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Old news, very old bug, known issue...

ok that was a bit harsh.

One a lighter note, I do appreciate you bringing it up.

Hrmm where to start...

First off, yes you always have a chance to be out rolled by a lower level mob/player in CR2.0 though this isn't likely the greater your total Accuracy bonus is and/or Defense Bonus.

After second thoughts I will leave it at that for now... hopefully more to come later.

Please go to the EP Disscussion forum and see my post on Vitailty Influences. The methods I explain there work for all influences granted by stats.

The stacking of passive abilities to make a buff stronger then unloading those abilities then loading your normal load out but your buff not decreasing "on the fly" is at this time By Design.

It should be noted however while it gives a toughness bonus that bonuses increase as the player continues to take damage. This is for both the Prison Mentality Device and Prison Mastery Device, with the difference between them being how much Toughness you start out with and how much you gain per increase over the time you are taking damage.

RemagDiv wrote:
It looks like a disguise in your inventory, and when activated gives you a Toughness bonus for a short while.

Yes LoTekGhost as sometimes happens policy changes.

LoTekGhost wrote:

NoRepro wrote:

That was the response I was given when I queried the devs about the issue at the time. This is the offical position for this bug in regards to clothing or passive abilities.

At this time exploiting the fact that Buffs do not dynamically update is considered a bug. As such, using said bug for gain either in PvE or PvP is considered exploiting. And if caught doing so is subject to the penalities deamed appropriate by CS.

So this official response is no longer correct?

NoRepro wrote: The stacking of passive abilities to make a buff stronger then unloading those abilities then loading your normal load out but your buff not decreasing "on the fly" is at this time By Design.

Just want to clarify. If I'm interpreting it correctly also, it may be a good idea to make an official announcement regarding it's use, as such, an exploit.

To the second part no the buff must be recast inorder for it to be updated.

The end point is Buffs dont dynamically update.

Message Edited by NoRepro on 04-11-200611:38 AM

Yep, its a known issue.

This is a way for player's to find out but I seriously doubt anyone would go through the head ache of doing it.

to accurately gauge accuracy you would need a sample of say 10,000 Speed attacks and record the number of hits this gives you the base line for the speed/style accuracy for a character. Then do the same test but run it against 10,000 uses of the ability you wish to test. compare the number of hits in both cases and the increase % would be the bonus.

And I am not kidding about the 10,000+ samples for the base line and test scenario.

I have the tools to just open the code for the ability and see what it's set for. However my reply was to show how a player could find out for themselves.

Details please...

Loadout (yours/theirs)?

Buff/Debuffs running on you when you die?

Reconstruct through HL or Rez by player?

Level (yours/theirs)?

If you can get it in a controlled environment like away from majorly populated areas?

Does it occur after fighting mobs also or just PvP? also Duels?

Thank you.

Unfortunately the lack of a real animator limts/prevents what we can do.

Lack of an animator on the team limits/prevents us from doing many things.

Thanks Zane that is very informative, thanks to everyone else I will post if I need more information.

Thanks Zane you nailed it. It appears that the extra round of combat (another bug) that occurs at the end of interlock combat is the culprit. because the player can be effected even after they die this ends up flagging you.

noctivagus wrote:

My combat camera is set to 'Static', but everytime bullet-time kicks in it switches back to the default setting of 'Scripted'.
It may not sound like much, but it's an unnecessary annoyance, and extremely off-putting in combat nonetheless.
Have I missed an existing option or config setting to stop bullet-time?

its a known issue.

The only thing that should happen is that the DE timer is refreshed. You should not have stacked penalties and the penalties that are in place should be cleared once the DE timer is completed.

Sounds pretty broken. Will look into it.

well to be honest each mob you kill has varying chances to drop about 2000 different items at the higher levels. Loot tables are not easy to test because of this. However I do know that construct mobs and Dungeon Mobs do drop appropriate level loot. Gang members on the other hand I haven't spent much time simply wiping them out to know.

