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Congrats on 500 posts in this topic. While The Brethren haven't been tracking this event due to many issues, we fully support the increased activity and interest. Keep up the good work.

It's nice to finally be involved in an event! My bros Morphesu and n4pst3r and I all got caught on-screen for this event, so thank you and well done. Anome... you are NEXT!

Ghost, you ought to know by now, when Niobe makes up her mind you have one choice: you go with her or you get the hell out of her way.

If I'm reading this right, it's Saturday, December 8th at 11 AM Megacity Time

Sooner or later, you are going to realize, just as we all did, that there is a difference between knowing a path and walking a path.

Algorithm Black is an expansive Player Event that has been going on for some time. It has a complex back story and plot and is so thick with mysteries to be explored, information to be gathered and encounters to be had that it is certainly in the top three of all Player Events in MxO.

Remember, all I'm offering you is the truth, nothing more: http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/..._id=36300017331

PascaI Wrote:
Why do they call cheese - cheese?

PS10N replies:

Because without it, Rarebit would be... toast!

Events surrounding the disappearance of the Cypherite Liaison officer Viraconrida continue... only now she's been found - what's left of her anyway. I can't really say that she's in one piece, or that she’s all there for that matter. You'd best check the latest posts on the thread at Data Node One » Forums » The Matrix Online » Top » News and Announcements » Live Events » "Viraconrida's missing - Recursion - 11/7/06" by Veil for more information, if you’re interested at all.

I'm afraid your assumptions are incorrect. These events happened last night, and this is not over yet. Check the Live Events thread for this event - there is more to come on this matter. Don't worry though, just go back to sleep and dream...

PS10N is 38 now, and was 36 at the time of Awakening. With age comes experience and wisdom. Sit at the feet of the elder and learn the secrets of life, grasshopper.

I thoroughly enjoyed PoN and still load it up occasionally for a few levels of true Matrix-style combat. Those who panned the game were mostly without sufficient hardware to run it well at any decent level of detail and resolution. Enter The Matrix has over 5000 moves in the combat move tree, yet most who played it never bothered with more than the basic fighting and shooting. You get out of a game what you put in to a game (yes, even MxO you posers.) PoN has many times the number of combinations possible and I've loved teasing every last one of them out of the engine. The targeting system is cake on the PC, hitting 2, 3, 4, 5 or even 6 opponents in one combo is so satisfying, especially when Smith says, "You can't fight us all, Mr. Anderson" and then they all get owned.

"Mr. Anterson"

"Mr. Anterson"

Yes, it's very easy to change any of the game's models to any of the other models, which makes flying around the city as the Leprechaun (see the Zion Archive in PoN) or fighting the Burly Brawl as an APU hilarious fun, as was changing the dojo scene so that Morpheus was fighting himself. Back in Enter the Matrix we would play as the pigeon model - there is nothing funnier than a pigeon going Matrix-style on a guard, throwing him across the room and then whipping out a shotgun to finish him off. "That's one pissed-off pigeon!"

The W. brothers' cut scene in the middle of the final fight of PoN is also very entertaining. Isn't it always funny when people make fun of themselves and their fans?

For the sake of our little game universe, the Megacity is the Matrix and we can go to four Districts there. Period. For the sake of Fanfic, Player Events and RP, mention the world. No one should even call you on it and if they do, mention Morpheus at Heathrow Airport, the Arabic alphabet on Neo's screen, Japan in the Animatrix and etc. At the very least bluepills and redpills know about the rest of the world even if they've never been there. My own background details, written when MxO was a gleam in Ubisoft's eye, mention a post-college trip thru Europe to find myself, which led to paranormal encounters and my bluepill life chasing after exiles.

Now that would be telling! The Europe part didn't really happen to me. The paranormal parts... well, that's between me and my therapist. Hey, has anyone actually seen my therapist lately?

I'll look for you in-game and check for these in my structures when next I'm in.

