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<title>Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:[11.2.4] The Machines have surrounded the pods - Syntax - 10/9/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Neoteny wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;If he had it, he would&apos;ve ended up dead as they acted to retrieve it. &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;If not, I&apos;m sure they would&apos;ve done away with him as well.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;His only chance for survival was to be picked up by a Zion or EPN ship, but the Machines made sure that was impossible.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ah I see. Of course you know this for certain, or as certain as anyone who doesn&apos;t actually&amp;nbsp;have a clue&amp;nbsp;about what would actually happen.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Your statement is either full of ignorance or a feeble attempt at propaganda. If it comes down to it, any attempt at Zion and Machines working together to tackle the problem of Wright will&amp;nbsp;inevitably encounter barriers in the&amp;nbsp;form of people like you.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Again, just because &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; couldn&apos;t access the pods does not mean his death was certain.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 06:02:11 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:[11.2.4] The Machines have surrounded the pods - Syntax - 10/9/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Vinia wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Neoteny wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;If he had it, he would&apos;ve ended up dead as they acted to retrieve it. &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;If not, I&apos;m sure they would&apos;ve done away with him as well.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;His only chance for survival was to be picked up by a Zion or EPN ship, but the Machines made sure that was impossible.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ah I see. Of course you know this for certain, or as certain as anyone who doesn&apos;t actually&amp;nbsp;have a clue&amp;nbsp;about what would actually happen.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Your statement is either full of ignorance or a feeble attempt at propaganda. If it comes down to it, any attempt at Zion and Machines working together to tackle the problem of Wright will&amp;nbsp;inevitably encounter barriers in the&amp;nbsp;form of people like you.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Again, just because &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; couldn&apos;t access the pods does not mean his death was certain.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;I really don&apos;t see why she&apos;s that much of a problem for us. She wants the BIP. Should I really care about this BIP? Because I don&apos;t. I don&apos;t even know what the hell it really does, and I don&apos;t think you do either.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Of course, she was a problem for this guy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The fact of the matter is that the Machines generally don&apos;t sustain poddies after they&apos;ve been disconnected. If you want to believe otherwise, you&apos;re only blinding yourself.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:19:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:[11.2.4] The Machines have surrounded the pods - Syntax - 10/9/08</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;We&apos;re all still here, and we were poddies.&amp;nbsp; &lt;img src=&quot;/mxo/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;SMILEY&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Illyria&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:30:15 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:[11.2.4] The Machines have surrounded the pods - Syntax - 10/9/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Vinia wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Neoteny wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;If he had it, he would&apos;ve ended up dead as they acted to retrieve it. &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;If not, I&apos;m sure they would&apos;ve done away with him as well.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;His only chance for survival was to be picked up by a Zion or EPN ship, but the Machines made sure that was impossible.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ah I see. Of course you know this for certain, or as certain as anyone who doesn&apos;t actually&amp;nbsp;have a clue&amp;nbsp;about what would actually happen.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Your statement is either full of ignorance or a feeble attempt at propaganda. If it comes down to it, any attempt at Zion and Machines working together to tackle the problem of Wright will&amp;nbsp;inevitably encounter barriers in the&amp;nbsp;form of people like you.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Again, just because &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; couldn&apos;t access the pods does not mean his death was certain.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;First of all, a Machinist making implications of alluded-to spin, or propaganda, is laughable. Secondly,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/posts/list.m?topic_id=36300023534&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;there is an established history&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;of the Machines discarding bluepills after they have served their deemed use. While you&apos;ve established you disagreed with their acts previously, there&apos;s no denying there is basis to believe they would have certainly done the same again with Daryl Chester.