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<title>Re:/Smoke</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;MatrixRefugee wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Well, considering the MPAA just added some new criteria to movie ratings, putting smoking on the list of things that would raise the rating (yeah, it&amp;#39;s a dumb resolution: I guess that means that all those 1940s movies with stylish people smoking cigarettes are now R-rated. Considering the sheer number of cigarettes Keanu had to smke, what the yell would the rating be on &amp;quot;Constantine&amp;quot;? NC-17?), I would think that&amp;nbsp;the ESRB would have to do the same&amp;nbsp;./smoke emotes. It&amp;#39;s a&amp;nbsp;nifty idea, but it would just get shot down by the politically correctness and the healthy habits police.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt; That&amp;#39;s been around for quite a while, though. I actually had an &amp;quot;E&amp;quot; rated game that had an advisory that it contained &amp;quot;mild drug/alcohol/smoking usage&amp;quot; God forbid they crank this up to &amp;quot;M&amp;quot; for smoking, they could throw in all the blood and good words, instead of force-censoring live events where we see the word &amp;quot;assassin&amp;quot; turned into &amp;quot;******in&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But ZOMG smoking kills you, that&amp;#39;s immitatible! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Not if you have some good *CENSORED* common sense. And if you don&amp;#39;t - why, that&amp;#39;s just natural selection&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In closing, /smoke would be cool, but if we get an animator, it&amp;#39;s low on the list of what&amp;#39;s needed &lt;img src=&quot;/mxo/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;SMILEY&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:03:06 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Neoteny</author>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;MatrixRefugee wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Well, considering the MPAA just added some new criteria to movie ratings, putting smoking on the list of things that would raise the rating (yeah, it&amp;#39;s a dumb resolution: I guess that means that all those 1940s movies with stylish people smoking cigarettes are now R-rated. Considering the sheer number of cigarettes Keanu had to smke, what the yell would the rating be on &amp;quot;Constantine&amp;quot;? NC-17?), I would think that&amp;nbsp;the ESRB would have to do the same&amp;nbsp;./smoke emotes. It&amp;#39;s a&amp;nbsp;nifty idea, but it would just get shot down by the politically correctness and the healthy habits police.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #ffffff&quot;&gt;In &amp;quot;Constantine&amp;quot; the main character is dying of lung cancer. It&amp;#39;s more than politically correct.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 01:51:01 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Skill</author>
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<description>Also, image what the episodes of the X-Files featuring the Cigarette Smoking Man are going to be rated now.</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:36:34 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>There is no lung cancer....&lt;img src=&quot;/mxo/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;SMILEY&quot; /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:00:22 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;Tenshi wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;There is no lung cancer....&lt;img src=&quot;/mxo/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;SMILEY&quot; /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt; whats lung cancer ?</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:00:52 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;br&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: #ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Politically correct:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt; /suckitdown&lt;br&gt; /picknose&lt;br&gt; /dogsniff&lt;br&gt; /mood sexy&lt;br&gt; /russdance&lt;br&gt; /mimeelbow&lt;br&gt; merv cake&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Health conscious:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt; /drinkbottle&lt;br&gt; /takepill&lt;br&gt; /vomit&lt;br&gt; /crackknuckles&lt;br&gt; /crackneck&lt;br&gt; /mood drunk&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Not only should there be /smoke, but also /smokecigar.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; heh heh&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:29:46 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;LordInqubus wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: #ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Politically correct:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt; /suckitdown&lt;br&gt; /picknose&lt;br&gt; /dogsniff&lt;br&gt; /mood sexy&lt;br&gt; /russdance&lt;br&gt; /mimeelbow&lt;br&gt; merv cake&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;b&gt;Health conscious:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt; /drinkbottle&lt;br&gt; /takepill&lt;br&gt; /vomit&lt;br&gt; /crackknuckles&lt;br&gt; /crackneck&lt;br&gt; /mood drunk&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Not only should there be /smoke, but also /smokecigar.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; heh heh&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;you forgot /bong kind sir&lt;br&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:38:16 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>i think it would be possible. if you notice in the clubs there are ash trays with still smoking cigarettes in them. and form what i can tell, they are 3d cigs. how bout just /smoke and one pops into your mouth?