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<title>Re:Bad Crashes, Please Help!</title>
<description>So after cleaning out my PC case, my problem has been largely fixed.&amp;nbsp; Seems it was just a heat issue, but one problem remains.&amp;nbsp; I&amp;#39;m a PvPer, and my machine has developed a Mara allergy!&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; I swear, I can play anywhere else I want, but as soon as I set foot in Mara C (within 10 minutes, often much less) everything comes to a grinding halt.&amp;nbsp; What&amp;#39;s that about?&lt;br&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:53:51 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Wendigo</author>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;Wen, I am having almost the exact same problems: crashing during missions, crashing while at Mara C, etc.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I know it&amp;#39;s not a heat issue, because I usually run oc&amp;#39;d and monitor my thermals regularly.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It just started out of nowhere after the Feb 23rd restart.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;One question tho, who is your isp?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:37:02 GMT</pubDate>
<author>ShiXinFeng</author>
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<title>Re:Bad Crashes, Please Help!</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Current crashing and other issues around places like Mara C are to do with NoRepro&amp;#39;s (and the other devs) current major project which is fixing the downtown lag. They&amp;#39;re changing the way the servers allocate resources to areas and where the districts split their loads across servers. The result is if you don&amp;#39;t have the craziest of super-fast computers, some areas near hardlines are lagging some people out all of a sudden.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Glad the clean-out fixed the heat problem Wendigo.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Can I suggest that we try and take the PvP to Camon Central or Tabor East&amp;nbsp;for a bit to ease the load Tabor has an elevated road, low roofs and fences like Mara to keep things tactical. Camon has loads of space and low roofs.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;OR we could take it to international if you want to fight in more impressive surroundings. Heck even Westview has heaps of crumbling buildings that make it fun sniper teritory.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Downtown of course has the lag problems and overly keen NPCs (edgewater might work as another good location).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:16:48 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;Hello &lt;b&gt;phi&lt;/b&gt; , &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the assist as always. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wendigo&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;as he is someone I go to for questions I can&amp;#39;t add anything to what &lt;b&gt;phi &lt;/b&gt;has suggested.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:17:44 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>Hmm...well.&amp;nbsp; How to say this?&amp;nbsp; I&amp;#39;m back to full on crashing again.&amp;nbsp; 3 times in the last hour.&amp;nbsp; Wits&amp;#39; end is steadily approaching.&lt;br&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:48:08 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Wendigo</author>
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<description>&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Sounds like some of your RAM has developed a fault. (possibly as a result of the earlier overheating)&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;The way to fix it is to turn off your PC, take out 1 of the sticks of RAM and start up again.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;If all is well, there&amp;amp;#39;s the bad RAM (hang on to it though). If not, replace the RAM and take out another stick.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;If that doesn&amp;amp;#39;t work then both could be bad but you may have a more involved hardware problem.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Note: RAM is VERY sensitive to static-electricity damage, so make sure you have grounded yourself (touch the casing of your PC before touching the RAM ... every time) and when in doubt take the PC to the local repair shop. As numerous people on this forum have said in the past: If you do something wrong all you can do is get angry and pay for the damage, if the PC repair shop does damage they have to fix it for you.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 4 Mar 2007 20:06:58 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Hello &lt;b&gt;Wendigo&lt;/b&gt; , &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In addition to&amp;nbsp;removing the&amp;nbsp;ram as &lt;b&gt;phi&lt;/b&gt; sugggests, just on a hunch, uninstall AVG for a test and let me know is anything changes. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:01:01 GMT</pubDate>
<author>TSRBradG</author>
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<description>Uninstalled AVG.&amp;nbsp; Didn&amp;#39;t help.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; I downloaded a memory test utility and ran it overnight to test my RAM.&amp;nbsp; No errors came up.&amp;nbsp; I&amp;#39;m trying the thing with pulling the DIMMs now, but assuming that the test was accurate and my RAM isn&amp;#39;t bad, what else could it be?&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; The errors I get nowadays are quite odd.&amp;nbsp; The game will run fine for 30 minutes, or even an hour, but eventually, either while I&amp;#39;m just randomly running around or if I try to use a hardline to teleport or am forced to reconstruct I get a tasty blue screen of death.&amp;nbsp; It says it&amp;#39;s caused by my video card driver attempting to write to read-only memory.&amp;nbsp; Dubya Tee Eff?&lt;br&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 06:33:55 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Wendigo</author>