It has been envisioned as a big machine city that is roughly triangular shaped (fractal) with three power plant pod tower clusters around it (around the points or sides as one might prefer, each with their own field.) These tower clusters would be Recursion, Syntax and Vector. This is meant only to fit in with game mechanics and is not meant to be representative of anything outside what fits with game mechanics.

A recent Live Event alludes to power plant pod tower clusters or maybe Machine operative bases with pod clusters "elsewhere on the surface."

My Organization would be called The Communicados. Everyone in the Organization would stay in the same chat room 100% of the time they were at their computers and stay jacked in to The Matrix as much as possible, if even just to watch what's going on. When anything interesting happened, like a spontaneous, Player or Live Event, they would announce it in the chat room. Yup, that would be a great Organization.

If the Machines can't control you, they will overwrite you and if that can not be done, they will kill you. This is an indisputable fact of their constant behavior over the past six and a half centuries. This means all of you. The Redpill Machines have given over their jack encoding to their masters and those maniacal mechanicals are trying to get the jack encoding for Zion from the abandoned mainframe. Since Merovingian operatives were Awakened thru Zion and are in that database, no one is safe. It's meatwads for all of you, my little dearies, meatwads for all of you, Zion, EPN, Merovingian, Machines and Cypherites: your future is a meatwad.

Basic machine programming overview:
1) CONTROL
2) Failing 1, OVERWRITE
3) Failing 2, KILL

Unsubstantiated? This has been their ONLY Modus Operandi for 650 years. You are sooooo deceived.

The mass graves which were six cities attest to the slaughter of the innocent. The bones of nearly 1,300,000 mock your defense of their murderers. I challenge you to name one single action of the machines from the time they destroyed New York City until present day that did not involve control, deceit or killing. Despots. Liars. Murderers.

Ah, the ever evasive ignorant evades every single issue which is brought up with a personal attack on the other debater. So typical. The surface is one big graveyard, you blind and foolish generation. Amazing that you haven't addressed the core moral issue yet, but keep ignoring it, like you ignore history and evidence and continue to spout the lies of your programmed masters. You believe the machines deleted Smith?! That is laughable. I'm stunned at this level of ignorance. Obviously you don't understand the nature of the One or the Zero. The machines did not "allow" Neo anything, they were at his mercy, filled with fear at their own destruction if they did not put aside their urge to kill him. "If that's true then I've made a mistake and you should kill me now." Think about that. What did Neo expect from the Machines? That they would try to kill him. He was right, and it's what is going to happen to every single one of you when you finally disobey their orders. Your fate is a meatwad, enjoy the wait.

Dinner time in New Zion! Come and get it!

YUM YUM!

It looks to me as if that is 100% fungus and "fleshy roots," stuff that grows with no sunlight.

In Enter the Matrix, Sparks asks Niobe and Ghost "When I cart your dead bodies back to Zion, do you prefer cremation or the gardens?" This might imply that areas of soil are kept fertile enough for growing fungus by adding... organic matter which is no longer being used.

"which gave Deus Ex Machina a link to send a virus through Neo's RSI to destroy the Smith program."

That's not what happened. This is the biggest lie ever told about the plot of The Matrix movies; it originated from someone who didn't understand anything they had just seen and who needed to invent a "neato sci-fi" reason to fit their limited cogniscence. Because it was repeated over and over and over ad infinitum ad nausea, it has been believed by the majority who simply don't know any better. (Thus, this isn't a shot at the post's author; he's merely read in to the nonsense.) All the answers to every question brought up in a Matrix medium are answered somewhere else in the story. I for one am sick to death of repeating what is already there to hear in the scripts. "Open to interpretation" and blah blah blah but don't make up crap that isn't in the movies, that goes against what is in the movies and expect anyone who was paying attention to accept it.

