Ic3b3rg wrote:

TheChainer wrote:

GypsyJuggler wrote:

I'm rather entertained by the Mervs who seem to think their attendance was relevant. 

Numbers numbers numbers.  At least that's what the zerg always said.  I sense... Anger in loss young padiwan.  A dangerous path you tread to the dark side.

Ya, Zion got accused of it on Recursion, so what was the reason machines didnt get the win on syntax? Skill. Nuff said.

Ummm actually, "The reason Machines didn't get the win" could be attributed directly to the fact that the server farted with Ghost at 10% health, if even that, and Ookami at less than 50%. It should have been over right there because most of the "outnumbered Mervs" were also down at that point in time.

Good fight though. Fun times indeed.

Great, my very own rat-tail. =/

 

Rat tail? Pffft..

That's a mullet for someone who isn't fully devoted to the cause.

Dude, female Roca Wear would rule. No models for it so that's not in danger of happening, though.

Maybe I should take the pants off the male gis.

./barf Fem Roca FTL...

And if you take the pants off of a male Gi, well the pantless wonders would have fun. I might even start logging on a regular basis just for teh streak factor.

Huh. Agents appearing out of nowhere to try and kill Zionites.

Difference between male and female gis, or what?

Defective wrote:

Kybutra wrote:

Pants!? Pants!?... who need pants pffffff

Well I mean if fem's want something a little extra underneath then yeah I have to go with Vinia on this with the Lycra shorts or spandex or something like that. Definitely not long pants, keep the Gi's somewhat different at least.

No model support for that, unfortunately. It's either pants or awkwardness.

Hrrrm well then I'd say a vote if there's a way it could be kept to all female RSI's. See what they want and all.

Not to try and sound chauvenistic but if it came to a choice between pants and as is, I'd rather see it stay as is to keep a little difference.

Pants!? Pants!?... who need pants pffffff

Rarebit wrote:

TonyJaa wrote:

...we are going to have lvl 50 gi's right??

Beats me. How high do they go now?

The highest i've seen is lvl 40 armored..It was an amazing white/black!

They go to 50:

 -DesperAuto

When Michael Myers has unprotected sechs with a Resevoir Dog, on the next Jerry Springer.

Liliane wrote:

Roukan wrote:

Foxxdie wrote:

Roukan wrote:

Rawr.

I didn't think we were supposed to post pictures of our girlfriends also!

Pfft, that's my backup girlfriend.

[00:50] Roukλn: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...fe/Image002.jpg
[00:50] {DA} Liliane: ARGGG!
[00:50] Roukλn: What/
[00:51] {DA} Liliane: sasquatch?
[00:51] Roukλn: THAT'S MY HAND
[00:51] {DA} Liliane: o
[00:51] Roukλn: -_-
[00:51] {DA} Liliane: ^_^ nice hand!
[00:51] Roukλn: All the better to molest you with....
[00:52] {DA} Liliane: eek!
[01:04] Roukλn: *spank* *flee*
[01:04] {DA} Liliane: SASSSSSQUAAAAATCH!
[01:05] Roukλn: Whatever, you like it.

Now you all know, Liliane is my primary girlfriend.

This is not even close to being new nor out of the ordinary. Any and all NPC's that have Aikido use Iron Body and this of course increases their melee and ballistic resistances for a period of time, then you notice you're doing more damage (because it wore off) and they use it again.

 This has also gone on for much longer than with the new EC quest. Tengu has had this on Sakura for ages and I believe even some mission NPC's (non Commando) use it as well. They may also mix in Consistant Technique though I'm not positive but I do seem to remember having removed that from Tengu with Machinegun Fist Combo before.

Posted here: http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/..._id=36300014665 by Arcanaloth on 07/17/07:

"I think this should put to rest any complaints MKT's have about accuracy. I think many of them still expect to be able to roll everything like the old broken system.

YOU NOW HAVE TO EARN YOUR KILLS, deal with it."

