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<description>&lt;cite&gt;MotorZ wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;You guys are looking at it as if the Devs haven&amp;#39;t done anything with this. A lot of dev time has been wasted trying to find a setting that could get MxO to work with the 8000 series. Unfortunately, none of our devs know anything about the graphics engines, and are not trained to know how to fix it either. They&amp;#39;ve exhausted all possibilities on their end, and we have to hope Nvidia can find something on theirs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Side note : Be careful with the term wasted.&amp;nbsp; As it was not a waste.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:26:28 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Chainer</author>
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<description>Why should we thank the MxO dev team and bother nvidia? That makes no sense what so ever. Nvidia has nothing to do with mxo, and specifically nothing to do with any game code anywhere. No the indoor lag is a result of coding problems; the problem we have is that MxO no longer has any coders! So there are no devs to thank even in the first damned place. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I found a press release by mxo saying that they are going to get into contact with some microsoft board on the issue to seek help on the issue perhaps. However when mxo has no goddamned developers at all for MxO I fail to see what help that would do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To clarify for any other intellectually malnourished out there, Vista is NOT an acceptable fix. You do not release a game for XP, then declare that in order to continue playing it at a later date you now need an entirely new operating system. Not to mention that Vista introduces many NEW issues to MxO and only fixes the occasional person suffering from indoor lag - and to be honest I don&amp;#39;t believe it&amp;#39;s fixed it for ANYONE with an 8800. I&amp;#39;d wager all those &amp;#39;fixes&amp;#39; are other video card families entirely.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;SOE has ___ed up royally on this one! The only thing I have seen them do regarding the issue that I approve of is communicate with the community about the issue. Just wish it was enough &lt;img src=&quot;/mxo/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;SMILEY&quot; /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:51:21 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Lord_Devi</author>
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<description>I&amp;#39;m always shocked by the things that people say on forums.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;THANK THE DEV TEAM?! For trying so hard? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thats begging the question that there &lt;b&gt;IS&lt;/b&gt; a dev team. There is not a dev team! If there was, there might have been a fix... oh say, I don&amp;#39;t know, maybe A YEAR AGO. A whole &lt;b&gt;YEAR&lt;/b&gt;. Trying so hard might be -- here&amp;#39;s an idea, finding someone who can fix the problem and getting them to do it? Complaining at nVidia is pretty pointless. Its not nVidia&amp;#39;s code thats messing up here. If it was, we might see this exact problem in other places. If nVidia fixes it its because they don&amp;#39;t want their stuff being blamed for other peoples crap.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But of course, we don&amp;#39;t have a dev team. Its MXO&amp;#39;s code thats wrong, not nVidia. The problem is that MXO is abandonware now, and Sony&amp;#39;s still acting like its still one of their games. Look, point the finger at the people responsible, the people in charge of keeping this game online. They are the ones who reassigned or let the dev team go. They should have kept at least one coder around who can actually fix problems.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A nice posting, &amp;quot;Oh yeah, before you subscribe to this game, better not have an 8800 because we are too cheap to fix our bugs with it.&amp;quot; would have gone a long way too. The whole &amp;quot;Its nVidia&amp;#39;s fault!&amp;quot; is a pack of lies, lies and lies. This whole business is completely shameful.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--SD&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:51:25 GMT</pubDate>
<author>SalsaDoom</author>
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<description>You guys really paid an extra $15 bucks just to blast out into this thread? wow. And really, how exactly do we get updates every 6 weeks without a dev team? Just wondering.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway Chainer, I&amp;#39;m not saying waste in the way it means it wasn&amp;#39;t worthwhile, just now that they couldn&amp;#39;t find a fix on their own, it&amp;#39;s too bad their time couldn&amp;#39;t go into other things. I&amp;#39;m really hoping the fix is something kinda complex and not simple (but soon).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nice to hear Windows might be opening more backwards compatibility, and I&amp;#39;m hoping Nvidia can find something soon too.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:38:53 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;Lord_Devi wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Why should we thank the MxO dev team and bother nvidia? That makes no sense what so ever. Nvidia has nothing to do with mxo, and specifically nothing to do with any game code anywhere. No the indoor lag is a result of coding problems; the problem we have is that MxO no longer has any coders! So there are no devs to thank even in the first damned place. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I found a press release by mxo saying that they are going to get into contact with some microsoft board on the issue to seek help on the issue perhaps. However when mxo has no goddamned developers at all for MxO I fail to see what help that would do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To clarify for any other intellectually malnourished out there, Vista is NOT an acceptable fix. You do not release a game for XP, then declare that in order to continue playing it at a later date you now need an entirely new operating system. Not to mention that Vista introduces many NEW issues to MxO and only fixes the occasional person suffering from indoor lag - and to be honest I don&amp;#39;t believe it&amp;#39;s fixed it for ANYONE with an 8800. I&amp;#39;d wager all those &amp;#39;fixes&amp;#39; are other video card families entirely.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;SOE has ___ed up royally on this one! The only thing I have seen them do regarding the issue that I approve of is communicate with the community about the issue. Just wish it was enough &lt;img src=&quot;/mxo/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;SMILEY&quot; /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;LOL WUT?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;MxO was released for XP&lt;br /&gt;The 8000 series cards were released with DirectX 10 and Vista in mind.&lt;br /&gt;So SOE say that for the 8000 series to work with MxO properly (when they have maybe 2 code devs who know nothing about the graphics engine) and you think it&amp;#39;s all SOE&amp;#39;s fault?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Relax. Fixes are on the way. 99% of this is Microsoft&amp;#39;s fault for breaking DirectX 10 (nVidia built their 8000 series cards to the specs for a broken bit of software... so it&amp;#39;s not really their fault either.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do you still throw a fit because you can&amp;#39;t play any of your old DOS games on your new systems? I understand the frustration but blowing your top with no actual evidence or expertise in the areas of hardware or software will get you nowhere, fast.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Seriously you guys.&lt;br /&gt;Guys, seriously.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:53:09 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;phi wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Lord_Devi wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Why should we thank the MxO dev team and bother nvidia? That makes no sense what so ever. Nvidia has nothing to do with mxo, and specifically nothing to do with any game code anywhere. No the indoor lag is a result of coding problems; the problem we have is that MxO no longer has any coders! So there are no devs to thank even in the first damned place. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I found a press release by mxo saying that they are going to get into contact with some microsoft board on the issue to seek help on the issue perhaps. However when mxo has no goddamned developers at all for MxO I fail to see what help that would do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To clarify for any other intellectually malnourished out there, Vista is NOT an acceptable fix. You do not release a game for XP, then declare that in order to continue playing it at a later date you now need an entirely new operating system. Not to mention that Vista introduces many NEW issues to MxO and only fixes the occasional person suffering from indoor lag - and to be honest I don&amp;#39;t believe it&amp;#39;s fixed it for ANYONE with an 8800. I&amp;#39;d wager all those &amp;#39;fixes&amp;#39; are other video card families entirely.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;SOE has ___ed up royally on this one! The only thing I have seen them do regarding the issue that I approve of is communicate with the community about the issue. Just wish it was enough &lt;img src=&quot;/mxo/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;SMILEY&amp;lt;img mce_tsrc=&quot; /&gt;&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;LOL WUT?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;MxO was released for XP&lt;br /&gt;The 8000 series cards were released with DirectX 10 and Vista in mind.&lt;br /&gt;So SOE say that for the 8000 series to work with MxO properly (when they have maybe 2 code devs who know nothing about the graphics engine) and you think it&amp;#39;s all SOE&amp;#39;s fault?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Relax. Fixes are on the way. 99% of this is Microsoft&amp;#39;s fault for breaking DirectX 10 (nVidia built their 8000 series cards to the specs for a broken bit of software... so it&amp;#39;s not really their fault either.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do you still throw a fit because you can&amp;#39;t play any of your old DOS games on your new systems? I understand the frustration but blowing your top with no actual evidence or expertise in the areas of hardware or software will get you nowhere, fast.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Seriously you guys.&lt;br /&gt;Guys, seriously.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;BUT BUT&lt;br /&gt;I DEMAND MY MISSONSTRYKER!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sorry, had to throw an old DOS game in there. :p&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:55:35 GMT</pubDate>
<author>LtCmdr_Tsusai</author>
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<description>Is the entire 8000 series completely incompatible with MxO unless you have Vista installed? My brother is having major lag issues with his 8500gt card. He has an intel dual processor with over a gig of ram. Any answers? I think he has vista lying around somewhere, but I don&amp;#39;t want to tell him to use it unless it&amp;#39;s actually going to help lol. &lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:56:10 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;Ghostwise wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Is the entire 8000 series completely incompatible with MxO unless you have Vista installed? My brother is having major lag issues with his 8500gt card. He has an intel dual processor with over a gig of ram. Any answers? I think he has vista lying around somewhere, but I don&amp;#39;t want to tell him to use it unless it&amp;#39;s actually going to help lol. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes its all 8 series cards that have indoor lag with XP, If he installs vista no indoor lag but tons of graphical errors.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:04:08 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>Mother******!! lol&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:06:32 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>I still think the annoying sound looping was much worse than this, what&apos;s everyone whining about?
