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<title>Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:11.3 Zion meeting - Wed, Nov 26th, 2:00 pm, Vector</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;odj wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Vinia wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;...and that he may change his methods based on reactions by players this first time round.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;If he had listened to some players when the New Approach first appeared and changed his methods then we wouldnt be in this idiotic position. But no, he stuck to his guns, look where thats got us, one month subscription down the drain.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;You can&amp;#39;t properly give feedback to something you have no hands-on time with.&amp;nbsp; I&amp;#39;m not 100% happy with all the changes either, but I couldn&amp;#39;t make a determination before it came out.&amp;nbsp; Rarebit had to try it out first. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:19:47 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:11.3 Zion meeting - Wed, Nov 26th, 2:00 pm, Vector</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;ArchDuke wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;odj wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Vinia wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;...and that he may change his methods based on reactions by players this first time round.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;If he had listened to some players when the New Approach first appeared and changed his methods then we wouldnt be in this idiotic position. But no, he stuck to his guns, look where thats got us, one month subscription down the drain.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;You can&amp;#39;t properly give feedback to something you have no hands-on time with.&amp;nbsp; I&amp;#39;m not 100% happy with all the changes either, but I couldn&amp;#39;t make a determination before it came out.&amp;nbsp; Rarebit had to try it out first. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Put it this way, when 1 man tells you&amp;nbsp;you&amp;#39;re drunk you laugh at him. When 10 pple tell you the same thing, in this case hundreds, you go&amp;nbsp;to sleep and you start fresh. i do agree he had to try it out , but some things can be foreseen without experiencing them -&amp;gt; deduction ftw. look where we ended up.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;tell you what, let&amp;#39;s postpone this convo to the feedback on the first update beyond winter holidays.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:29:46 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:11.3 Zion meeting - Wed, Nov 26th, 2:00 pm, Vector</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;NeoExcidious wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;ArchDuke wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;odj wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Vinia wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;...and that he may change his methods based on reactions by players this first time round.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;If he had listened to some players when the New Approach first appeared and changed his methods then we wouldnt be in this idiotic position. But no, he stuck to his guns, look where thats got us, one month subscription down the drain.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;You can&amp;#39;t properly give feedback to something you have no hands-on time with.&amp;nbsp; I&amp;#39;m not 100% happy with all the changes either, but I couldn&amp;#39;t make a determination before it came out.&amp;nbsp; Rarebit had to try it out first. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Put it this way, when 1 man tells you&amp;nbsp;you&amp;#39;re drunk you laugh at him. When 10 pple tell you the same thing, in this case hundreds, you go&amp;nbsp;to sleep and you start fresh. i do agree he had to try it out , but some things can be foreseen without experiencing them -&amp;gt; deduction ftw. look where we ended up.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;tell you what, let&amp;#39;s postpone this convo to the feedback on the first update beyond winter holidays.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I like to think of this first round of meetings of the New Approach as an experiment.&amp;nbsp; Rarebit had a hypothesis and a procedure.&amp;nbsp; He was testing that hypothesis.&amp;nbsp; He had to try it out to see how it would work, because you never know for sure unless you try.&amp;nbsp; Even if players weren&amp;#39;t happy about it.&amp;nbsp; A lot of people weren&amp;#39;t happy with CR2.0 too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But yeah, we&amp;#39;ll save this for after the Winter Event. &lt;img src=&quot;/mxo/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;SMILEY&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 12:10:56 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:11.3 Zion meeting - Wed, Nov 26th, 2:00 pm, Vector</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Anyway, I&amp;#39;d like to bring up the following questions again: are the reports of all the three meetings and the upcoming party&amp;nbsp;be posted in the &quot;Live Events&quot; section? If not - why? I can&amp;#39;t see any reason why this could not be made... We have no more story summaries, Rarebit didn&amp;#39;t say anything on the idea to actually archive the 11.3 quests... Don&amp;#39;t tell me that even the LE section itself will be abandoned?!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 12:39:43 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:Re:11.3 Zion meeting - Wed, Nov 26th, 2:00 pm, Vector</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;deimoslvov wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Anyway, I&amp;#39;d like to bring up the following questions again: are the reports of all the three meetings and the upcoming party&amp;nbsp;be posted in the &quot;Live Events&quot; section? If not - why? I can&amp;#39;t see any reason why this could not be made... We have no more story summaries, Rarebit didn&amp;#39;t say anything on the idea to actually archive the 11.3 quests... Don&amp;#39;t tell me that even the LE section itself will be abandoned?!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m sure the meetings and the LEs that still happen (though no longer daily) will get posted in that section.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 12:41:44 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:11.3 Zion meeting - Wed, Nov 26th, 2:00 pm, Vector</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;deimoslvov wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh please... There will always be those who like change and those who are disappointed with it. Every time you change things you&amp;#39;ll have to deal with that.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;You misunderstand us, we like the new contents what we do not like is what of good there was before, LE.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And we do not aske to go back to daily events, but&amp;nbsp; to have back a minimum effort on the thing was the best proprieties of this game.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 12:48:17 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:11.3 Zion meeting - Wed, Nov 26th, 2:00 pm, Vector</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;SEPET wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;deimoslvov wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh please... There will always be those who like change and those who are disappointed with it. Every time you change things you&amp;#39;ll have to deal with that.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;You misunderstand us, we like the new contents what we do not like is what of good there was before, LE.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And we do not aske to go back to daily events, but&amp;nbsp; to have back a minimum effort on the thing was the best proprieties of this game.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;quite.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:03:22 GMT</pubDate>
