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<title>Re:[9.3.5] &quot;He wouldn&apos;t just kill her like that&quot; - Vector - 4/2/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Triface wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;hahahaha at zion&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;*Silently chuckles*&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You actually think this has&amp;nbsp; to do with just Z10N?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;I think your &amp;quot;haha&amp;#39;s&amp;quot; are a bit premature, if you recall a little word called &amp;quot;balance&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;*Takes a small bite of his Oracle cookie and moves on.*&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 5 Apr 2008 10:36:28 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[9.3.5] &quot;He wouldn&apos;t just kill her like that&quot; - Vector - 4/2/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Triface wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;what is the program?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;I think it was a biological interface.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 5 Apr 2008 10:39:54 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[9.3.5] &quot;He wouldn&apos;t just kill her like that&quot; - Vector - 4/2/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Coro wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;nubious81 wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;MxO_Neopill wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;That just all went down a little to easy. I am finding it nearly impossible to believe she is actually gone. Perhaps she has found a way to be untracable in the system, or has temporarily uploaded herself into an implanted human interface.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nonetheless, I highly doubt shes gone.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;agreed my theory like ive said before on this situation those 2 disks i belive are the keys the only thing is i wonder how long before the cyphs and epn can both agree to see what these disks can do together.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I know that the &amp;quot;code of The One&amp;quot; theory (or some connection to Neo) is currently gaining support, but I thought I would come back to these earlier points. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s well established that the power of The Oracle lies in her eyes: there being two of them, obviously. There are also two disks recently handed out by The Oracle, as others have mentioned. Coincidence?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;o: you may be on to something there....perhaps why she didnt know or couldnt see the impending death...she knew in that giving it away...she was eventually going to get cought out. &lt;img src=&quot;/mxo/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;SMILEY&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;meh i dont even wanty to ponder these thoughts :/&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 5 Apr 2008 13:17:31 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[9.3.5] &quot;He wouldn&apos;t just kill her like that&quot; - Vector - 4/2/08</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Nah she isn&amp;#39;t gone, I have yet to take her eyes from her...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(and ya, props to the 2 lowbie zions that were there, their honest ignorance played very well in this dialogue)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 6 Apr 2008 05:55:39 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>[9.3.5] &quot;He wouldn&apos;t just kill her like that&quot; - Vector - 4/2/08</title>
<description>She will be missed. The Oracle was like a grandmother to those of us that had a chance to know her. She was humorous and easy to love, but she was not a fool. Remember she wasn&apos;t ever one to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth and I can guarantee here that she was doing more of the &quot;only what you needed to hear&quot; type of scenario. I can only hope she knows what she is doing.
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&lt;br&gt; Until we meet again Oracle.</description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 6 Apr 2008 06:15:37 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[9.3.5] &quot;He wouldn&apos;t just kill her like that&quot; - Vector - 4/2/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;MetaLogic wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;If that&amp;#39;s true then why is he still with us?&amp;nbsp; There are three Cryptos.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1.&amp;nbsp; The&amp;nbsp; Cryptos that wanted to use Nukes inside the Simulation&lt;br /&gt;2.&amp;nbsp; The over-written machine controlled Cryptos&lt;br /&gt;3.&amp;nbsp; A perfect mesh of man and program Cryptos&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;((Actually there are 4.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. The sin repenting Cryptos teaming up with Popper after the Seraph incident.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh wait, that&amp;#39;d be the original storyline, my bad.))&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 6 Apr 2008 07:06:05 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[9.3.5] &quot;He wouldn&apos;t just kill her like that&quot; - Vector - 4/2/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;GoDGiVeR wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;MetaLogic wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;If that&amp;#39;s true then why is he still with us?&amp;nbsp; There are three Cryptos.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1.&amp;nbsp; The&amp;nbsp; Cryptos that wanted to use Nukes inside the Simulation&lt;br /&gt;2.&amp;nbsp; The over-written machine controlled Cryptos&lt;br /&gt;3.&amp;nbsp; A perfect mesh of man and program Cryptos&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;((Actually there are 4.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. The sin repenting Cryptos teaming up with Popper after the Seraph incident.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh wait, that&amp;#39;d be the original storyline, my bad.))&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;((I wish that did happen, that would leave Veil in control of the Cypherites with no one to hold her back, that would&amp;#39;ve been awesome!))&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 6 Apr 2008 07:24:55 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>He says he&apos;s lived this way for centuries, meaning he is one of the very first exiles, that has somehow avoided the Matrix being rebooted. A potential mixed with a machine file perhaps?</description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 6 Apr 2008 18:04:32 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>[9.3.5] &quot;He wouldn&apos;t just kill her like that&quot; - Vector - 4/2/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Panderai wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;He says he&amp;#39;s lived this way for centuries, meaning he is one of the very first exiles, that has somehow avoided the Matrix being rebooted. A potential mixed with a machine file perhaps?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He&amp;#39;s freeborn.</description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 6 Apr 2008 18:16:07 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[9.3.5] &quot;He wouldn&apos;t just kill her like that&quot; - Vector - 4/2/08</title>