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&lt;br&gt; It&apos;s a new issue created by a new product, there will be a fix, it&apos;ll just take a little time.
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&lt;br&gt; Be patient folks!</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:30:08 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>Always nice when someone with nothing to contribute feels the need to show their ego.
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&lt;br&gt; The rest of us &quot;intellectually malnourished&quot; will continue to explore more than one avenue to solve the problem. Since Lord_Devi appears to have all the answers, I&apos;d suggest he participate more in the discussion and less in the saturation bombing.
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&lt;br&gt; MXO&apos;s code is incompatible with nVidia&apos;s drivers. nVidia&apos;s drivers are incompatible with MXO&apos;s code. Unless and until we are graced with the exact point of failure, you can call this 6 of one, half-dozen of the other.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:23:42 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>Fanbois. Gotta love &amp;#39;em.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think Lord_Devi&amp;#39;s point was pretty obvious. MxO might be an older game, but the fact remains that SoE lists it as a supported and available game yet it doesn&amp;#39;t work with common hardware. This problem isn&amp;#39;t new, it should have been fixed long ago, but it hasn&amp;#39;t. He finds it amazing that people are sitting around defending SoE/&amp;quot;The dev team&amp;quot;, after they have not fixed a major show stopping bug in a whole year.&amp;nbsp; Same goes for the Vista texture issues, Vista has been out for a while now, its too late to still be having problems with it, they should have been fixed already.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And then, &lt;b&gt;somehow&lt;/b&gt;, its not right for Lord_Devi to be upset that he paid to play a game only to find it is not, in actuality, supported at all anymore. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just amazing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--SD&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:13:46 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>Meh. I agree actually. It shouldn&amp;#39;t take a year to fix this kind of bug. Give them time? How much more time should we give them? If the bug isn&amp;#39;t fixed next year, or even the year after, would you still defend them?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It took eight months for at least the Producer to come out and &lt;i&gt;consider&lt;/i&gt; contacting third parties to help and fix this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Seriously.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:25:11 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;Lets keep this on Topic folks.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yes we know the community is fustrated as we are in actuallity.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But this is for Tech Support not an open forum to complain without adding to it constructively. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Keep it on topic.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:00:49 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;kou_urake wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Marias wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Hope springs eternal. I&amp;#39;ve just received word from a beta tester in my faction that the new Vista update will eliminate all known graphical issues with MxO, that has to do with the 8800&amp;#39;s. I&amp;#39;ve seen screenshots for confirmation while he was running Vista, and it looks to be legit. I&amp;#39;ll find a few and post them if I can.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Does it also fix all the VISTA issues too? (Texture nighmares, etc)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;I didn&amp;#39;t hear exact details, but the faction member said that with 2 8800&amp;#39;s and Vista, with the AA cranked up, he has no lag and the game looks the best that he&amp;#39;s ever seen on any system.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:04:12 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;... it sounds too good to be true.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:10:31 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>*CENSORED* STRAIGHT 9mmFU
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&lt;br&gt; i know this is hard to fix! But what everybody is trying to say in there own twisted ways is that:
&lt;br&gt; The problem exists and we want a fix SOE shud be doing all they can to fix this and if it means paying you devs more or contacting nVidia or telling Microsoft to get off their arses! and the same goes for every company out there its a triad of companies not putting in the effort they promise/should and then falling on the devs shoulders. Now they naive people cant see passed the two immediate parts of the chain and they have to blame someone instead of getting off their arse&apos;s and doing something to change it like im doing (getting the Radeon 3870 which has no problem and is kickarse).