EDIT: more on topic and less pissy, yes, Smith gained the knowledge of his hosts. ("What did you do with Sati?" | "Cookies need love like everything does.") The very same Smith who said that line was the Smith who had been Sati before her shell was overwritten. Thusly, Smith gains "the Sight" by taking over Oracle ("You have the Sight now Neo, you are seeing the world without time" / "They say [the eyes of the Oracle] cannot be taken, they can only be given.") and could see up to the point of his understanding of his choices: defeating Neo. Neo had no such foresight about his own choice. He had to understand that choosing to fight simply made both sides stronger and the whole more unbalanced. This "Satori of Sati" if you will (and if you can,) resulted in polar opposites being brought directly together, balancing the equation in one violent connection which by definition destroyed both imbalances.

"And the destruction of Smith seemed to be Neo using the same trick from the end of the first movie rather than any action of Dues Ex Machina."

Props to you for this, GypsyJuggler. The W. Brothers always wanted to make The Matrix a trilogy, but if that didn't happen, they wanted to use the ideas from the trilogy in the original, but without giving them all away in case there would be a trilogy. (Isn't movie making interesting?) So, you will see little hints of Reloaded and Revolutions in the original if you look closely. The old bum in the subway station who sees Morpheus jack-out was a "plot shadow" of the Trainman. There are others, but I'll leave them to the watchers.

The mechanicals' plan calls for all Redpills to be voluntarily or forcibly removed from the Matrix, after which it will be "upgraded" to a version incompatible with Jacking In, where there will be no Awakenings and where rejecting the simulation results in death. The Machines (Redpills) will be no different from any other Organization. You're scheduled for meat-wadding, Vinia, Procurator and all you other deluded mental automatons. You won't believe it now, but you will, when it's too late.

Have a raining taco instead...

BAD Ideas that are NOT in the movies but have stunk their way in to MxO canon:

1) It's always 1999 in the Matrix.
2) The Matrix is only a big city and a surrounding mountain range.
3) Morpheus found five "failed Ones" before finding Neo.

And before I get jumped (again) for #3 because "it's in the original script:" it was in the script and was not shot in to the movie because it was a BAD IDEA that they REJECTED. Going thru old movie scripts to find things that were not used in order to show that they were "real" is pretty flawed. The early scripts of "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan" don't include Spock's death so, following the same logic as those who are whining "but it's in the script they didn't use!" then Spock didn't die in Wrath of Khan, either, even tho that's what everyone saw on the screen. The W Bros re-used the concept of "five previous Ones" in Reloaded, so throwing it back on top of the present cycle makes no sense and is the equivalent of eating thrown away food out of garbage bin. They threw it out because it was bad - why are you so eager to eat it up?

At that time, Smith had plans to destroy all life, human and mechanical. By calling Sati the "last exile" he was cruelly pointing out that she would be the last exile, ever. Thank Neo, it didn't happen that way.

While an unusual and interesting take on the highly interpretable Matrix trilogy, the limited allegory breaks down completely when we consider such aspects as, Christ doesn't copy himself on to others against their will and Christ does not desire the end of all life and Christ did not rebel against God (Smith rebelled against his purpose as defined by his creator.) So, bravo for breaking new insights as far as they go, but they don't go all that far. Even those who seek to equate Neo as a Christ figure will encounter difficulty with integrating the Eastern ideas so prevalent in the series. As before, I suggest that those truly interested in the spiritual aspects of the Matrix trilogy begin their journey at the end, with a translation of the Sanskrit words sung in Neodammerung / Navras, which plays during the final conflict between Neo and Smith and are from the Upanashads of the Vedas.

The point isn't being missed. The allegory fails on direct principles.

"Whoever believes in me shall not die but have eternal life" vs. "The purpose of life is to end."
"If you Love me, then feed my sheep" vs. "Only a human mind could invent something as insipid as love."

If Smith is Christ, then Neo is the Devil, but nowhere in Christianity is the story of the Devil returning to save God and all of Heaven from being wiped out by Christ, as the story would go in The Matrix. Smith's final aim was to destroy all life: human (freeborn, redpill, bluepill,) exile and mechanical, which is the exact opposite of a Messianic Redeemer.