Again, as I said in your little tirade in the Code Shock thread, log off the forums, find a DECENT MKT and ask them to duel. I left that post alone because you implied that I should fight a good MKT and see what happens.....well, I HAVE. I didn't respond to you there for two reasons:

1) That topic had nothing to do with MKT and my post was done by comparisson yet you felt the need to again cry about the tree.

2) It's pointless because it's becoming painfully obvious that you and others who share your opinion will not take the time to do exactly what you suggest while ignoringwhat people are suggesting you do to better yourself.

No one is denying that MKT has high accuracy yet as Anxiety said MKT does not have the ability to run specials in succession like MA does such as Wooden Dummy Drill and Dim Mak or Machinegune Kick, nor does it have the ability to do a few hundred points damage to multiple targets or even hit multiple targets with one attack IE a lot of the hacker trees.

You said it yourself, no passive buff gives thrown defense or resistance. Awakened abilities do so use them.

It's terrible because conversations like this are freaking pointless because something will be done to mess with one tree and people like you will say things like what I transferred from the other topic only to have you come right back and claim that it's not good enough.

Save the gloating, log off the damned forums and practice.

Defective wrote:

Sphairo wrote:

Okay, let's take alook at this ability;

Code shock
IS cost: 56
Reuse timer: 60 seconds (1 minuite)
Effects: Stun, daze, stagger, offbalance, confuse - 5 secs

---

This ability, really need's to have its effects legnthened. The problem is not only does it use 56 IS (which is ALOT), the states do not stay on long enough for you really to do anything with it.  Also, the reuse is waaaaay too long, 1 minuite for a few seconds? It renders the ability useless at the moment, hence why no-one uses it, like, ever. Let's take a look at a similar ability, bearing in mind code shock requires you to be level 47.

Suplex:
IS cost: 50
Reuse timer: 38 secs
Effects: Stagger, daze, off balance - 15 seconds

You need to be 27 to use this ability, and it's halfway down the tree compared to code shock, similar effects, but look at the reuse timer and effect time legnths, they are three times that of the code shock ability. WHY??????

Please increase the effect timer to make it useable again! ( Comments and thoughts appreciated as always ">  )

spha x

 

Good points, and while we're looking at this let's look at the rest of hacking where one can hit with an ability such as Code Shock, Area Disruption or Freeze System and then drop up to like 6 DoT's on an oponent only to take flight while the target rots. My opinion, they redid some of the timers on MKT a while back, they should do the same for the family timer on DoT's unless they want to start giving out wands and Wizard hats as enhanced apparel.

 

 -DesperAuto

Freeze System is pacify, which breaks on damage, hence after the first DOT does its first tick of damage you can act again. Area Disruption is 3 seconds of stun, enough for 2 DOT's. Code shock has a cast timer so long I have a 5 o'clock shadow by the time it hits, hence you have plenty of time to break my shield (At least) or even IL me before I can get you with it. Either way, if the hacker manages to get a pile of DOT's on you then they earned it.

All of the code infections share family timers, Area infections are on different timers and same with Plague zones. This means if someone wants to stack a lot of DOT's quickly they have to drain a lot of IS (On using area infections), and straddle between Ravager and Destroyer.

Code Shock needs to have the States on it increased in time, it only works when used with teamwork, the hacker sure can't take advantage of Daze, Stagger or Off Balance.

Correct me if I'm wrong but with CR2, Hacker class was supposed to take a support role instead of a Pwn Wizardry role. We are afterall in The Matrix and not some kind of 1400's Mage oriented game. Last I check there were exactly 0 people typing into the air and creating damage or anything else for that matter in the movies or story pre game in general, but I'm sure you can come up with some kind of explanation for that one.

Bottom line, what I was trying to get at with my first post was this: Everyone gripes about MKT yet no one ever says anything about the debuffs that Hacker can give or the specials that can be run in succession with Martial Arts. It's always "OMg MKT is way too powerful!" Well guess what? You're getting hit by knives. It's going to hurt and slow you down. Someone attacks you when you don't expect it? Going to do a helluva a lot of damage. But instead of actually learning out to fight let's all just gripe about a tree on message boards instead of taking the time to learn tricks against other classes. It's muct easier that way On the few who choose that route I'm sure.