&lt;br /&gt; </description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:26:30 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Mobyias</author>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;/smoke Already exists!&amp;nbsp; We see the Oracle in the cinematic smoking, and in theory that&amp;#39;s made using the in-game engine so clearly the animator has added it and it could easily be made available to players.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are too many valid points in this thread to quote.&amp;nbsp; Please give /smoke back to the people now.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I imagine the majority of our players are of age to smoke tobacco anyway.&amp;nbsp; Add some kind of I&amp;#39;m the parent no smoking check box on the credit card entry screen for those that are not 18&amp;nbsp;if you&amp;#39;re really worried about it.&amp;nbsp; It would mirror reality and all.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thank you&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;btw: Flintstones smoking is a hilarious video.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:37:34 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Huslah</author>
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<description>Heh... the Great Smoky One of Recursion could use this, so he doesn&amp;#39;t have to keep typing up custom emotes... So could my worse half, with her clove cigarettes...</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 00:55:44 GMT</pubDate>
<author>MatrixRefugee</author>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;Huslah wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;/smoke Already exists!&amp;nbsp; We see the Oracle in the cinematic smoking, and in theory that&amp;#39;s made using the in-game engine so clearly the animator has added it and it could easily be made available to players.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was under the impression that the cinematics where animated using the same engine but with different mechanics. I.E. each movement had to be programmed in which would mean that the smoking that the Oracle did isn&amp;#39;t an /emote command.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At least, that&amp;#39;s my impression of it. Which would mean the use of an animator to create the /smoke emote.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:37:39 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Croesis</author>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;Croesus wrote:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was under the impression that the cinematics where animated using the same engine but with different mechanics. I.E. each movement had to be programmed in which would mean that the smoking that the Oracle did isn&amp;#39;t an /emote command.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At least, that&amp;#39;s my impression of it. Which would mean the use of an animator to create the /smoke emote.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I get what you&amp;#39;re saying regarding it not being the use of an emote command.&amp;nbsp; I&amp;#39;m not an animator or 3D modelor so I can only guess at whats available to be used.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My guess is that the 3D model of the cigarette, including the part where it gets brighter as the Oracle puffs it, as well as the movement sequence where the Oracle raises her hand and smokes it have already been created in order to complete the chapter 1.2 cinematic.&amp;nbsp; I don&amp;#39;t know why they&amp;#39;d throw the&amp;nbsp;cigarette model and motion&amp;nbsp;sequence out.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m further speculating that the existing 3D model and animation could be triggered to play by using a /slash command just as all emotes work now.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:51:08 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Huslah</author>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;Huslah wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;I&amp;#39;m further speculating that the existing 3D model and animation could be triggered to play by using a /slash command just as all emotes work now.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hmm... possibly... depends on if the commands in animation software for the old cinematics are compatible with the game&amp;#39;s engine. The 3D model should still be there... &lt;br /&gt;It would make the game more lifelike (no smoking inside buildings... lol) but then would the implementation of this put SoE in a good light with the press? &lt;br /&gt;I have a visions of headlins saying &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&amp;#39;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;SoE encourages gamers to smoke...&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;#39; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;You know what the press are like! &lt;img src=&quot;/mxo/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;SMILEY&quot; width=&quot;15&quot; height=&quot;15&quot; /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:00:25 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Croesis</author>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, I would say if I can shoot people and throw knives in their foreheads inside a building I should be able to smoke.&amp;nbsp; Spawn an agent if I smoke in there for awhile or something.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;We need this for the RP.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We&amp;#39;ve got drug props, bomb props, anthrax props.&amp;nbsp; We don&amp;#39;t see headlines about promoting drug use and terrorism.&amp;nbsp; As mentioned earlier we&amp;#39;ve got /suicide and /vomit, yet there are no headlines about SOE encouraging players to commit suicide or become bullemic (sp?).