RainKingX wrote:

I don't know if this game can be saved, but here are a few suggestions.


6.  Advertise to people when something new happens.  The only time you guys get gung-ho about mass communications is when the game is in a lull.  Something new happens or is about to happen and you guys clam up.

9.  Don't advertise anything until the game is not "buggy".  Ever see a company advertise a "mistake".  It's rare that companies will sell glitches unless those glitches are to the players advantage.  So, why would you advertise a game that is "glitchy".  Are you hoping that it will attract people who've never played an MMO before, never seen a bug or glitch, own a gamer-worthy video card, never heard of MxO and are huge matrix fans?
10.  SOE needs someone who cracks the whip in there.  Developers, artists, and relatively loose timelines are a bad combination.  Hell, they can't even update the forum.  June 10th downtime.  Now that's important information!
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However, unless the WB decide upon another set of movies (spend more money on this concept), it will never be updated.  And it at the pace it's going, it will barren before a decent amount of bugs are eliminated.  Project save MxO. /good luck

I've repeated this to Wreck and the rest of the faction countless times... and no one ever seems to listen/care. This is why the game is failing. It can't and won't get better until these things are changed. Efforts from us like this without efforts from the devs makes this a lost cause, and that's the bottom line.

 As something while annoying or odd might be by design.

with filing /bug reports on bugs and glitchs. It just seems that certian things are not getting worked on as fast as i would like. Certian things which break the fantasy element like the invisible wall at mara SW and the double doors in the elevater near Magog West are just a couple of things that have been around for a long long time and havent been fixed it.

Other bugs are mostly from the combat system which is always been worked on. I send in the reports, and we dont get any word back about it so we just wait the 6-8 weeks for the patch to come hoping that something gets fixed. I mean with how many of the bugs that should be known by now which are found and reported should I just stop reporting them and wait for another year and half before we see fixs or am I just wasting my time?

I've always woundered what this game would be like if things were done slightly different around here...Ever since I first started playing did I want the devs to listen more to what the players want and think rather then what they want and think... It's not about the devs or CSRs it's about the players and I feel we are the only thing that can save this game from dying as most people think it is. I, however, don't think this game is dying I believe people are just tired of not getting what they want. So what I always thought was what if this game was run by the players and the devs just help get the players what they want? It's a crazy thought but all the same a good one... Now what I always thought was what if the players if the vast majority wanted something in the game and the devs didn't have the funding or the man power to make it happen I purpose something be done. If everyone wants something badly enough we should be able to get it if we help fund it. So what I purpose is if alot of people want something that would really help this game I think those players could pay alittle more maybe 10 or 20 bucks more a month to reach a goal which is the content that they want. I also feel that if a large number of players want something the devs should drop everything they are doing and get right on it if the funding is provided by the players and the ideas aswell...

 I for one think that the matrix online is great like it is but it can be so much more. Something alot of vetran players wanted and dreamed about for two years... And the devs should listen to us. Some of us, myself inculded have been through it all. Now mind you I wasn't in the first beta but I did help make cr2.0 better. I've been through it all in this game and even though I feel the devs are doing a good job with events and some bug fixes and other things like missions and stuff... I feel that if alot of the players are willing and able to help this game to be something better then we should be given the opertunity...

Now I'm not rich but if alot more people were behind me I would gladly pay 30 bucks or 25 or whatever a month to get the content we want so badly. As long as I know it's going to what I and alot of other people want then I'm fine with it and I'm sure alot of other players wouldn't mind it either...

This is just an idea that popped into my head, it's not well thought out but it is something I had to share with all of you. Because if alot of people feel they can do nothing for this game but watch the devs give us random content then alot of people are gonna stop waiting for what they want and leave the game. I for one will not be one of these people. I love this game and all of the content in it, however, I cannot speak for everyone.

This is only an idea and I want to know what the rest of the community thinks about it.

Discuss.