Because there is a great deal of symbolism from all of the world's major belief systems in the Matrix properties, trying to reduce the symbolism to just one of those religions will always fall short; there would always be a deficit of context. Because of two thousand years of conditioning, it's easy to assume that a depiction of an underground cavern with magma and writhing bodies must be a depiction of Hell. Take the time to learn that Christianity was begun by Hellenistic Jews who rejected the Greek pagan notions of the afterlife, the underworld and the goddess Hel by turning them into the antithesis of their notions of an afterlife for the redeemed. The historical and contemporary depictions of "the devil" all have their basis in a rejection of pagan Greek archetypes. The horns, hooves and other bestial features are from Pan, the pitch-fork is Poseidon's trident and ruling the underworld comes from attributes of Hades and Hel. [There were no historical Saints Bridget or Nicholas, but rather old pagan deities were beatified when it became clear that their veneration would not stop, even after conversion. Most of the Santa Clause myth, including flying reindeer, a sack full of gifts, the evergreen tree and climbing down the chimney, stems from Nordic rites involving psychedelic mushrooms!] Equating sensuality and sexuality with sin is equally a control structure of modern organized religion, and another rejection of pagan rites which often involved sexual symbolism or practices. There are many schools of thought which hold sexuality to be spiritual and even holy, and it's clear that the W. brothers intended this context because the dancing is the continuation of Zion's Holy Rites which all take place in their Temple.

Getting back to the Matrix' use of varied symbolism, there are references to Christian, Judaic, Islamic, Hindu, Taoist, Zen and Greek ideas. There are numerous hidden references to specific verses of the Bible, the Quran and the Upanishads in graffiti, license plates and signs. Trying to interpret the symbolism of the entirety of the Matrix properties within only one spiritual context is doomed to failure. [Those lucky enough to have the 10-DVD Ultimate Matrix Collection can listen to the commentaries by prominent philosophical figures to gain more insight, including assumptions about duality and the pitfalls of Manachian polarism.]

So, appearances can be deceiving, especially if the context is an assumption. All subjective truths critically depend on context.

Think two RSIs can get a total of 139 rep points in 80 missions? Let's assume this wasn't against the TOS/EULA; your offering prices are laughable. $5 million can be made in less than an hour by doing very little else than looting. $20 million is a good afternoon, but hardly compensation for 139 rep points.

"He is you. Your opposite, your negative." - The Oracle

When you bring two opposites together, they cancel each other out. End of Story.

"At this point in the story, Neo stands on the verge of satori, ready to resolve the paradox of choice and choicelessness, of free will vs. fate, but that can only be achieved through an act of surrender, which occurs after he has abandoned the perspectile nature of truth, accepting the totality of present consciousness, which ultimately allows an evolutionary transition, transcending the Cartesian dilemma through the emergence of delimited spirit, which then provides the world with the choice of a third path, the path of Neo, the path of peace." - Larry Wachowski

Watch their first film "Bound" if you want more along those lines.

A few MxO players have tried to canonize their RP or fan-fic by including references to it in Wikipedia. Sad.

Looking for a pro- and an-tagonist, you've fallen in the pitfall of Manachian polarization, the illusion that is duality.

Zerotolerance wrote:

That hardly made any sense, actually.

Duality in science is real. Duality in the mind/body is something that is up for debate - some believe that one can be controlled by the other.

Spiritual duality is also up for debate and I think that's the one you're referring to. Those who believe that if good exists there must also be evil, and vice-versa. Although you don't necessarily need to look at it from a spiritual standpoint, to some degree there is truth behind the concept of duality. Perceiving it to be false, rejecting it entirely for its core meaning, is a rather inexperienced conclusion. There's a balance of good and evil, positive and negative, compassion and hatred, in the world and within each and every person. Some are simply imbalanced. Although you can also view things as subjective, there's many moral concepts that anyone can embrace that have little or nothing to do with spiritual duality.

Some have a capacity to be wreckless.
Some are mindful of the world around them.
Both have varying capacities within the individual.

