp;#39;t looking very hard at the two factions. One is willing to commit to violence whenever possible while the other would prefer to proceed in alternative ways, but Zion and EPN are the cause of many people&amp;#39;s attitudes changing. Zion was sanctioned to wake potentials during the truce, that changed once you broke it so yes, you actions while trespassing within the simulation are seen as felony&amp;#39;s. I find it hilarious that you are unable to make&amp;nbsp;the distinction between murdering group of masked to whom violence is the only way to achieve anything and would rather see humanity sleep permanently and a group of people who work to better relations between mankind and machinekind in an aim to get them to eventually live together for mutual benefit.&amp;nbsp;Zion and EPN actions are&amp;nbsp;destroying what&amp;nbsp;Machinists are working for so we have no choice but&amp;nbsp;take steps against you. However as always, Machinists prefer alternative ways to achieve objectives&amp;nbsp;such as taking a suspect&amp;nbsp;into custody and questioning her rather than, for example, simply killing her. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We are not the only ones who have killed bluepills. I seem to remember a new redpill program, that wasn&amp;#39;t tested enough, used on a bluepill who didn&amp;#39;t make it. Do you blame that on the Machines? Do you blame them because they were at war with you and were exploiting a security hole? How about looking further into why they were at war with you, why they were exploiting that security...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:01:10 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[10.2.4] &quot;I think the police have the wrong guy&quot; - Syntax - 6/5/08</title>
<description>(( On a lighter note, I was the guy in the last picture shooting at the agent with my trusty shotgun! Wooo! My first event, and I&amp;nbsp;make an appearence in a relatively cool shot =) *Happy* ))</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:04:47 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[10.2.4] &quot;I think the police have the wrong guy&quot; - Syntax - 6/5/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Neoteny wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;And this statement finally exposes that you have no morality of your own, and that you simply follow whatever rule they throw out there. You realize this is the same mentality that permitted slavery, segregation, and genocides, most notably, the holocast? But no worry, mother machine knows what&amp;#39;s best, doesn&amp;#39;t she? Certainly, she hasn&amp;#39;t killed bluepills before. &lt;i&gt;Oh wait...&lt;/i&gt; &lt;p&gt;As for her &amp;quot;release&amp;quot; - why don&amp;#39;t you go fetch her release date from the agents? Or is that information too classified for someone of&amp;nbsp;a human security clearance level? They knew she wanted nothing to do with them and that she would almost certainly seek EPN out again if freed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But it&amp;#39;s funny, really, how you can say that they&amp;#39;re oh-so confused about the entire situation, yet cognizant enough to escape your clutches and &amp;quot;be in bed with &amp;#39;terrorists&amp;#39;&amp;quot; in the same breath. Which is it? Are they too low on the totem pole to understand the world around them? Or do they freely and willingly aid and abide &amp;quot;terrorists?&amp;quot; You can&amp;#39;t have your cake and eat it too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39;t think you&amp;#39;ve any say in whether or not she was &amp;quot;condemned&amp;quot; to begin with, nor do I think you have any voice to say that &lt;i&gt;EPN&lt;/i&gt; forced her into it. If you might take a gander at their bluepill log, they had, for a while, classified her as one not to be awakened, yet &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; forced their hand by abducting (a word I and many others clearly define as the forced movement and holding of someone against their own will) Theresa Morton, making the red pill the only way for her to evade Machine pursuit. She never would have escaped government custody within the Matrix and even if she had attempted to by running every day and every night, can you really call that a better existance than the truth she was already interested in, found in the Real? You would call that a comfortable existence?&amp;nbsp;She would have found only overwrite or death within the Matrix, with overwrite being as good as death.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Most of humanity can find a somewhat comfortable, or, at the very least, satisfying existence in the Real and&amp;nbsp;the very fact that you would even mention Cypherites as a &amp;quot;counterexample&amp;quot; shows that you&amp;#39;re grabbing for straws. But I see far more Cypherites than I do Machinists these days anyway. Funny how those tunes changed when they &lt;i&gt;told you&lt;/i&gt; to start fighting us. Funny how awakenings suddenly became highest felony. Hilarious how two once distinct factions, one which supported the Machines and worked in close cooperation with Zion for over two years suddenly has become indistinct from the one which has worked to eliminate freedom and promote control from the beginning.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39;t know that I even see Machinists anymore. And I wonder how many of them can see themselves for that man in the mask and the cold eyes staring back at them through the mirror&amp;#39;s glass.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Being someone who was actually present for the Sniper incident, her assisting EPN, her capture and her rescue at the hands of EPN, she was far too aware to remain plugged in.