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<title>Re:Hyper Jumping &gt; Backpeddling?</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;My general rule of thumb for this issue is to always move toward my enemy and never away. This makes PvP REEAAL easy because I just hold down the &amp;quot;w&amp;quot; key and never press the &amp;quot;s&amp;quot; key, &amp;quot;alt&amp;quot; key, or the space bar. =)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In my opinion; the objective of a war is to survive, the objective of &lt;i&gt;PVP&lt;/i&gt; is to fight to the death and then recon. Running/HJing away is boring; and if you do either then you have&amp;nbsp;already lost.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are exceptions of course; such as when I run/HJ to chase some wimp who ran/HJed away. Sometimes this creates the illusion that I am running/HJing away because the person I am chasing is running/HJing away even though they and their buddies out number me 3 (or lmfao...10) to 1.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:16:01 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Haxadec</author>
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<title>Re:Hyper Jumping &gt; Backpeddling?</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Haxadec wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;In my opinion; the objective of a war is to survive, the objective of &lt;i&gt;PVP&lt;/i&gt; is to fight to the death and then recon. Running/HJing away is boring; and if you do either then you have&amp;nbsp;already lost.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Maybe but some would prefer to not have the DE for five mins or whatever. So prefer to preserve their life, then return at full health minus no DE&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 04:03:48 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Havocide</author>
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<title>Re:Hyper Jumping &gt; Backpeddling?</title>
<description>Only to jump away again, the cycle continues until the numbers favour them.</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 05:13:18 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Yasamuu</author>
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<title>Re:Hyper Jumping &gt; Backpeddling?</title>
<description>I don&amp;#39;t mind the people that jump away or run away for a short time out of the PVP radius, either to put a disguise on or set up a snipe, etc.. it&amp;#39;s the ones that jump and jump and jump as far as possible, clearly backing away from the fight that are frustrating!</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:17:20 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Sphairo</author>
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<title>Re:Hyper Jumping &gt; Backpeddling?</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;People get mad at hyperjumping because they lost a potential kill. It&amp;#39;s the same with people running away with HS on.&amp;nbsp; I personally don&amp;#39;t have a problem with that, because you can always catch up. It&amp;#39;s the people that hardline to the loading area or some other random hardline. The backpeddeling is an exploit and should be reported if seen. People that usually cry over hyper jumping are the ones that don&amp;#39;t have it loaded, have the zerg, or they are too lazy to chase you. The people that never hyperjump, they just play the game strictly for pvp and will load/use hyperjump on the occasion that they decide to participate in an L.E. . People that don&amp;#39;t load hyperjump do it for the 3 extra points they get or they have beta jump.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 01:55:04 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Grace of Darkness</author>
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<title>Re:Hyper Jumping &gt; Backpeddling?</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Grace of Darkness wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;People get mad at hyperjumping because they lost a potential kill. It&amp;#39;s the same with people running away with HS on.&amp;nbsp; I personally don&amp;#39;t have a problem with that, because you can always catch up. It&amp;#39;s the people that hardline to the loading area or some other random hardline. The backpeddeling is an exploit and should be reported if seen. People that usually cry over hyper jumping are the ones that don&amp;#39;t have it loaded, have the zerg, or they are too lazy to chase you. The people that never hyperjump, they just play the game strictly for pvp and will load/use hyperjump on the occasion that they decide to participate in an L.E. . People that don&amp;#39;t load hyperjump do it for the 3 extra points they get or they have beta jump.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;How is backpeddling an Exploit?&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:03:20 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Marias</author>
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<title>Re:Hyper Jumping &gt; Backpeddling?</title>
<description>Only reason I have hyperjump loaded is to loa hyper speed up because people run away all the time. &amp;gt;.&amp;lt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 05:56:48 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Sphairo</author>