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<description>Update: I&amp;#39;ve tried the DIMM swapping thing with dubious results.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; The first time, I crashed the same way I have been, this time attempting to access a construct.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; On the second pass, I locked up jacking in from the Hardline.&amp;nbsp; No BSOD, the game just became totally unresponsive.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; I&amp;#39;m very confused and I&amp;#39;m starting to go through MxO withdrawal.&amp;nbsp; Could BOTH sticks really be bad even though they pass every test I can find to run them through?&lt;br&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 07:55:24 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Wendigo</author>
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<description>You know, amidst the hardware talent that runs rampant in these forums, I feel almost silly trying to help out, but here I go anyways.&amp;nbsp; Its a long shot, but there is an old shool trick you can try if the problem is indeed to do with your RAM.&amp;nbsp; Though this will probably not yeild you much of a result at all, you may be having a contact problem, if the RAM itself seemes intact (no burn marks or scoring) then the contacts may be gummed up, the best way I know of to clean them up is to run a pencil eraser over the contact strips (the little brass/copper keys that fit into the RAM slots).&amp;nbsp; Not that I expect that to actually help you out, but I didn&amp;#39;t see it mentioned so I thought I&amp;#39;d throw it out there.&amp;nbsp; Sometimes all a machine needs is a thorough cleaning (though likely that is no the source of your issue).&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; On a much more likely note, I have in the past worked on machines that have had the same shady results from RAM tests.&amp;nbsp; Though I&amp;#39;ve only seen it in laptops, one or more of the RAM sticks may be bad, even if they pass the tests, unfortunately the tests themselves sometimes (depending on the tests and the situations) check for different things to test the RAM&amp;#39;s functional operation.&amp;nbsp; Best bet, is if you have a spare machine lying around with enough RAM in it to play MxO you might try swapping it out and testing the game then.&amp;nbsp; There is also a possible, however highly unlikely, chance that the RAM sockets on your mother board have a problem...but that is pretty unlikely I would think.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; **NOTE**&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Before ever attempting to even touch anything inside your machine remember to discharge any static electricity you might have on you, a simple way to do this is to simply keep in contact with the metal frame of your machine though that can be tricky if you have to use both hands or maneuver yourself oddly to get at the machine. &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; **NOTE**</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 09:08:56 GMT</pubDate>
<author>TheEx</author>
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<description>Could possibly be the case, RAM testing I haven&amp;#39;t gone into to much so will have to pass on giving a definitive answer.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; One other random thing to try, although I very much doubt it will make any difference, but will be interesting to see in any case but I suspect Phi/BradG are going down the right route. If you load dxdiag up and click on the sound tab and try lowering the hardware acceleration to none and load the game and test that. If you can play without crashes, try increasing it to low an test that and repeat to see if it makes any difference. If of course it makes no difference at all, then just put it back up to full and hopefully wait for the next response from BradG/Phi.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Jeffers&lt;br&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:13:43 GMT</pubDate>
<author>jeffers</author>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;Just when I thought things couldn&amp;#39;t get any worse...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;I was having a bit of success with my RAM swapping project; I had gotten the game to run (albeit with monstrous lag) with one of my two 512 MB memory sticks in.&amp;nbsp; Though my system locked up at jack in a couple of times, I hadn&amp;#39;t experienced any of the BSOD crashes I was getting before.&amp;nbsp; I was strolling along headed for a hardline, when suddenly BSOD.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Upon reboot, I now get the message &amp;quot;Loading PBR for descriptor 2...done&amp;quot; then on the next line &amp;quot;Bad PBR&amp;quot;.&amp;nbsp; I know enough about computers to know this is really bad.&amp;nbsp; Ive run all of the diagnostics from the Dell utility Partition, and everything passes, but I can&amp;#39;t get the machine to boot.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;HELP!!!!!!!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:03:13 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Wendigo</author>