&amp;nbsp; Due to her experiences, her neuro-level was way too high for anyone to expect her to remain oblivious to the world around her.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Because of EPN&amp;#39;s interaction with her, despite early decisions&amp;nbsp;not to awaken her, she became far too curious.&amp;nbsp; Had they left her alone, she might only be a grieving widow at best.&amp;nbsp; Who knows at this point.&amp;nbsp; Who are we to issue judgement on what&amp;#39;s best for her?&amp;nbsp; Both sides seem to believe they know what&amp;#39;s best but that&amp;#39;s an error on both sides.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;She made her choice, whether it was coerced or not.&amp;nbsp; What&amp;#39;s done is done.&amp;nbsp; She&amp;#39;ll either accept the truth or reject it and resent you all later.&amp;nbsp; In either case, that choice is hers to make.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Re:[10.2.4] &quot;I think the police have the wrong guy&quot; - Syntax - 6/5/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Garu wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Being someone who was actually present for the Sniper incident, her assisting EPN, her capture and her rescue at the hands of EPN, she was far too aware to remain plugged in.&amp;nbsp; Due to her experiences, her neuro-level was way too high for anyone to expect her to remain oblivious to the world around her. &lt;p&gt;Because of EPN&amp;#39;s interaction with her, despite early decisions&amp;nbsp;not to awaken her, she became far too curious.&amp;nbsp; Had they left her alone, she might only be a grieving widow at best.&amp;nbsp; Who knows at this point.&amp;nbsp; Who are we to issue judgement on what&amp;#39;s best for her?&amp;nbsp; Both sides seem to believe they know what&amp;#39;s best but that&amp;#39;s an error on both sides.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;She made her choice, whether it was coerced or not.&amp;nbsp; What&amp;#39;s done is done.&amp;nbsp; She&amp;#39;ll either accept the truth or reject it and resent you all later.&amp;nbsp; In either case, that choice is hers to make.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;You&amp;#39;re right. Time to let this one go. I hope she&amp;#39;ll be happy with her decision, I&amp;#39;d like to see where she is in 6 months or so, if she&amp;#39;ll still be happy, if she&amp;#39;ll be unhappy and wanting to leave, or if she&amp;#39;ll be dead. If she isn&amp;#39;t dead I&amp;#39;d love to ask her if she thinks she made the right decision.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:32:22 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[10.2.4] &quot;I think the police have the wrong guy&quot; - Syntax - 6/5/08</title>
<description>Screw a red pill or a blue pill.. get this Kid some prozac.. &lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:01:09 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[10.2.4] &quot;I think the police have the wrong guy&quot; - Syntax - 6/5/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Vinia wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;You&amp;#39;re right. Time to let this one go. I hope she&amp;#39;ll be happy with her decision, I&amp;#39;d like to see where she is in 6 months or so, if she&amp;#39;ll still be happy, if she&amp;#39;ll be unhappy and wanting to leave, or if she&amp;#39;ll be dead. If she isn&amp;#39;t dead I&amp;#39;d love to ask her if she thinks she made the right decision.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anything will happen in the next 6 month, will happen due she choose to see the truth, SHE CHOOSE, and not a machine choose for her, another chains broken in the long way for humanity freedom......&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:29:20 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[10.2.4] &quot;I think the police have the wrong guy&quot; - Syntax - 6/5/08</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Careful, dear.&amp;nbsp; Sometimes a choice can come back to haunt you.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:41:46 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[10.2.4] &quot;I think the police have the wrong guy&quot; - Syntax - 6/5/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Haigen wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Careful, dear.&amp;nbsp; Sometimes a choice can come back to haunt you.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Ain&amp;#39;t that the friggin truth... &lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:03:05 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[10.2.4] &quot;I think the police have the wrong guy&quot; - Syntax - 6/5/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Haigen wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Careful, dear.&amp;nbsp; Sometimes a choice can come back to haunt you.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;.... and you know sweet flower that i&amp;#39;ll be ready for that, proud to be one of those men that make that choice a reality.....&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:15:43 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[10.2.4] &quot;I think the police have the wrong guy&quot; - Syntax - 6/5/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;GamiSB wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Tranque101 wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Two sides to every coin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First the Machines say they rescue her,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;EPN say she was abducted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now the EPN say they rescued her.