Havocide wrote:

I did play this..but I didnt like the community, it was dead. So didnt waste time playing it.

Had potential though.

Where the hell do you play? I have never gone an hour without seeing someone.

Final Fantasy XI is the most hardcore mmorpg around.

But the real problem was drugs.

RainKingX wrote:

You know if you keep this up, I'll give people real reasons not to play this game.  Things that may offend parental sensibilities...esp, in a T-rated game.  And, you won't have to worry about me or anyone posting here.   Now, go away, fanboi.

And once again you post some abstract, incomprehensible bull no one understands.
I don't care what you're trying to threaten me with if you can't even put it into intelligible sentences, and I won't bother trying to figure out.

It's curious how you call someone a fanboi who basically think this game is mediocre and hasn't played for about two months.

Moron.

RainKingX wrote:

zeroone506 wrote:

There was some ignorant dork on external MMO forums who said he knew MxO'd shut down in two months. That was two months ago.

I don't know when that post was dated.  But, the game came out in March and "officially" switched hands in August. Chances are they were in talks long before then.  The guy was probably right.  There were a lot of strategy-guide types that were here in beta.  And, a few said, it wasn't worth it.

Sorry, fanbois.

Um, could you bother to make some sense? I don't get the incoherent babble you're prattling.

Who were in talks? Ah, that's right - "they".

What is a strategy-guide guy? One that writes strategy guides? So guys who wrote strategy guides said the game wasn't worth it? K.

I think you don't get what this is about. He said, he had a "reliable source" that the game was planned to be shut down, so if you want to to argue "that guy's right ya know", you better come up with something better than "so yea, a few years ago the game launched, and there were some peeps who found it sort of bad"

Wow, now this is a truly devastating piece of evidence that the game is going down "at the beginning of the next year" or "in a few months" after being not worth it for such a long time.
We fanbois are truly d00med. 

Stop blethering nonsense.

PS: I created this thread because I thought all servers were down and inaccessible, I've heard that changed anyway so this thread is basically a worthless pile of nothing now.

There was some ignorant dork on external MMO forums who said he knew MxO'd shut down in two months. That was two months ago.

Is the FM-1500 recyclable?

I had to bring my camera in to capture an image for a new icon today, so I figured I might as well get that shot of my office.

Actually, that looks fairly interesting... is that what Walrus's other game is?

Who here plays/has played it?

Alrighty, you people have already seen how "active" I can be when it comes to letting SOE know what I feel about their progress in funding/supporting this game. Then Roukan hit me with something interesting:

Roukan wrote:

1.) Lack of funding is lack of caring on SOE's part. Soe executives don't read these boards.

That's the *CENSORED* truth. So, for you MxO fans who love the game enough to get a message across, join me in my new idea, inspired by Andy Dufresne (if you don't know who he his, step back and re-evaluate your life right now).

Starting next week, I will be writing SOE HQ in Seattle 1 letter a week. Following that week and no reply as to getting some changes done for the game (funding, support, more devs etc), I'll send two letters a week. So on and so on until either I'll be writing one letter a day to SOE or SOE starts showing change.

Some of you may think I'm crazy. Meh, you're entitled to your opinion. So be it. But for those of you who actually care about the game, see what it's going through, and feel it's time for a change for the better, hopefully you will join the cause. Please, for the sake of getting something positive done, if you have something negative to say, please keep it to yourself.

So far, the only Address I found was this one:

Sony Online Entertainment
8928 Terman Court
San Diego, California 92121

That's the corporate office in San Diego. I couldn't find a Seattle address but if anyone can find it, please make it known so I can send a letter there as well.

Should anyone need to contact me as to what I'll be writing in the letter, feel free to add me on xfire Handle is mavemmo

/tiphat

My support for this game ends in July and had I not paid in advance, it would have ended earlier. 
Game over, man, game over.

Do I look like I care?