I can't say specifically because the loot tables are a bit complicated and I am not looking at them as I type this. However it stands to reason your observation is more than likely true. Bosses (3 chevron) type mobs should have a greater chance to dropping desired loot than say a weakling (1 chevron) version of the same mob.

Trebor wrote:
I was unable to add the different types of attacks to the hotbar: speed, power, ect. Is this by design, or is there another way to activate them?
thanks

Currently the hotspot for successfully drag and drop icons onto the hot bar is a bit small. This is a known issue. you can right click an icon on you Action panel and select the "Add item to Hotbar"

A very good question. The reason is that there are some things dealing with already existing animations we can do and/or fix.

Creation of a brand new animation isn't one of these things.

No ability in the game has a cast timer of over 8 seconds

cryshal wrote:

agreed, a ten second preload timer on ANYthing is simply too long.. the type of person that plays a video game to begin with is not the type of person that would like waiting that long, just to perform one action =D

make all timers max 5-6 seconds, and make other adjustments as necessary. that does NOT mean nerfs.

in fact, just shorten the timers a little and leave the rest alone and thatd be great =D then this hurry up and wait hacker pwnage would finally be corrected =)

I have tested this myself, All currently ACTIVE abilities fit into your code archive. If you intend on keeping all the Zen Mastery and now 10 or so abilities that can not be used. That is entirely your descision. All active abilities fit into your code archive however I should mention that now that mail is non-deleting you effectively have a very large player to put stuff. But that not withstanding with discussions about abilities taking place internally "cough" "cough" Org "cough" Abilities "cough" "cough" I have brought the limited Code Archive space to the attention of the Devs.

There are current 448 Active abilities that can be placed into the code archive and only in the neighborhood of 520 spaces available in your Code Archive.

If memory servers Zen Mastery was intended to balance our some of the deficiencies of the MAs.... Doesnt seem to be needed any more imo.

The issue is a known one. Check a patch coming to a server near you.

rfalias wrote:
Well, i like the interlock now, it works great. Except one thing.
Abilities don't seem to execute when i click it, it seems i have to wait till it goes, and thats IF im lucky. I get an ability [say Extreme Falling Kick] off once a battle it seems. I can click them but nothing happens.

Also, block is taking away IS now instead of giving it.

All in all, i like what i see, but the thing with the abilities is my biggest concern, it just seems they dont go off when i want, or expect them to. Perhaps some clarification on how the interlock actually works now?

With the new combat system it is possible to not see your ability's related animation. If the exchange is a Hit/Hit but your opponent wins the initiative your opponents animation for interlock is played even though you will still deal damage.

However if during a round you Hit and your opponent misses and your animation doesn't play this would be a bug to report. (If this occurs please enter as many details into the report as possible)

The problem with the AoE radius was that it was always intended to be increased by a % not by a flat value. Meaning if you had a +5% to radius and your ability was 5m radius to start with the bug was your radius ended up being 10m instead of 5.25m.

In effect any aspect of CR 2.0 is designed if you want something to be alot bigger you have to give up something to get that large bonus. Usually in the way of ignoring other bonuses.

Hey all as was reported recently that some or many people get the "my connection is freaking out" message when they try to start an archive mission. Now most of these missions can be done anywhere while a few are district specific. However I need some help looking into this because they all start fine for my team and me. So I would like some specific information about what is happening around this problem.

Where were you? do a /whereami and distict?
What is your rep for all 3 orgs when it occured?
Which mission is giving you this problem?
Have you completed any mission previously during the current login?
Were you on a team previously?

And add anything else you might think will help to repro this problem. If nothing else I can visit live and give it a try.

Thanks all for the help.

There was an way of using Master Shadow that allowed a player to turn Master Shadow off attack and turn it back on without ANY fear of retaliation. If effect be totally invulnerable to other players if done properly. CR2.0 got rid of zero sum combat specifically to remove this kind of game play element.

That was not the intent of the ability so it was changed to be more inline with its intended design.