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<title>Re:Hyper Jumping &gt; Backpeddling?</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Trayen1 wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Grace of Darkness wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;People get mad at hyperjumping because they lost a potential kill. It&amp;#39;s the same with people running away with HS on.&amp;nbsp; I personally don&amp;#39;t have a problem with that, because you can always catch up. It&amp;#39;s the people that hardline to the loading area or some other random hardline. The backpeddeling is an exploit and should be reported if seen. People that usually cry over hyper jumping are the ones that don&amp;#39;t have it loaded, have the zerg, or they are too lazy to chase you. The people that never hyperjump, they just play the game strictly for pvp and will load/use hyperjump on the occasion that they decide to participate in an L.E. . People that don&amp;#39;t load hyperjump do it for the 3 extra points they get or they have beta jump.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;How is backpeddling an Exploit?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&amp;#39;s not part of the system design for that ability. It&amp;#39;s the same thing as the switch tactic exploit. You are not supposed to be able use hyper jump while in mid-air, that&amp;#39;s why sometimes backpeddling works and sometimes it doesn&amp;#39;t. It&amp;#39;s used as a tatic to get an unfair advantage over you opponent. I&amp;#39;ve seen it happen in cr1 as well (this was also discussed back then), a person jumps to get away and someone chases after them. Well the person chasing them ia following them while they fly through the air, you backpeddle and suddenly your behind them and able to go the other way.</description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:18:02 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Grace of Darkness</author>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;GamiSB wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Something that always confused me when it came to pvp and people complaning about hyper jump was that they never talk about backpeddling or running away. There almost the same thing really&amp;nbsp;and sometimes running can be faster then a HJ but you never see any threads with people asking to nerf Hyper Speed. So figured I&amp;#39;d ask why that is.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What&amp;nbsp;makes Hyperjumping more of&amp;nbsp;a pvp taboo then running away?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(please keep it civil)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I get complained about running when my load doesn&amp;#39;t even use HJ. I try not to run across districts, but you never know. Sometimes they get spaced out from chasing you can then you can beat them easy 1v1. It&amp;#39;s all a matter of standards, really.</description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:00:05 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Ballak</author>
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<title>Re:Hyper Jumping &gt; Backpeddling?</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;There will always be complaints but why fault someone for wishing to preserve their own life?&amp;nbsp; I fight against zergs a lot so why would I be obligated to make it easy on them? &lt;img src=&quot;/mxo/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;SMILEY&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I guess HJing is deemed worse because at least with running they can catch up, break shield and gank.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 05:30:11 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Garu</author>
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<title>Re:Hyper Jumping &gt; Backpeddling?</title>
<description>Those who fight my hacker have probly come to notice that half my debuffs immobilise, stun or slow you in some way. No HJ problems for me, and if they do jump away it&amp;#39;s my own fault for letting them get away. Besides, that&amp;#39;s one less person to fight and half the effort taken to dispatch them.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 06:51:46 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Pylat</author>
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<title>Re:Hyper Jumping &gt; Backpeddling?</title>
<description>Grace; The term &amp;#39;backpedaling&amp;#39; in this thread refers to running away from an opponent, not the practice of reversing a hyperjump.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:02:46 GMT</pubDate>
<author>GypsyJuggler</author>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;GypsyJuggler wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Grace; The term &amp;#39;backpedaling&amp;#39; in this thread refers to running away from an opponent, not the practice of reversing a hyperjump.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;That weird I thought the title was &amp;quot;backpeddling&amp;quot; hmmm, my bad I guess...&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:17:39 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Grace of Darkness</author>
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<title>Re:Hyper Jumping &gt; Backpeddling?</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;nah, just my amazing skillz at typeos =P&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:52:28 GMT</pubDate>
<author>GamiSB</author>