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<description>Looks that it might need you to restore your computer and losing all your data.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Firstly though, just make sure that you have reseated all the RAM correctly in your computer again. &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Otherwise, I&amp;#39;d take a look at the notes &lt;a href=&quot;http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/dsn/en/document?c=us&amp;amp;docid=FA000ACDE3324D22E030030ABD622013&amp;amp;journalid=0C17EF2FD0D811DBB8435DA31373DDCE&amp;amp;l=en&amp;amp;s=gen#en#us&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; unless Phi or BradG or anyone else has any other suggestions.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Jeffers&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:30:09 GMT</pubDate>
<author>jeffers</author>
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<description>A pox on Dell and all their kin!&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; I&amp;#39;ve got the PBR thing fixed, but I&amp;#39;m so freakin&amp;#39; scared to even try MxO again.&amp;nbsp; There&amp;#39;s no chance of me missing the anniversary event, so what else can I do without risking total failure again?&lt;br&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:11:55 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Wendigo</author>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;PBR errors = Can&amp;#39;t load Primary Boot Record&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bad news. You want to replace your RAM and HDD ASAP as the RAM is faulty and the HDD is egtting boot sector errors. It might be time to consider that upgrade.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:17:54 GMT</pubDate>
<author>phi</author>
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<description>New RAM and HDD are here! &lt;img src=&quot;/mxo/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;SMILEY&quot; /&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Two crashes in the last hour! &lt;img src=&quot;/mxo/images/smilies/c30b4198e0907b23b8246bdd52aa1c3c.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;SMILEY&quot; /&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Pretty stumped, please help me.&amp;nbsp; I&amp;#39;ll repost my diag info in a bit.&lt;br&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 03:09:53 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Wendigo</author>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;Wendigo wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;New RAM and HDD are here! &lt;img src=&quot;/mxo/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;SMILEY&quot; /&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Two crashes in the last hour! &lt;img src=&quot;/mxo/images/smilies/c30b4198e0907b23b8246bdd52aa1c3c.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;SMILEY&quot; /&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Pretty stumped, please help me.&amp;nbsp; I&amp;#39;ll repost my diag info in a bit.&lt;br&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;hmm yeah i was already wondering where you went =\&lt;br&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 03:23:03 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>It seems the crashes are getting more consistent at least.&amp;nbsp; Let&amp;#39;s narrow this down.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; It always seems to be after I&amp;#39;ve been in-game for a short period of time (10-15 minutes).&amp;nbsp; &lt;br&gt; The most frequent cause is attempting to use a hardline or an Archivist.&lt;br&gt; The process is always the same: First the sound makes a weird crackling noise, then goes into a loop of whatever sound it was.&amp;nbsp; The screen then goes black, and comes back as a BSOD.&amp;nbsp; The error message is that an attempt was made to write to read-only memory.&amp;nbsp; The guilty party is nv4_disp.dll - my video card driver.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; So we know it&amp;#39;s not bad hardware now, so what the hell is going on?&amp;nbsp; Remember, I didn&amp;#39;t change anything when all of this started, I just went from being able to play for as long as I want, to total repeated failure.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Here are the updated spec files: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.filefactory.com/file/959eeb/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSINFO&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.filefactory.com/file/c84485/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DXDIAG&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 03:34:37 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Wendigo</author>
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<description>I&amp;#39;m not sure what else to suggest, it&amp;#39;s stumping me completely.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Had another dive through the Dell website for your computer and notice there&amp;#39;s an updated driver for your sound card on it, but then there&amp;#39;s a more upto date version on the creative website also.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Maybe download those and give them a shot see if they make any difference, I&amp;#39;ll keep thinking though.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Jeffers&lt;br&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:08:40 GMT</pubDate>
<author>jeffers</author>
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<description>Old drivers FTW!!!&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; I pulled out the oldest video card driver I could find and just enjoyed my first crash-free MxO experience in months.&amp;nbsp; Thanks to all who chimed in to help!&lt;br&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:27:39 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Wendigo</author>
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