<author>NeoExcidious</author>
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<title>Re:Re:11.3 Zion meeting - Wed, Nov 26th, 2:00 pm, Vector</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;deimoslvov wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Anyway, I&amp;#39;d like to bring up the following questions again: are the reports of all the three meetings and the upcoming party&amp;nbsp;be posted in the &quot;Live Events&quot; section? If not - why?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;If Rare wanted us to know all three sides of the story in this &quot;new approach&quot; he would open up the other org&amp;#39;s 11.3 missions.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I wouldn&amp;#39;t hold your breath.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 08:21:52 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:11.3 Zion meeting - Wed, Nov 26th, 2:00 pm, Vector</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Even if we can&amp;#39;t have daily events, an event every 1-2 weeks would be good.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Illyria&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:02:45 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with both of you personally hydrazine and nubious..also I felt while i was standing there trying to read over miles of system chat that the weekly zion meetings that we have are more fuel charged and edifying than that meeting! &lt;img src=&quot;/mxo/images/smilies/1cfd6e2a9a2c0cf8e74b49b35e2e46c7.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:02:08 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Tessier-Ashpool wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I guess some&amp;nbsp; lvl 65guards&amp;nbsp; or lvl 100 guards will apear to protect the meeting eh ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Dont forget its a hostile server , and the mervs and machs are bored without zionites &lt;img src=&quot;/mxo/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;No, Not at all we log on our zions.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 1 Dec 2008 05:56:29 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;cookie1017 wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I agree with both of you personally hydrazine and nubious..also I felt while i was standing there trying to read over miles of system chat that the weekly zion meetings that we have are more fuel charged and edifying than that meeting! &lt;img src=&quot;/mxo/images/smilies/1cfd6e2a9a2c0cf8e74b49b35e2e46c7.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe the word is &quot;were&quot; hun.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:22:05 GMT</pubDate>
<author>NeoExcidious</author>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;Why didn&amp;#39;t Niobe send out the rewards for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/posts/list.m?topic_id=36300025371&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Zion vs EPN Finals&lt;/a&gt;?&amp;nbsp; How much longer do we have to wait?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 3 Dec 2008 01:31:59 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:Re:11.3 Zion meeting - Wed, Nov 26th, 2:00 pm, Vector</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Omega0 wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why didn&amp;#39;t Niobe send out the rewards for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/posts/list.m?topic_id=36300025371&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Zion vs EPN Finals&lt;/a&gt;?&amp;nbsp; How much longer do we have to wait?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;((That&amp;#39;s a very good question...2 months and we are still waiting!))&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 3 Dec 2008 04:51:26 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;TonyJaa wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Omega0 wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why didn&amp;#39;t Niobe send out the rewards for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/posts/list.m?topic_id=36300025371&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Zion vs EPN Finals&lt;/a&gt;?&amp;nbsp; How much longer do we have to wait?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;((That&amp;#39;s a very good question...2 months and we are still waiting!))&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you read what Pentothal said in that thread, it sounds like there were only rewards for the trials, and the finals between the 2 orgs were just bragging rights. /shrug&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:52:18 GMT</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Bayamos wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;TonyJaa wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Omega0 wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why didn&amp;#39;t Niobe send out the rewards for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/posts/list.m?topic_id=36300025371&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Zion vs EPN Finals&lt;/a&gt;?&amp;nbsp; How much longer do we have to wait?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;((That&amp;#39;s a very good question...2 months and we are still waiting!))&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you read what Pentothal said in that thread, it sounds like there were only rewards for the trials, and the finals between the 2 orgs were just bragging rights. /shrug&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That&amp;#39;s not what Incrypt told me in a PM.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:13:13 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:11.3 Zion meeting - Wed, Nov 26th, 2:00 pm, Vector</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Thats not what I heard.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:45:58 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:Re:Re:Re:11.3 Zion meeting - Wed, Nov 26th, 2:00 pm, Vector</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Bayamos wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;TonyJaa wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Omega0 wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why didn&amp;#39;t Niobe send out the rewards for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/posts/list.m?topic_id=36300025371&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Zion vs EPN Finals&lt;/a&gt;?&amp;nbsp; How much longer do we have to wait?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;((That&amp;#39;s a very good question...2 months and we are still waiting!))&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you read what Pentothal said in that thread, it sounds like there were only rewards for the trials, and the finals between the 2 orgs were just bragging rights. /shrug&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#39;s what Pentothal told his operatives..Incrypt told us differently.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;((I still have Incrypt&amp;#39;s messages))&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:07:18 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re:Re:11.3 Zion meeting - Wed, Nov 26th, 2:00 pm, Vector</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Gerik wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thats not what I heard.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Which post were you referring to?&amp;nbsp; Bayamos&amp;#39; post?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:19:00 GMT</pubDate>
<author>Omega0</author>
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<title>Re:Re:Re:11.3 Zion meeting - Wed, Nov 26th, 2:00 pm, Vector</title>
<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Omega0 wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Gerik wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thats not what I heard.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Which post were you referring to?&amp;nbsp; Bayamos&amp;#39; post?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Pretty sure he&amp;#39;s referring to yours.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:01:45 GMT</pubDate>
<author>eval</author>
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