&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I wonder if Walrus could talk to some big tobacco companies like Phillip Morris or R.J. Reynolds and see if they want to&amp;nbsp;use the in-game advertising or sponser a few animators and 3d people to make cinematics if we include more&amp;nbsp;Oracle and other characters smoking.&amp;nbsp; We already have cigarette&amp;nbsp;bluepill bill boards, how big a difference would this make?&amp;nbsp; They should talk to the same company that&amp;nbsp;probably paid for the Oracle to smoke in the movies.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 10:49:14 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Huslah</author>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;Huslah wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;We&amp;#39;ve got drug props, bomb props, anthrax props.&amp;nbsp; We don&amp;#39;t see headlines about promoting drug use and terrorism.&amp;nbsp; As mentioned earlier we&amp;#39;ve got /suicide and /vomit, yet there are no headlines about SOE encouraging players to commit suicide or become bullemic (sp?). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Well I won&amp;#39;t tell them if you don&amp;#39;t!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;Also that idea about spawning an Agent if smoking for too long in a building is class!&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 12:20:43 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Croesis</author>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;Croesus wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Well I won&amp;#39;t tell them if you don&amp;#39;t!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;Also that idea about spawning an Agent if smoking for too long in a building is class!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Cool, glad to hear another player is on board with the idea.&amp;nbsp; C&amp;#39;mon devs let&amp;#39;s see some support!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I was also thinking it could be a consumable that gives a buff\debuff.&amp;nbsp; It could add a few points to concentration, determination, and initiative, maybe increase inner strength a little for 600 seconds.&amp;nbsp; It could decrease movement speed a few percent and have a % chance to dmg (burn hole) one of your clothing slots and knock a few points off your health every time you used it.&amp;nbsp; When the buff part wears off it could have a second debuff that activates and decreases concentration and a few points inner strength for a 300 seconds.&amp;nbsp; Perhaps we could have different versions with different buff\debuff combos.&amp;nbsp; You could bum one off the Oracle that gives 25% inner strength regen for 600 seconds or something.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They just need to change out the cookie\pill\stake\tactic booster\holy water\silver bullet icon for a&amp;nbsp;cigarette icon and tie the smoking animation and cig model into it&amp;#39;s use.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:16:11 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Huslah</author>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;Huslah wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Croesus wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Well I won&amp;#39;t tell them if you don&amp;#39;t!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;Also that idea about spawning an Agent if smoking for too long in a building is class!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Cool, glad to hear another player is on board with the idea.&amp;nbsp; C&amp;#39;mon devs let&amp;#39;s see some support!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I was also thinking it could be a consumable that gives a buff\debuff.&amp;nbsp; It could add a few points to concentration, determination, and initiative, maybe increase inner strength a little for 600 seconds.&amp;nbsp; It could decrease movement speed a few percent and have a % chance to dmg (burn hole) one of your clothing slots and knock a few points off your health every time you used it.&amp;nbsp; When the buff part wears off it could have a second debuff that activates and decreases concentration and a few points inner strength for a 300 seconds.&amp;nbsp; Perhaps we could have different versions with different buff\debuff combos.&amp;nbsp; You could bum one off the Oracle that gives 25% inner strength regen for 600 seconds or something.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They just need to change out the cookie\pill\stake\tactic booster\holy water\silver bullet icon for a&amp;nbsp;cigarette icon and tie the smoking animation and cig model into it&amp;#39;s use.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;I&amp;#39;m on board with the /emote idea for realism. The buff/debuff, while sounding interesting they way you thought it out, is a bit much in my opinion. As an avid non-smoker I wouldn&amp;#39;t use it but I&amp;#39;m sure there are those who would use the emote. I do wonder though, why it is only the oracle who smokes. We know that physical damage in the simulation is manifested in the real, perhaps the Operatives don&amp;#39;t smoke as it will effect their health and effectiveness in and outside of the simulation.... It may be the reason why it&amp;#39;s not in the game...&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:45:16 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;Croesus wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Huslah wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Croesus wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Well I won&amp;#39;t tell them if you don&amp;#39;t!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;Also that idea about spawning an Agent if smoking for too long in a building is class!