RainKingX wrote:

Are you one of the people that watches LOST and screams blue murder on the message boards because they haven't yet resolved something when there's still half a season left? 

When you pay monthly, there's no half-a-season.  There's only the month.

What a piece of BS. And what if you pay for three months? Or for a year? I'll tell you what, no one cares how you pay - complaining about something not being resolved after a half or entire season (no difference) of LOST, is as stupid as complaining about unresolved threads in MxO (unless we're talking about dropped LET stuff).

Period. If Night isn't paying for the resolutions next month, apparently she isn't interested in them.

Midnight's been here long enough to know that if you want to pay your money and get a decent resolution at the end of that month, then this is entirely the wrong game. Two years later is not the time to complain about that.

The story is cognitive. Not only that, but it is free.  If players are not happy with the level of participation in a game they are paying for, shouldn't they be free to complain at anytime.  If she's complaining, chances are...she's not the problem.  Players here talk about marketing so much, but they have no idea what that means.  Or, should I say, in this case, you don't know what that means.


1. If it's free, which is true to a high degree, what sense does your previous statement about monthly paying still make? None.

2. Let alone the rights of a paying customer, there are complaints that are nonsensical or hard to comprehend, like e.g. when they're terribly outdated and you don't get "why now".

Chadwick wasn't writing the missions.  He wrote the outlines for the missions.  The devs wrote the missions.  Ever notice that thin missions always coincided with a dev being fired or moved.

Actually, I thought that. Then I brought it up in a thread, and got a direct reply from Rarebit who basically said that he has always been involved in mission writing. A few others did the very first missions that were bundled when the game went live but otherwise it was him and HCFrog. We've lost one of that partnership. Hardly a mass exodus of writers.

Hardly, a mass of writers.  By the way, don't trust everything these guys tell you.  You don't even know what they look like.

But you we're supposed to trust? I also don't know how you look like.
There are things developers say that, in my mind, don't make sense as lies.

So let's sum up, before, it was the LET and a group of 3-5 mission writers including Rarebit writing for Paul Chadwick, now it's only Rarebit and the LESIG.

I think this matter of fact is an according reply to this whole part of discussion.

Anyone found any other download links for this yet?

Yes, which misses the point of having a "game"

Well yes, it's a game. But it's a game which has always had a storyline that has multiple threads that take their time to unfold. Yes OK, so it's happening a lot slower. But it's hardly like it just stopped. Regardless of whether questions have or haven't been answered, there's still more to come.

Fine, again this does not address the game.  It only addresses the storyline.  On a cognitive level, this game has a storyline.  But, take heed, the way players participate in the game and its story is lacking.  Multi-threaded or not, player participation his held to a minimum thereby eliminating it from the "game".  It is purely cognitive in nature.

Midnight's been here long enough to know that if you want to pay your money and get a decent resolution at the end of that month, then this is entirely the wrong game. Two years later is not the time to complain about that.

The story is cognitive. Not only that, but it is free.  If players are not happy with the level of participation in a game they are paying for, shouldn't they be free to complain at anytime.  If she's complaining, chances are...she's not the problem.  Players here talk about marketing so much, but they have no idea what that means.  Or, should I say, in this case, you don't know what that means.

Chadwick wasn't writing the missions.  He wrote the outlines for the missions.  The devs wrote the missions.  Ever notice that thin missions always coincided with a dev being fired or moved.

Actually, I thought that. Then I brought it up in a thread, and got a direct reply from Rarebit who basically said that he has always been involved in mission writing. A few others did the very first missions that were bundled when the game went live but otherwise it was him and HCFrog. We've lost one of that partnership. Hardly a mass exodus of writers.

Actually, the WB continued to lose money in broadband operations as a whole.  They dumped all operations that had something to do with broadband.  This was the easiest target.  There's no coulda or woulda, the game would have ended.  Therefore, all the changes that took place had to do with Sony's inability to fund it to the game's requirements.