Didn't make sense to whom? I'm sorry that you didn't understand. The philosophers commentary on The Ultimate Matrix Collection 10 DVD set talks rather extensively about Manachian duality, pitfalls of polarization and illusory duality. i.e. the mistake of thinking Humans/Zion=Good, Machines/Matrix=Bad; which one might think from watching the original movie but cannot continue in Reloaded when the Oracle is revealed as a Machine program. If a story has a clear "good protagonist vs. evil antagonist," then it is Manachian and polar, a duality in conflict. If the characters do not line up on opposite sides of a definite line but are rather shades of gray, one must look beyond simple Manachian duality to provide a philosophical context.

The "inexperienced conclusion" comment made me chuckle; my former professors would get a kick out of you! Rather than try to explain the esoteric concept behind these lines of thought myself, let me refer you to a page from a book which was required reading when I earned one of my three four-year degrees in esoteric studies. The books inclusion on the required reading for the course should be credential enough for the basis of debate if you'd care to rebut.

THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY.
“Everything is Dual; everything has poles; everything has its pair of opposites; like and unlike are the same; opposites are identical in nature, but different in degree; extremes meet; all truths are but half-truths; all paradoxes may be reconciled.”–The Kybalion.

This Principle embodies the truth that “everything is dual”; “everything has two poles”; “everything has its pair of opposites,” all of which were old Hermetic axioms. It explains the old paradoxes, that have perplexed so many, which have been stated as follows: “Thesis and antithesis are identical in nature, but different in degree”; “opposites are the same, differing only in degree”; “the pairs of opposites may be reconciled”; “extremes meet”; “everything is and isn't, at the same time”; “all truths are but half-truths”; “every truth is half false”; “there are two sides to everything,” etc., etc., etc. It explains that in everything there are two poles, or opposite aspects, and that “opposites” are really only the two extremes of the same thing, with many varying degrees between them To illustrate: Heat and Cold, although “opposites,” are really the same thing, the differences consisting merely of degrees of the same thing. Look at your thermometer and see if you can discover where “heat” terminates and “cold” begins! There is no such thing as “absolute heat” or “absolute cold”– the two terms “heat” and “cold” simply indicate varying degrees of the same thing, and that “same thing” which manifests as “heat” and “cold” is merely a form, variety, and rate of Vibration. So “heat” and “cold” are simply the “two poles” of that which we call “Heat”–and the phenomena attendant thereupon are manifestations of the Principle of Polarity. The same principle manifests in the case of “Light and Darkness,” which are the same thing, the difference consisting of varying degrees between the two poles of the phenomena. Where does “darkness” leave off, and “light” begin? What is the difference between “Large and Small”? Between “Hard and Soft”? Between “Black and White”? Between “Sharp and Dull”? Between “Noise and Quiet”? Between “High and Low”? Between “Positive and Negative”? The Principle of Polarity explains these paradoxes, and no other Principle can supersede it. The same Principle operates on the Mental Plane. Let us take a radical and extreme example that of “Love and Hate,” two mental states apparently totally different. And yet there are degrees of Hate and degrees of Love, and a middle point in which we use the terms “Like or Dislike,” which shade into each other so gradually that sometimes we are at a loss to know whether we “like” or “dislike” or “neither.” And all are simply degrees of the same thing, as you will see if you will but think a moment. And, more than this (and considered of more importance by the Hermetists), it is possible to change the vibrations of Hate to the vibrations of Love, in one's own mind, and in the minds of others. Many of you, who read these lines, have had personal experiences of the involuntary rapid transition from Love to Hate, and the reverse, in your own case and that of others. And you will therefore realize the possibility of this being accomplished by the use of the Will, by means of the Hermetic formulas. “Good and Evil” are but the poles of the same thing, and the Hermetist understands the art of transmuting Evil into Good, by means of an application of the Principle of Polarity. In short, the “Art of Polarization” becomes a phase of “Mental Alchemy” known and practiced by the ancient and modern Hermetic Masters. An understanding of the Principle will enable one to change his own Polarity, as well as that of others, if he will devote the time and study necessary to master the art.

If anyone can expound on my "satori of sati" comment far above, you can come sit at our midsummer fire and stare into the void with us.

