You can use it if you equip your Spy Style with it loaded then change you load to a full Spy tree load. The bonus effect on the Spy Style stats will not change until you reequip it with different bonuses again. You might think that's a bit of an effort for a 4% bonus since it prohibits you from using the self defense style or you'll lose the 4% when you switch back to Spy Style, but I'm just letting you know how peeps use it.

Doesn't mean I don't agree with you. I do. It's a weird place for that bonus to be. 

And yeah, there are no passive thrown defense bonuses to be found anywhere in any tree. The Thrown Resistance bonus is borke. These probs are not helping peoples's perception about balance amongst the trees when you can get good passive defense bonuses against all other tactics and all the other resistance bonuses work just fine. 

An MKT gets naturally good Ballistic defense from perception and can find plenty of passive buffs to prebuff the hyperdodge ability, but the gunfighter has broken thrown resistance, typically weak thrown defense from low reason and nowhere to get passive thrown defense buffs.

Oh well, maybe someday thrown resistance will get fixed, passive thrown defense bonuses will get added and enraged and taunt will get fixed. Then maybe we can have a clearer picture on the balance issue.

I do hope...

 

 

PS The Leo, I can't find a single ability in the hacker or patcher tree that buffs or downgrades thrown damage. That's what makes it weird to see the passive buff for thrown damage in the Patcher tree.

 

Exaxtly my point

Dr5mith wrote:

r3spon5e wrote:

PS The Leo, I can't find a single ability in the hacker or patcher tree that buffs or downgrades thrown damage. That's what makes it weird to see the passive buff for thrown damage in the Patcher tree.

 

Exaxtly my point

The Leo and I have already said, the level 50 ability- Upgrade Master includes a buff for thrown damage when you cast it.
If you load up supreme damage resistance with UM, the thrown damage bonus will be applied to the UM buff whenever you dish it out to your MKT buddy on your team.

I don't see why this is so difficult to understand

Isnt Dark Mavericks are recursion faction? this is the syntax recruitment boards...

Which timezone is the 4.00pm start time on?

Dr5mith wrote:

*shyly raises hand.....



please correct me if i'm wrong....and i usually am....but doesn't Initiative play a part in your hitting/not hitting?.....

Belay all the acc/def thing and i find that i get my specials off more with higher init than not.......

Always wondered and this seems like the place where all your knowledge (You...the Beloved Community) could answer the quesiton.


Doc

Initiative would on help if you used Desperation then its value would be added to your Acc while the buff was running. And as Phaydren points out could off set the -100% acc a bit resulting in better results somewhat.

It seems simple in writing I guess...

 

Make each buff set a "blip"

Coders can remove a "blip" from one item and have one "charge" of set "blip"

 Place "blip" on a piece of clothing that has no other buffs.

Done and Done

I think I'll comment on this thread rather than the other- it's hard to discuss things when the thread is set up purely to be negative. I thought that the cinematic was pretty good on the whole, I think it could have maybe been better but that's probably just 'cause I had to wait longer for it! I thought the Seraph bit worked ok, and no I don't think a bit of water is going to affect old wingless- would the Oracle really have let him go to his death when she knew what would happen (as seems evident from crits) I doubt it.

The stuff at the end is intriguing too. I'm not sure dumping the vials is the best course of action, but i think the machines just decided that locking them up wouldn't work, since they were supposed to be secure to begin with so they decided to dilute the power of the vials by dumping them into a large water source. It does make you think about what might happen to the blues who drink that water, but I guess the Agents wouldn't do that unless they thought it was safe. But that one remaining bottle they dropped is a worry- who might get it d'you think?

/Braaaiiinnnnssss.............

YAY!

Wow, i actually created a popular thread.

Why did brewko recycle a mask?

Known issue.

 

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Message Edited by Dr5mith on 10-04-2005 05:16 AM