<description>Never heard the term before, but I assume it means born outside of the Matrix, and if so, how can he be causing this trouble?</description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 6 Apr 2008 18:31:33 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;Panderai wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Never heard the term before, but I assume it means born outside of the Matrix, and if so, how can he be causing this trouble?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Means he can&amp;#39;t jack into the Matrix since he has no plug holes on his body.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 6 Apr 2008 18:39:27 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[9.3.5] &quot;He wouldn&apos;t just kill her like that&quot; - Vector - 4/2/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Panderai wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Never heard the term before, but I assume it means born outside of the Matrix, and if so, how can he be causing this trouble?&lt;/blockquote&gt;That&amp;#39;s the mystery of it. But yes &amp;quot;freeborn&amp;quot; does mean born outside of the Matrix.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 6 Apr 2008 19:31:15 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[9.3.5] &quot;He wouldn&apos;t just kill her like that&quot; - Vector - 4/2/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;MetaLogic wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;GoDGiVeR wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;MetaLogic wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;If that&amp;#39;s true then why is he still with us?&amp;nbsp; There are three Cryptos.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1.&amp;nbsp; The&amp;nbsp; Cryptos that wanted to use Nukes inside the Simulation&lt;br /&gt;2.&amp;nbsp; The over-written machine controlled Cryptos&lt;br /&gt;3.&amp;nbsp; A perfect mesh of man and program Cryptos&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;((Actually there are 4.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. The sin repenting Cryptos teaming up with Popper after the Seraph incident.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh wait, that&amp;#39;d be the original storyline, my bad.))&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;((I wish that did happen, that would leave Veil in control of the Cypherites with no one to hold her back, that would&amp;#39;ve been awesome!))&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;((Who would spank her then?? Besides she is gonna get herself killed.))&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 6 Apr 2008 19:57:54 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[9.3.5] &quot;He wouldn&apos;t just kill her like that&quot; - Vector - 4/2/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;GamiSB wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Panderai wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Never heard the term before, but I assume it means born outside of the Matrix, and if so, how can he be causing this trouble?&lt;/blockquote&gt;That&amp;#39;s the mystery of it. But yes &amp;quot;freeborn&amp;quot; does mean born outside of the Matrix.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Could he be in control of someone that is inside the Matrix? Or perhaps this whole thing was a lie and he was a machine all along, and he wouldn&amp;#39;t go back to the source?Or perhaps&amp;nbsp;you are interpereting his words wrong. &amp;quot;I&amp;#39;ve been like this for centuries&amp;quot; Perhaps he avoided was a machine programme that slipped through the Architehts fingers, much like Smith did.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We don&amp;#39;t have any proof that he is freeborn.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 7 Apr 2008 05:50:28 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[9.3.5] &quot;He wouldn&apos;t just kill her like that&quot; - Vector - 4/2/08</title>
<description>We have as much proof of him being freeborn as we have of anything else. Agent Gray said he was freeborn, so we just have to take that as read for now. And it fits perfectly with (( Mystery Man (men?) in the cinematics and )) the mysterious independent human colony mentioned in Hypatia&amp;#39;s files.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 7 Apr 2008 05:59:28 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>Is there a plausible way that freeborns could survive for centuries, and jack into the matrix?
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&lt;br&gt; And The Machines may have said he is freeborn so we believe him, and they gain more control over the situation?</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 7 Apr 2008 06:18:44 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[9.3.5] &quot;He wouldn&apos;t just kill her like that&quot; - Vector - 4/2/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Procurator wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;We have as much proof of him being freeborn as we have of anything else. Agent Gray said he was freeborn, so we just have to take that as read for now. And it fits perfectly with (( Mystery Man (men?) in the cinematics and )) the mysterious independent human colony mentioned in Hypatia&amp;#39;s files.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #0066ff;&quot;&gt;Can&amp;#39;t trust anything a Machine says.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My own theory: There&amp;#39;s no colony. Only a limited number&lt;/span&gt; (*cough* &lt;span style=&quot;color: #0066ff;&quot;&gt;six or seven&lt;/span&gt; *cough*) &lt;span style=&quot;color: #0066ff;&quot;&gt;of &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;special&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; people ejected from the Matrix.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Think about it: How else can a human live for much longer past their expiration date? There has to be something in them that&amp;#39;s changed, to make them less human and more machine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 7 Apr 2008 06:35:57 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[9.3.5] &quot;He wouldn&apos;t just kill her like that&quot; - Vector - 4/2/08</title>
<description>Or he was reinserted back into the Matrix as an Agent for the Machines, or some sort of programme, that had the feelings of a human, yet the powers of a Machine programme, and he broke free of the control not so long ago, and now is looking for some sort of programme that will &amp;quot;free his mind&amp;quot;?</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 7 Apr 2008 06:43:51 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[9.3.5] &quot;He wouldn&apos;t just kill her like that&quot; - Vector - 4/2/08</title>
<description>Or maybe some humans from before the war were placed on uber life support.&amp;nbsp; Hey, it could happen.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 7 Apr 2008 14:25:54 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[9.3.5] &quot;He wouldn&apos;t just kill her like that&quot; - Vector - 4/2/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Panderai wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Or he was reinserted back into the Matrix as an Agent for the Machines, or some sort of programme, that had the feelings of a human, yet the powers of a Machine programme, and he broke free of the control not so long ago, and now is looking for some sort of programme that will &amp;quot;free his mind&amp;quot;?&lt;/blockquote&gt;That&amp;#39;s my thinking. Human the machines experimented on, placed him in some mechanical disgusting form but he still.. lived on somehow.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:37:50 GMT</pubDate>
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