Parting word of advice: Log off the forums and into game. Find a better than average MKT, ask them to duel some and find what works. It is VERY beatable and I myself among others have shown that gunners can have a lot of success against MKT's.

You're welcome.

I know I'm opening up the hive's nest about complaining about a MKT move, but this has gotten sort of ridiculous. 

Stagger Throw Specs:

~Takes around two-three seconds to cast.

~Only used in outside of combat.

~45 IS Cost.

~190 D.P.S. Thrown

~50% Chance Staggered for 12 seconds.

~Have to be either stealthed or in a disguise to use it.

Staggering Throw is probably the most annoying move in the game when used against you. This move has the possibility of hitting at least 1,000 damage (unless you're geared against a MKT which usually means you're weaker in everything else.)

The only "balancing factors" this move has going for it is the fact you have to do the attack in sneak (or disguise) and at close range. In PvP, this move is godlike considering all you have to do is pop a disguise and just wait for the move to go through. Although not so effective in duels because it's a 1 on 1, but in the field it's rather tedious to combat.

"Wait?" Did I say, "Wait"? This move takes all of what, three seconds to go through? FAR takes a good while as well as Sniper Shot. It's even more tedious for them because the time it takes for the ability to go through is well over 5 seconds which gives the target time to hide behind cover or the what not (trust me I hide from FARs all the time). This move is fast and extremely deadly.  

What's not balancing about this move? It has NO state requirement. Tell me what ability in this game can hit 1,000ish damage on the average with no state required or buffs/debuffs to a level 50 out of interlock. I sure don't. It's not only that, but this move hits almost about every *CENSORED* time, and it's not only that but it has that chance to stagger which no doubtedly means you're going to be powerlessed in the next few seconds.

The MKT's arguement over this is the fact, "Well just wear resistance and it only does about 500 damage which is pretty poor." while the counter from other player classes is the fact most 'PvP Gear' isn't exactly Thrown Resistance entitled. I even have my own outfits for each resistance. Ballistics/Melee/Viral resistance outfits usually don't have much changing between them, but when it comes to MKT I have most of my entire outfit redone to battle the MKT scourge.

So what do I say about balancing it? The least you could do is either:

#1: Make it longer to go through.

#2: Make the move easier to miss.

Any suggestions, complaints, or comments is welcome.

-EDIT

I decided to go ahead and test the damage with a familiar MKT I know on Syntax, Shickle. To my knowledge Shickle is a MKT who mainly wears resistance clothes/IS Regen with no damage buffs. I am also using my Melee Combat Training load, where accuracy is never a problem thus I tend to wear clothes more centered around resistance.

Here I am with 0 Thrown Resistance. I didn't even bother with a status bonus screenshot because apparently when you have 0 resistance, the stat bonus doesn't even show up.

That's high, but then again I'm wearing 0 Resistance.

 

Here I am wearing my normal clothes for taking on someone with guns. My thrown resistance is considerably low.

 

The damage dealt.

 

Close to 900 damage. Pretty powerful.

Here I am wearing my outfit to fight MA's, which usually gives me around 200 Ballistic + 200 Melee resistance. With some pretty nice Melee Defense.

 

The damage dealt.

 

735 is considerably lesser from 1,000. Keep in mind I'm wearing mainly resistance clothes.

Here is me wearing my full anti-MKT gear giving me about over 200 thrown resistance points.

The damage dealt.

 

645 damage. I had about 150ish resistance in the other specs in trying to get the thrown resistance up that high. I didn't even bother with defense (excluding the Quicksilvers).

What about the classes who can't mainly base themselves around resistances and use mainly accuracy clothes instead? They get pounded from around 1,000 on average.

I just can't help but look at what's in your buffer and think that you're limiting yourself to be honest.

The "ZOMFG I R buffed to teh nutz" KF master load and only one hyper defensive/resistance ability in the screens you posted. Those abilities exist for a reason so if you're going to go all offense don't expect much defense or resistance outside of clothing.