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:32:52 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:[11.2.4] The Machines have surrounded the pods - Syntax - 10/9/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;shinpseudo wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;First of all, a Machinist making implications of alluded-to spin, or propaganda, is laughable. Secondly,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/posts/list.m?topic_id=36300023534&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;there is an established history&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;of the Machines discarding bluepills after they have served their deemed use. While you&apos;ve established you disagreed with their acts previously, there&apos;s no denying there is basis to believe they would have certainly done the same again with Daryl Chester.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Assuming that he would survive the extraction process and assuming the program could be removed from him. Thats a lot of assumptions and while there has indeed been occasions where Bluepills were deemed expendable by the Machines themselves, the situation is completely different. First and formost he&apos;d be a redpill, second he was carrying the program that they want so would be in their interest to keep him alive and lastly, Machinists like myself would make every effort to make sure he wasn&apos;t summarily killed after the Machines had achieved what they wanted to achieve. So while there is a small basis, it&apos;s&amp;nbsp;significantly overridden by the current situation.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:33:46 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;Vinia wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;shinpseudo wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;First of all, a Machinist making implications of alluded-to spin, or propaganda, is laughable. Secondly,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/posts/list.m?topic_id=36300023534&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;there is an established history&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;of the Machines discarding bluepills after they have served their deemed use. While you&apos;ve established you disagreed with their acts previously, there&apos;s no denying there is basis to believe they would have certainly done the same again with Daryl Chester.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Assuming that he would survive the extraction process and assuming the program could be removed from him. Thats a lot of assumptions and while there has indeed been occasions where Bluepills were deemed expendable by the Machines themselves, the situation is completely different. First and formost he&apos;d be a redpill, second he was carrying the program that they want so would be in their interest to keep him alive and lastly, Machinists like myself would make every effort to make sure he wasn&apos;t summarily killed after the Machines had achieved what they wanted to achieve. So while there is a small basis, it&apos;s&amp;nbsp;significantly overridden by the current situation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;First off&amp;nbsp;the assumption is that he&amp;nbsp;would die&amp;nbsp;during extraction.&amp;nbsp;There are only two common causes of death when extracting bluepills. Heart attack (which can be avoided&amp;nbsp;if the redpill trace program locates the pod quick enough) and drowning if the ship is unable to catch them after the go down&amp;nbsp;the water slide.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second you employers had in their custody a bluepill that they believed to have the BIP and were attempting to extract it from her up until Wright crashed the party. Obviously the program can be removed from bluepills (Although why on earth Wright or EPN thought that the BIP was on Chester is beyond me since its host&apos;s ID has already been revealed.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The point is&amp;nbsp;the up-ed security around the pods&amp;nbsp;wasn&apos;t helping the situation any.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:42:52 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;Vinia wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Assuming that he would survive the extraction process and assuming the program could be removed from him. Thats a lot of assumptions and while there has indeed been occasions where Bluepills were deemed expendable by the Machines themselves, the situation is completely different. First and formost he&apos;d be a redpill, second he was carrying the program that they want so would be in their interest to keep him alive and lastly, Machinists like myself would make every effort to make sure he wasn&apos;t summarily killed after the Machines had achieved what they wanted to achieve. So while there is a small basis, it&apos;s&amp;nbsp;significantly overridden by the current situation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Let&apos;s see...possible death during extraction...versus almost-certain death at the hands of Wright...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Does &apos;every effort&apos; not include disengaging him from his pod?&amp;nbsp;Because there sure weren&apos;t any Sentinels trying to pull him free before Wright got to him.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Your Monday-morning quarterbacking skills astound me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:57:27 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;ShiXinFeng wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;Let&apos;s see...possible death during extraction...versus almost-certain death at the hands of Wright...&lt;p&gt;Does &apos;every effort&apos; not include disengaging him from his pod?&amp;nbsp;Because there sure weren&apos;t any Sentinels trying to pull him free before Wright got to him.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Your Monday-morning quarterbacking skills astound me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Lets see... considering that Machinists are not in control of the pod system and are very probably about as welcome there as EPN, considering that Sentinels aren&apos;t designed for safe extraction of blue/redpills, considering that most bluepills are dependant on the simulation to survive, considering that the man apparently did not display any signs of questioning his reality, I would say that the chances of surviving an encounter with Wright or surviving extraction were pretty much the same. I believe that when I said Machinists like me would make &apos;every effort&apos; to ensure the man&apos;s safety &lt;i&gt;after&lt;/i&gt; an extraction, I pretty much covered what we &lt;i&gt;could&lt;/i&gt; do. It seems as though Machinists made every effort to keep him safe whilst in the simulation.