What ability are you using? what is its base radius? What is your Debuff Area Radius Bonus? Things I need to know inorder to check stuff! :smileywink:

Sepster wrote:
Ok norepro, now that is very understandable. But try the tree yourself please. Because if what you are saying is true, i should be able to do 21m some odd radius because I have a 23% area radius which only about 5m actually works. Please look into this.

Frink14 wrote:
I don't know if this is a bug or just not implemented. Will we have 10 more slots for a hotbar? Because I would like it if we had a 1A and 1B. So then we have 10 extra slots for abilities, instead it just copy's to the 2nd hotbar with the same slot. Or is this the way it is supposed to be?

change your upper or lower hot bar to another row. Currently when you log in both hot bars are set to row 1 and anything you put on row 1 on the upper hot bar will show up on the lower hot bar if it is also set to row 1.

Roukan - The rep changes only occur if you "join" a crew of a different Org than you woudl be normally flagged for. If you have positive rep Zion but are in a merv crew your rep will only change if you leave and rejoin a crew belonging to a faction that opposes Zion in this example.

I believe the System FM 1500 is a Agent only weapon but then Rarebit may do otherwise at his discretion.

Catch2two wrote:

1:120... That was an insane drop rate.

Not really however it should be noted that both the male and female version each had a 1:120 drop rate.

No Roukan I was just stating what they were before Rarebit changed them.

I would indeed like to see a scope on the sniper rifles.... with that said I am not sure how soon a cosmetic change such as that would be pratical to implement given bug fixes and new content being developed. I guess we need to just wait and see.

In fact mobs do have specific loot tables, the issue is that there are SO many items it seems a bit more random then you would expect.

SO many = a few thousand in most cases.

I used the sim tree and PvP constructs which for the most part are pretty empty.

Known issue

Blazer0x wrote:

Steps to reproduce:

1. Activate Spy Style
2. Activate Spy Style Upgrade
3. Use a hardline
4. Upon coming out of the hardline, Spy Style is gone, and instead replaced with Self-Defense Style.

I assume this is the case with other Styles as well. It is very annoying to have to reactivate my styles everytime I use a hardline or subway.

I also constantly find my Spy Style deactivated and replaced by Sel-Defense at seemingly random times. I know that sometimes if I fire my gun it happens, but also I have been in PVP and in the middle of fighting my Spy Style would go away.

Message Edited by Blazer0x on 04-19-2006 12:33 AM

cryshal wrote:

yes but are you positive of that? no one seems to know how combat tac is checked against accuracy and so on.. and it could be a case of cr2'd, heh. all those influences from vitality are supposed to work.. but they dont =D

If fact the bonuses from your Vitality do work as I have check each one myself due to the other stating they dont. The fact is there may not a be an attribute running on you that receives a boost from these bonuses. This is being looked into.

Secondly, your combat tactics are now no longer 1 all encompassing value. Each player has 4 effective combat tactics, each is represented by your Accuracy for a given damage type.

Melee Accuracy

Ballistic Accuracy

Throw Accuracy

Viral Accuracy

When you use a Tactic Booster the value is added to all 4 Acc Attributes.

When you use an ability against an opponent this is what occurs

Out of Interlock

Combatant 1 <damagetype> Acc vs Combantant 2 <damagetype> defense

In Interlock per round;

Combatant 1 <damagetype> Acc vs Combatant 2<damagetype> defense

and

Combatant 1 <damagetype> defense vs Combatant 2 <damagetype> Acc

If only 1 person uses an ability in a given round depending on which combants uses it;

Combatant 1 <damagetype> Acc vs Combatant 2 <damagetype> defense

or

Combatant 1 <damagetype> defense vs Combatant 2 <damagetype> Acc

If both combatants use an ability in the same round;

Combatant 1 <damagetype> Acc vs Combatant 2 <damagetype> Acc

stsbrad wrote:
norep- ever plan on releasing those loot tables to the public?

In a word... No