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<title>Re:Hyper Jumping &gt; Backpeddling?</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Grace of Darkness wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;GypsyJuggler wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Grace; The term &amp;#39;backpedaling&amp;#39; in this thread refers to running away from an opponent, not the practice of reversing a hyperjump.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;That weird I thought the title was &amp;quot;backpeddling&amp;quot; hmmm, my bad I guess...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yeah, I was referring to just running backwards. I suppose that I can understand why the Hyper Jump technique mentioned would be considered an Exploit, but unless you&amp;#39;re doing it at the peak of your jump, it shouldn&amp;#39;t be much of an issue. At that point, you just have less distance to run to catch up to them.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 1 Oct 2007 00:47:53 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Marias</author>
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<title>Re:Hyper Jumping &gt; Backpeddling?</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Grace of Darkness wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;GypsyJuggler wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Grace; The term &amp;#39;backpedaling&amp;#39; in this thread refers to running away from an opponent, not the practice of reversing a hyperjump.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;That weird I thought the title was &amp;quot;backpeddling&amp;quot; hmmm, my bad I guess...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yes, I used the spelling I did partly because I&amp;#39;m a cyclist and partly because &amp;#39;peddle&amp;#39; means &amp;#39;to sell from door to door&amp;#39;.&amp;nbsp; According to my Collins dictionary we should use the term &amp;#39;back-pedal&amp;#39; which means &amp;#39;to retract&amp;#39; (or &amp;#39;to modify a previous opinion&amp;#39;).&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;Edited to remove an unwanted smiley.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 1 Oct 2007 01:48:54 GMT</pubDate>
<author>GypsyJuggler</author>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;Sphairo wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I don&amp;#39;t mind the people that jump away or run away for a short time out of the PVP radius, either to put a disguise on or set up a snipe, etc.. it&amp;#39;s the ones that jump and jump and jump as far as possible, clearly backing away from the fight that are frustrating!&lt;/blockquote&gt;Well, you minded me and after a short /tell war you faked a message and threatened me with a CCR. Ah well, and all that commotion only because I jumped up 2 meters to be save from your hacks, so&amp;nbsp;I&amp;nbsp;could&amp;nbsp;snipe while another guy keept you busy in IL. And there really was no need to fake messages in area chat too, ah well. What&amp;#39;s done is done, eh?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyways, I don&amp;#39;t run from Mara C to Stamos NW without even anybody following. Well, I know guys that did and still do. If I &amp;quot;backpedale&amp;quot; or HJ, it&amp;#39;s in the immediate vincity&amp;nbsp;(I&amp;#39;ll&amp;nbsp;never&amp;nbsp;be&amp;nbsp;far&amp;nbsp;away&amp;nbsp;if&amp;nbsp;that&amp;nbsp;happens) of the PvP area. Most guys give up after 30 secs anyways, so no need to run or HJ so far. And I don&amp;#39;t use the crtl+space HJ, always the manual one. It takes time (gives others chance to catch up and also, sometimes the manual HJ is &amp;quot;slower&amp;quot; so people can still root me in midair&amp;nbsp;(if&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;root&amp;nbsp;hold&amp;nbsp;long&amp;nbsp;enough&amp;nbsp;people&amp;nbsp;can&amp;nbsp;catch&amp;nbsp;up&amp;nbsp;even&amp;nbsp;more) or deal damage, fair is fair), and gets me where I want to :/&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Backpeddling + Jump Abuse&amp;nbsp;(in&amp;nbsp;case&amp;nbsp;people&amp;nbsp;catch&amp;nbsp;up&amp;nbsp;so&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;shield&amp;nbsp;won&amp;#39;t&amp;nbsp;break and if it does -&amp;gt&lt;img src=&quot;/mxo/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;SMILEY&quot; /&gt; + &amp;#39;crtl+space HJ&amp;#39; = ridiciculous&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So in conclusion, if you overdo it, both are equally bad. Technically, backpedaling &amp;gt; HJ, though.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 3 Oct 2007 11:03:27 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>I may give a tutorial on how to use HJ along with tactics, timers, evade shield, and backpedaling to effectively single out and kill members of the zerg. Of course then I&amp;#39;ll see those tactics used against me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&amp;#39;s not that difficult to single out and destroy those who HJ away from you. The only problem with backpedaling is if their movement speed is greater than your own. Chances are as soon as the shield comes down they&amp;#39;re going to resort to hyperjump anyways.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 3 Oct 2007 20:17:53 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Zerotolerance</author>
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<description>agreed, runngin away to only draw them out. but for some people i&amp;#39;ve seen to try and break evade and fail that just hj away is annoying haha. imo that just gives me a reason to greif you bad.</description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 4 Nov 2007 22:57:52 GMT</pubDate>
<author>SuperStarx</author>
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<description>For some people it&apos;s more fun to annoy people rather than getting CQ. And what&apos;s wrong with hyperjump? On vector that might allow you to spare alot of time as you don&apos;t need to run back after death.</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 11:23:29 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Simulation</author>
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