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:24:12 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:[11.2.4] The Machines have surrounded the pods - Syntax - 10/9/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Vinia wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;ShiXinFeng wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;Let&apos;s see...possible death during extraction...versus almost-certain death at the hands of Wright... &lt;p&gt;Does &apos;every effort&apos; not include disengaging him from his pod?&amp;nbsp;Because there sure weren&apos;t any Sentinels trying to pull him free before Wright got to him.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Your Monday-morning quarterbacking skills astound me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Lets see... considering that Machinists are not in control of the pod system and are very probably about as welcome there as EPN, considering that Sentinels aren&apos;t designed for safe extraction of blue/redpills. I believe that when I said Machinists like me would make &apos;every effort&apos; to ensure the man&apos;s safety &lt;i&gt;after&lt;/i&gt; an extraction, I pretty much covered what we &lt;i&gt;could&lt;/i&gt; do.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I should have known that it would never have occured to you to ask your metal masters&apos; permission to go in and retrieve him yourself.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:30:41 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;ShiXinFeng wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;I should have known that it would never have occured to you to ask your metal masters&apos; permission to go in and retrieve him yourself.&lt;/blockquote&gt;You think that there would have been enough time before Wright caught up with him? The more people trying to ward her off him was the best course of action, without the numbers attempting to keep her at bay a trip to the pod system would have been futile.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Funny how it&apos;s always easier to blame others.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:37:37 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;GamiSB wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;First off&amp;nbsp;the assumption is that he&amp;nbsp;would die&amp;nbsp;during extraction.&amp;nbsp;There are only two common causes of death when extracting bluepills. Heart attack (which can be avoided&amp;nbsp;if the redpill trace program locates the pod quick enough) and drowning if the ship is unable to catch them after the go down&amp;nbsp;the water slide.&lt;/blockquote&gt;That&apos;s with bluepills who question their reality. The minds that don&apos;t question it are far more dependant on the simulation, ripping them for their world could have far more drastic results. I believe that&apos;s one of the firsts lessons we all get taught.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:41:30 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;Vinia wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;GamiSB wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;First off&amp;nbsp;the assumption is that he&amp;nbsp;would die&amp;nbsp;during extraction.&amp;nbsp;There are only two common causes of death when extracting bluepills. Heart attack (which can be avoided&amp;nbsp;if the redpill trace program locates the pod quick enough) and drowning if the ship is unable to catch them after the go down&amp;nbsp;the water slide.&lt;/blockquote&gt;That&apos;s with bluepills who question their reality. The minds that don&apos;t question it are far more dependant on the simulation, ripping them for their world could have far more drastic results. I believe that&apos;s one of the firsts lessons we all get taught.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;No, it was that they wouldn&apos;t handle the sudden change in reality as well as those questioning and could potenially fight to remain within the simulation. Death during extraction because of how they will handle it&amp;nbsp;has never once been a concern. Three years of witnessing forced awakenings via Code Bombs, Goo crying hockey players, and a blood red sky have proven that much.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:08:02 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;It is such a shame&amp;nbsp;Daryl&amp;nbsp;died.&amp;nbsp; He didn&apos;t deserve this fate.&amp;nbsp; The free-caring, book-loving,&amp;nbsp;bushy afro&apos;d bluepill was young, innocent, and&amp;nbsp;naive.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Machines wouldn&apos;t allow him to be&amp;nbsp;awakened&amp;nbsp;because that is against&amp;nbsp;their rules.&amp;nbsp; They knew we would try so they put sentinals around his pod so that&amp;nbsp;if he did wake up, they would take him out.&amp;nbsp; They would rather&amp;nbsp;a bluepill&amp;nbsp;die than to allow another human be added to the Zion army.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Machines are powerless to Wright. She is doing whatever she wants and showing that Machines do not have as much control and power as they say they do.&amp;nbsp; How many more humans have to die before the Machines figure a way to remove her and her kind from the Matrix?&amp;nbsp; It feels like the are not even trying.&amp;nbsp; It feels like they are just jumping out of her way and letting her do whatever she wants.&amp;nbsp; It feels that way because she roams the Matrix freely and doesn&apos;t run into opposition except from us.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thank you Machine Operatives for responding and attacking Danielle.&amp;nbsp; Delaying her allowed us to protect Daryl and move him around while we tried to come up with a plan.&amp;nbsp; Even though we were just prolonging his death, we at least tried everything possible to protect him and I think we did a heck of a job!