&lt;br&gt; I respect the devs for what they are doing especially rarebit who has given mxo and this issue a good bash and keeps our game interesting. I dont like SOE&apos;s view of this game as a little cash flow on the side. But i thank them for not shutting it down a while ago. I dont like Windows not putting there best into a product that they claimed to be the best OS in a long time! and nVidia not living up to there name of making mxo they way it meant to be played! So it is alot of problems and people not living up to their names and everyone getting ancy at a problem thats not going away soon!</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:11:50 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;1stAnomaly wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Now they naive people cant see passed the two immediate parts of the chain and they have to blame someone instead of getting off their arse&amp;#39;s and doing something to change it like im doing (getting the Radeon 3870 which has no problem and is kickarse).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, I bought this brand new computer, and it is my naivitivity that I didnt look up every possible game forum to check whether my 8800 is supported or not ? And, to make things better, you really expect us (including me in this case) to throw this, again, brand new 8800 in the bin and get another..oh yes, brand new card?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Reality Check?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m having no problems whatsoever with other games, so please explain to&amp;nbsp;me again why I should get off my arse and get a new graphics card for one single, not too new game ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s&amp;nbsp;sometimes easy to lay blame, sometimes not. Here, I cant really say who&amp;#39;s to blame but for certain not the player-base.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:31:57 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;cite&gt;1stAnomaly wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;*CENSORED* STRAIGHT 9mmFU&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; i know this is hard to fix! But what everybody is trying to say in there own twisted ways is that:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; The problem exists and we want a fix SOE shud be doing all they can to fix this and if it means paying you devs more or contacting nVidia or telling Microsoft to get off their arses! and the same goes for every company out there its a triad of companies not putting in the effort they promise/should and then falling on the devs shoulders. Now they naive people cant see passed the two immediate parts of the chain and they have to blame someone instead of getting off their arse&amp;#39;s and doing something to change it like im doing (getting the Radeon 3870 which has no problem and is kickarse).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I respect the devs for what they are doing especially rarebit who has given mxo and this issue a good bash and keeps our game interesting. I dont like SOE&amp;#39;s view of this game as a little cash flow on the side. But i thank them for not shutting it down a while ago. I dont like Windows not putting there best into a product that they claimed to be the best OS in a long time! and nVidia not living up to there name of making mxo they way it meant to be played! So it is alot of problems and people not living up to their names and everyone getting ancy at a problem thats not going away soon!&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You *CENSORED* amaze me, how about you shut up and get out of this thread if your not going to contribute to it. I dont care if your buying the Radeon 3870, this thread is about the 8000 series cards and their problems.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:48:41 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;Dial it back a few notches folks. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As it is I think I am going to clean up this thread for non relavent posts.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:17:00 GMT</pubDate>
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