Okay, let's take alook at this ability;

Code shock
IS cost: 56
Reuse timer: 60 seconds (1 minuite)
Effects: Stun, daze, stagger, offbalance, confuse - 5 secs

---

This ability, really need's to have its effects legnthened. The problem is not only does it use 56 IS (which is ALOT), the states do not stay on long enough for you really to do anything with it.  Also, the reuse is waaaaay too long, 1 minuite for a few seconds? It renders the ability useless at the moment, hence why no-one uses it, like, ever. Let's take a look at a similar ability, bearing in mind code shock requires you to be level 47.

Suplex:
IS cost: 50
Reuse timer: 38 secs
Effects: Stagger, daze, off balance - 15 seconds

You need to be 27 to use this ability, and it's halfway down the tree compared to code shock, similar effects, but look at the reuse timer and effect time legnths, they are three times that of the code shock ability. WHY??????

Please increase the effect timer to make it useable again! ( Comments and thoughts appreciated as always   )

spha x

Good points, and while we're looking at this let's look at the rest of hacking where one can hit with an ability such as Code Shock, Area Disruption or Freeze System and then drop up to like 6 DoT's on an oponent only to take flight while the target rots. My opinion, they redid some of the timers on MKT a while back, they should do the same for the family timer on DoT's unless they want to start giving out wands and Wizard hats as enhanced apparel.

 -DesperAuto

If I remember right, at least on the 0.4 Scrambler, you have to get the permission set and then a frag to write the actual tool. I think that one comes from the single level 65 Agent spawn.

As for the Gloves, once you get and use the Quicksilver Luggable, you should just upload nad be able to write them because I believe it gives you 2 of the frags that are needed to write them. If for some reason you can't write the gloves, leave word and I'll send you a pair because I have a spare frag or 4.

Jax wrote:

Reeverb wrote:

odj wrote:

((I have to ask, was he meant to die? ))

(( I don't think he was supposed to, no. When I arrived the bar was full of Zion NPC's so I got to in to sneak, sneaked downstairs and saw Royin and the bluepill JohnSomething lying dead on the floor. I figure Royin ran down without sneak, thus being noticed by the NPC's who then killed the bluepill and Royin.

I think we were supposed to kill the NPC's before running downstairs. =) ))

((Hurray for our mission being messed up! They didnt post the screen where I ask Crytos to step down..... They did however include where I said Veil should lead us not him which is good. Overall I pretty much had no clue what this was even about.......I give it a 4 out of 10, only because Syntax has to wait forever to get a freaking Cyph event and then we get this.....))

What a waist of resources Cryptos.....

(( I wouldn't say the event sucked, not at all. It depends on what will be done with the adress on the card. I was kinda hoping to get an event that would go in on the breaking of the truce but with this adress-event, it could lead, hopefully, to a nice side story so we can get a couple of events in a row that all have to do with each other. That'd be cool. =)
If we'll never heard about the adress again then yeah, that'd be a good loss of something that could've been better.
But even if the event got a bit messed up and the bluepill wasn't supposed to die that's still alright in my book. It's like finding a corpse at a crime scene where you get a hint to who might have murdered the guy. That's why I'm hoping this will continue. ))

Defective wrote:

 

Dammit! I just failed on another pair!

Are you sure you're getting buffed?, i've never seen a buffed pair in my 2 years of playing

Wait, you're telling me they don't exist?

Hmmm, that probably explains why I can't decompile them.

Dammit! I just failed on another pair!

GoDGiVeR wrote:

GoDGiVeR wrote:

ChloeaAnn wrote:

HAPPY BIRFDAYYYYYYYY

That's what she said.