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:27:24 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;Hydrazine wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;They would rather&amp;nbsp;a bluepill&amp;nbsp;die than to allow another human be added to the Zion army. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;And you have trouble understanding this...why?&amp;nbsp; Why would they let their enemy increase their forces?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Illyria&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 15:49:54 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>Well, it doesn&apos;t matter if he would have survived the extraction process, they could have simply gave him a temporary EJP system, saving the problem of losing the interface through death (for now).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, it doesn&apos;t matter to the Machines that he died. Everybody knows by now that a single bluepill is worth nothing to the Machines (and they gladly even kill single bluepills if they see it fit for their schemes (we know a few events where that happened) ((some Mech missions and some Mech LEs)), not even if that one bluepill harbours a greater danger. The single bluepill is just a 1 in a billion and only an insignificant factor in intself. That is the truth.</description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 03:19:27 GMT</pubDate>
<author>GoDGiVeR</author>
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<title>Re:[11.2.4] The Machines have surrounded the pods - Syntax - 10/9/08</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;The needs of the many...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Illyria&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 07:20:17 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Illyria22</author>
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<title>Re:Re:[11.2.4] The Machines have surrounded the pods - Syntax - 10/9/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Illyria22 wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The needs of the many...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Illyria&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;So hypothetical, by that logic&amp;nbsp;it&apos;s then&amp;nbsp;totally ok that a few are being horribly murdered and there lives destroyed because everyone else is living a wonderful happy life?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If that&apos;s how&amp;nbsp;it is then let the 1% do their thing, they are the few when compared to the other 99% ya know.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;*edit* &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;the hypocrite comment was unneeded.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 07:38:34 GMT</pubDate>
<author>GamiSB</author>
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<title>Re:[11.2.4] The Machines have surrounded the pods - Syntax - 10/9/08</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;It&apos;s not ok.&amp;nbsp; But if it&apos;s a choice between&amp;nbsp;a few&amp;nbsp;dying to save many, or many dying to save a few, there&apos;s really&amp;nbsp;no choice to make.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Zion&apos;s taken its share of bluepill lives too.&amp;nbsp; Think of the freeway chase, before the truce,&amp;nbsp;and all the accidents it caused.&amp;nbsp; And after the truce, the groups of redpills killing agents and their bluepill hosts&amp;nbsp;for their tie clips.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Zion&apos;s killed many to save just a few, but they&apos;ve also killed for fun.&amp;nbsp; That&apos;s the difference between us, and why I could never willingly stay with Zion.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Illyria&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 07:49:15 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Illyria22</author>
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<title>Re:[11.2.4] The Machines have surrounded the pods - Syntax - 10/9/08</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Well if it&apos;s any consolation, regardless of what the Machines think, we were there (Sentience)&amp;nbsp;trying to save the bluepill, as well as forcing Danielle Wright to deal with us on several occasions. Unfortunately in the end, there just wasn&apos;t anything we could do. Bluepills are generally high priority, safety-wise, except when higher priorities take its place. BIP being one of them, as much as I hate to admit it, or Danielle Wright. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Just one of the few occasions the enemy of my enemy became my friend. Just for a night at least.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:38:02 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Ballak</author>
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<title>Re:Re:[11.2.4] The Machines have surrounded the pods - Syntax - 10/9/08</title>
<description>&lt;cite&gt;Ballak wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Well if it&apos;s any consolation, regardless of what the Machines think, we were there (Sentience)&amp;nbsp;trying to save the bluepill, as well as forcing Danielle Wright to deal with us on several occasions. Unfortunately in the end, there just wasn&apos;t anything we could do. Bluepills are generally high priority, safety-wise, except when higher priorities take its place. BIP being one of them, as much as I hate to admit it, or Danielle Wright. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Just one of the few occasions the enemy of my enemy became my friend. Just for a night at least.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is consolation and&amp;nbsp;I at least thank you for your help. Really I was only messing with Illyria as the machine did help and you can never expect to make everyone happy. It&apos;s just bad luck really as to what happened and given the circumstances understandable as to why the Machine had such an increase in security around the pods. Could ti have gone down differently if there wasn&apos;t? Perhaps but that didn&apos;t happen so whats the point in arguing over it now.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:58:50 GMT</pubDate>
<author>GamiSB</author>
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