A wizard did it!

(Rarebit for Supreme High Wizard)

According to the storyline of the Matrix Online which we are all playing out, it is always 1999 in the simulation and all the "physical" and mental records of time progressing are reset to "00:00:00 01-01-1999" a second after "23:59:59 12-31-1999" The Bluepills' minds are being edited. A lot of us don't like it (myself included) but that's the way it is because that's the way the Deus Ex MxO (Rarebit and Paul Chadwick) say it is. There is a Live Events post with TickTock talking to a confused Redpill about it here. There is more movie evidence against the idea than for it (see the Original Post in this thread) but we play it like we're dealt it. At least it explains why the city doesn't get more modern over time. By one way of reckoning, the one I prefer, in the Real it's about 2781.

None of these sites take into account the symbolism in the Matrix properties from the Bible, the Quran and the Upanishads. They aren't even mentioned. It's impossible to get the full meaning of Revolutions without at least some knowledge of the Vedas. None of the sites expound upon the spiritual traditions which provided the whole "philosophy of the Matrix" for the Wachowskis. None of them even touch on the hidden references to world religions scattered in all three movies and some of the other media. While I understand that it is possible to enjoy the Matrix stories and even get something of a "deeper understanding" of the mysteries they present without these connotations, I can not help but think that without them, it's just a sci-fi kung-fu flick and the baby has been thrown out with the bathwater (and the sponge, and the towels, and the soap, and the TUB.) For me, these sites are completely useless except as examples of how poorly the movies can be interpreted without the spiritual context. After the first viewing of Revolutions, I had no questions of how or why or what; it made perfect sense to me because of the preparation three degrees in the esoteric arts and sciences gave. If there are sites which go into the depths of symbolic and scriptural content, please post links. There are two books, "The Philosophy of the Matrix" and "The Gospel Reloaded" which seem interesting enough to look for at a used book store, but I was seriously put-off commentary books by one called "Matrix Warrior: Being the One" which was, to be very generous, crap. All these extra added on theories are not needed. The movies (along with all related media) explain everything in depth if the viewer already holds the keys of the symbolism of world religions. Like the man said, let he who has eyes, see; let he who has ears, hear.

None of these sites take into account the symbolism in the Matrix properties from sadomasochism, bondage and discipline, fetish and other "deviant" sexual practices. They aren't even mentioned. It's impossible to get the full meaning of any Matrix movie without at least some knowledge of the underground sex scene. None of the sites expound upon the kinky traditions which provided the whole "philosophy of the Matrix" for the Wachowskis. None of them even touch on the hidden references to fetish subculture scattered in all three movies and some of the other media. While I understand that it is possible to enjoy the Matrix stories and even get something of a "hellatious thrill" from the stimulation they present without these connotations, I can not help but think that without them, it's just a sci-fi kung-fu flick and the baby has been thrown out with the bathwater (and the sponge, and the towels, and the soap, and the TUB.) For me, these sites are completely useless except as examples of how poorly the movies can be interpreted without the fetish subculture context. After the first viewing of the trilogy, I had no questions of how or why or what; it made perfect sense to me because of the preparation that years of study of and practice in alternative clubs gave. If there are sites which go into the depths of The Matrix' sexual fetish content, please don't post links, that's against the TOS! There might be some books about the Wachowski brothers experiences which influenced this part of the films, and I'd like to find them. All these extra added on theories are not needed. The movies (along with all related media) explain everything in depth if the viewer already holds the keys to at least one pair of handcuffs. Like some man said, let he who has ... eh, better not go there.

Do you mean the Marquis de Sade? Talk about old school! The scene where Neo and Trinity first meet was shot in a fetish club in Australia. Everyone you see in the background was from the club and in their own outfits. Many nights out at the local fetish club night I've looked down from the balcony and had the strange feeling of being in the Matrix, of feeling what the W. brothers must have felt as the ideas for the story first took hold in their minds as they enjoyed a night among the freaks.

Want to see some pictures?

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From the club! Dang...