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Cool, glad to hear another player is on board with the idea.&amp;nbsp; C&amp;#39;mon devs let&amp;#39;s see some support!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I was also thinking it could be a consumable that gives a buff\debuff.&amp;nbsp; It could add a few points to concentration, determination, and initiative, maybe increase inner strength a little for 600 seconds.&amp;nbsp; It could decrease movement speed a few percent and have a % chance to dmg (burn hole) one of your clothing slots and knock a few points off your health every time you used it.&amp;nbsp; When the buff part wears off it could have a second debuff that activates and decreases concentration and a few points inner strength for a 300 seconds.&amp;nbsp; Perhaps we could have different versions with different buff\debuff combos.&amp;nbsp; You could bum one off the Oracle that gives 25% inner strength regen for 600 seconds or something.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They just need to change out the cookie\pill\stake\tactic booster\holy water\silver bullet icon for a&amp;nbsp;cigarette icon and tie the smoking animation and cig model into it&amp;#39;s use.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;I&amp;#39;m on board with the /emote idea for realism. The buff/debuff, while sounding interesting they way you thought it out, is a bit much in my opinion. As an avid non-smoker I wouldn&amp;#39;t use it but I&amp;#39;m sure there are those who would use the emote. I do wonder though, why it is only the oracle who smokes. We know that physical damage in the simulation is manifested in the real, perhaps the Operatives don&amp;#39;t smoke as it will effect their health and effectiveness in and outside of the simulation.... &lt;b&gt;It may be the reason why it&amp;#39;s not in the game...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Abortions too.</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:50:49 GMT</pubDate>
<author>TheShickle</author>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;Croesus wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I&amp;#39;m on board with the /emote idea for realism. The buff/debuff, while sounding interesting they way you thought it out, is a bit much in my opinion. As an avid non-smoker I wouldn&amp;#39;t use it but I&amp;#39;m sure there are those who would use the emote. I do wonder though, why it is only the oracle who smokes. We know that physical damage in the simulation is manifested in the real, perhaps the Operatives don&amp;#39;t smoke as it will effect their health and effectiveness in and outside of the simulation.... It may be the reason why it&amp;#39;s not in the game...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yeah the&amp;nbsp;consumable idea is too much development.&amp;nbsp; You&amp;#39;re right the emote would be all we need.&amp;nbsp; It&amp;#39;s mainly that it&amp;#39;s an integral part of the story and a matter of artistic expression.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think other characters did smoke in the films.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The&amp;nbsp;twins were smoking a hookah&amp;nbsp;in the Merv&amp;#39;s restaurant when we first see them in reloaded.&amp;nbsp; Cypher smokes a cigar while meeting with Agent Smith to discuss his insertion back into the power plant.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I also disagree that physical damage in the simulation from smoking&amp;nbsp;would be&amp;nbsp;manifested in the real.&amp;nbsp; Operatives &amp;quot;die&amp;quot; all the time.&amp;nbsp; A knife in the forehead or swift kick to the groin has got to be worse than enjoying a smoke to calm your nerves during war.&amp;nbsp; It wouldn&amp;#39;t make sense bullets and all those things wouldn&amp;#39;t be a problem in the real but smoking would.&amp;nbsp; That&amp;#39;d be like eating too much Merv cake makes you overweight in the real or being promiscuous gets a virus transmitted to you in the real.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:32:45 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Huslah</author>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;Huslah wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;I think other characters did smoke in the films.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The&amp;nbsp;twins were smoking a hookah&amp;nbsp;in the Merv&amp;#39;s restaurant when we first see them in reloaded.&amp;nbsp; Cypher smokes a cigar while meeting with Agent Smith to discuss his insertion back into the power plant.&amp;nbsp; &lt;p&gt;I also disagree that physical damage in the simulation from smoking&amp;nbsp;would be&amp;nbsp;manifested in the real.&amp;nbsp; Operatives &amp;quot;die&amp;quot; all the time.&amp;nbsp; A knife in the forehead or swift kick to the groin has got to be worse than enjoying a smoke to calm your nerves during war.&amp;nbsp; It wouldn&amp;#39;t make sense bullets and all those things wouldn&amp;#39;t be a problem in the real but smoking would.&amp;nbsp; That&amp;#39;d be like eating too much Merv cake makes you overweight in the real or being promiscuous gets a virus transmitted to you in the real.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hmmm... forgot about the twins and Cypher&amp;#39;s Cigar!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps you are right, I was thinking when Neo and Morpheus had their fight in the Dojo and Neo was bleeding in the real, it may be only the most intense pain that manifests itself in the real, but considering that mouse&amp;#39; body wasn&amp;#39;t riddled with bullet holes in the real when he died, it just may be blood pressure bursting blood veins in weaker areas (nose/mouth etc...)&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 02:25:37 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Croesis</author>
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