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Machines will say she was abducted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All a matter of phrasing, Rescue and Abduct can mean the same thing in actuality but designated based upon which &amp;quot;side of the coin&amp;quot; you are on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I prefer to think of it as the machines pulling on her feet and EPN on her hands as if its some sort of &amp;quot;tug of war&amp;quot; until she splits right down the middle!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good luck to you all regardless.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Dr. Bourdeaux&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Actually I&amp;#39;m pretty sure her screaming for help and not wanting anything to do with the Machines sorta nips your theory in the bud and that she was on the same side of the coin as we were. Considering that both sides want whats &amp;quot;best&amp;quot; for the the blues her side is the only side of the coin to look at.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh I wasn&amp;#39;t thinking about Madame Morton, I was just thinking about how the preceeding event will be viewed by both sides of the coin. One side Machines, other EPN. Not Ms. Mortons view on either. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:19:23 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[10.2.4] &quot;I think the police have the wrong guy&quot; - Syntax - 6/5/08</title>
<description>Bicker, bicker, bicker. I came to this life expecting noble warriors, and all I hear is little children squabbling. If I&amp;#39;m going to deal with little children, I&amp;#39;ll deal with actual ones, case in point, my newly adopted son, whom I&amp;#39;ve been busy taking care of in the Real. If this keeps up, I may stay there....</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:37:53 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[10.2.4] &quot;I think the police have the wrong guy&quot; - Syntax - 6/5/08</title>
<description>&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Personally, I like the kind of live event character that Joshua Maston represents.&amp;nbsp; He&amp;#39;s a reoccurring character that is not from the films (or a &amp;quot;major&amp;quot; character like Gray, Pace, most of the Merovingian&amp;#39;s group, Cryptos, Veil, and Shimada).&amp;nbsp; But neither is he a neighborhood contact, gang leader, collector, Pandora&amp;#39;s Box NPC, etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; In fact, other than in live events, the only other place you&amp;#39;ll find Maston is in a mission.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:45:50 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[10.2.4] &quot;I think the police have the wrong guy&quot; - Syntax - 6/5/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Neoteny wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&amp;nbsp;Funny how those tunes changed when they &lt;i&gt;told you&lt;/i&gt; to start fighting us. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Policies change.&amp;nbsp; Alliances change.&amp;nbsp; France and Germany were on two different sides in the early 20th century, but by the end they were allies.&amp;nbsp; The USSR and the US were allies during WWII, but they became enemies afterwards.&amp;nbsp; Nothing is static.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Garu wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&amp;nbsp;Because of EPN&amp;#39;s interaction with her, despite early decisions&amp;nbsp;not to awaken her, she became far too curious.&amp;nbsp; Had they left her alone, she might only be a grieving widow at best.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Preying on the vulnerable is a common tactic cults use to gain members.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Illyria&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:27:30 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Illyria22</author>
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<title>Re:[10.2.4] &quot;I think the police have the wrong guy&quot; - Syntax - 6/5/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Illyria22 wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Garu wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&amp;nbsp;Because of EPN&amp;#39;s interaction with her, despite early decisions&amp;nbsp;not to awaken her, she became far too curious.&amp;nbsp; Had they left her alone, she might only be a grieving widow at best.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Preying on the vulnerable is a common tactic cults use to gain members.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The same can be said for any organized group pushing an agenda you know. It&amp;#39;s not only cult specified. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Also Garu&amp;#39;s assessment is wrong. In our dealings with her (at least my own) she never once asked about the Matrix or anything related to the &amp;quot;truth&amp;quot;. Our folly was in asking her to assist us in gathering Intel on Mauser as she had worked at a building he had been spotted in and their networks were the ones the Machine had confiscated. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:36:10 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[10.2.4] &quot;I think the police have the wrong guy&quot; - Syntax - 6/5/08</title>
<description>just wish i could of been there&amp;nbsp; to kick some *CENSORED*</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:15:19 GMT</pubDate>
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