If you were here before the takeover, everyone complained that the game was buggy but stuck around because they wanted to be a part of the story.  It was the only "decent" part of the game.  And, as it is now, the dev in charge spends more time trying to hide the LEs than thinking up cool, new ways to express them.  I think the game still exists for "archival" reasons only.

Again, in the post Rarebit put up regarding my point above, if I remember correctly he basically said that the Live Event plans were FAR too over-optimistic.
SOE's inability to fund the game sounds like simple business - Monolith came up with a plan that they rapidly discovered was too expensive to work. SOE took the game over, and did not continue implementing the plan.
You're right, there's no way to say what might have happened had Monolith continued, but as Rarebit - the man in the office - said that the situation was too ambitious, there's only one conclusion I can draw.

I won't bother quoting anyone on my little reply, since a good percentage of you are speaking with no actual knowledge or experience as to how the game was before SOE came along. You are simply defending the game you have come to know, and perhaps like a little. But do not be even slightly confused: The game you log into on a daily basis is not the same game I logged into over 2 years ago. Not even in the same ballpark.

It is always nice to have bugs fixed in the pvp system, and to have a gun which looks a bit clearer and more detailed than it was before, but that in no way is compensation to what we lost when Monolyth sold their fantastic realization of the Matrix to Sony. We lost the story of the Matrix. We lost our ability to really be a part of it.

The way SOE has decided to tell the ongoing story is a joke. You need a script and a tabbed manual to even be able to keep up with it spread over 3 servers. Even when you are THE ORG involved on THE SERVER involved, it is sometimes very unclear exactly what is happening. A far shot from the story quality and amount of content we once had. Events lasted Days... weeks even, not a half hour with some poor LESIG who doesn't speak English very well (bad decision there too... setting that guy up for failure like that, shame on all of you).

What we are left with is a very cool environment with a *ho-humm* combat system with very realistic looking belly buttons. Lots of static in between.

Will it last. Only as long as you keep paying them. I was really hoping that the absence of my monthly fee would have been the one to close the doors. But, as in most things, I was mistaken.

Trouts to you all.

I'd like to ask a question(s) to every person reading these forums:

Do you think personally MXO will ever pick up? After the scale of things went from good to bad to worse to 1hp. Then it began to slowly increase, buddy keys came out and more people joined. Will it ever get the promotion it so rightfully needs? Do you think SOE will take notice if it does increase and staff a few more DEV's? How do you see MXO in a year or two?

Answer by quoting and answering all that i asked please.

My opinion:

I think soon mxo will start to grow, i believe that sometime eventually (a year or so) there will be enough people to allow for some new tools for MXO (server,dev,let etc) It may take that time and other things like self promotion and LP2 but i hope it does happen.

Why are there 2 South Vauxton South Central hardline?

Cloud,

 I dont mean to be negative - i hate whiners - enjoy or quit is my motto but these problems are more than just cosmetic. This game and MMO's in general are about immersion, environment and atmosphere (for me anyway). Persistant bugs like the ones i mentioned ruin the sense of "being in the game".

 I have played many MMO's (EVE, WOW, Planetside, Guildwars to name a few) none of them are perfect, they all have problems but the problems are usually to do with balance or gameplay and they are usually subjective issues rather than game breaking issues.

In my day of playing I have CTD'd twice been stuck on a mission where the NPC i was escorting (i had got to within 100m of my destination/drop off point) vanished and i found myself back in the room where i met them unable to get out. When I run, i skip around moving sporadically regardless of my graphic settings.

When you say the game has improved in terms of balance and gameplay I believe you, I really do but if I can't do the simplest things like move about or take on missions or fight without incurring major bugs how can i really enjoy the game.

Are these comments unjustified, am I the only one to encounter these problems? 

I have paid for a month of MXO and I will do my best to persevere..... I hate to be negative..... I was just disappointed...I apologise if I came across like a whining 10yr old