And that's my birfday present Quote Tree

Thanks! <3

Aboard the HvCft Insolence, DesperAuto sinks back into his seat

" I knew it Slayde, this was why I griled his *CENSORED* in front of Haigen a few months ago after some questionable tactics during a standard operation. I knew what he was then and he just proved it beyond any doubt. He was never about anything but himself and that's exactly what hes still after, the reconning. "

 Slayde's head lowers

" So what now J? I know full well we're not going to let him and his new friends get away with this. No way we're just going to let him pull some shi....."  DesperAuto hold his hand up and smiles

" Enough Amigo. I've had some past dealings with ID and I know damned well they're already planning something. They've been around too long not to be doing so. We'll get with Sil and see what he thinks, mix our opinions with his. We still have the X factor on our side with Exploits anyway, really no need to be overly worried because Nicho just did little more than sign his own death warrant. "

Slayde smiles and looks up

" So....when? " He asks

" Sooner than Nicho would like and you never know. We may have a few more tricks up our sleeves as well. Nicho chose poorly by aligning himself with they who have enmies even within their own side. This could end up being fun. "

DesperAuto stands from the Captain's seat and walks towards his quarters. Smiling he says aloud "No true Cypherite gets offed by a Zionite. You should have stayed dead while you had the chance but now you'll come to find what pain really is......"

Defective wrote:

Sphairo87 wrote:

Defective wrote:

Havocide wrote:

Xintax wrote:

A bit hard when you're hyperjumping all over the place,
as DesperAuto mentioned earlier..

Oh we was in IL for about 5mins before we almost killed each other. Hence why he should learn to kill me faster.

You mean when you and Fuscienne were both on me? And as soon as 2 other Cyphs showed you two jumped?

 

Hence, you should learn to fight if you're going to run the mouth.

Who's your main in game?

Welcome back Bloodlust, we have some things to discuss in the simulation, I'll call you.

~ Sphairo

My character in question is DesperAuto with a whopping 220 +/- CQ's. Still enough to make him jump.

 

My main is of little relevance.

Heh I fight how I want to, so eat it.

No thanks. To say you're not my type would be a hugh understatement.

Now take your balls and jump home.

Guess I should have been two high levels and picked up that signal  booster...... I could have saved us all I am sorry..... Well at least now you know you should probably come out with a hotfix for those before touching one again lol. It was fun to run into an invisible wall though Ill say that.

Thanks for making me laugh 9mm.

Like I said before you pwn all. Guess I shouldnt have threatened to beat you up and take your clothes, cuz you destroyed everyone in one move you surely are greater then Noe.

-Jax

Defective wrote:

Havocide wrote:

Xintax wrote:

A bit hard when you're hyperjumping all over the place,
as DesperAuto mentioned earlier..

Oh we was in IL for about 5mins before we almost killed each other. Hence why he should learn to kill me faster.

You mean when you and Fuscienne were both on me? And as soon as 2 other Cyphs showed you two jumped?

 

Hence, you should learn to fight if you're going to run the mouth.

Who's your main in game?

Welcome back Bloodlust, we have some things to discuss in the simulation, I'll call you.

~ Sphairo

My character in question is DesperAuto with a whopping 220 +/- CQ's. Still enough to make him jump.

My main is of little relevance.

Xintax wrote:

A bit hard when you're hyperjumping all over the place,
as DesperAuto mentioned earlier..

Oh we was in IL for about 5mins before we almost killed each other. Hence why he should learn to kill me faster.

You mean when you and Fuscienne were both on me? And as soon as 2 other Cyphs showed you two jumped?

Hence, you should learn to fight if you're going to run the mouth.

Welcome back BloodlustV.

Also, I for one would love to see a duel to the death between Havocide and Bloodlust himself...Somewhere Havocide can't jump.

- Ð

Defective wrote:

Havocide wrote:

Defective wrote:

Havocide wrote:

Welcome back, I guess?

Disappointed that you now have yet another person you'll have to jump away from?

No need to jump from him. He's easy.

Oh yeah?

 

I'd be willing to put $ that in a 1 on 1 duel he smokes you. Name your price.

Hehe, well when he finaly agrees to a duel, sure.

Defective wrote:

Havocide wrote:

Welcome back, I guess?

Disappointed that you now have yet another person you'll have to jump away from?

No need to jump from him. He's easy.

Oh yeah?

I'd be willing to put $ that in a 1 on 1 duel he smokes you. Name your price.

Welcome back, I guess?

One male Spoken for. Will email you the $, jujst send the coat at your earliest convinience please.

 -DesperAuto

Defective wrote:

Havocide wrote:

supremegonkage wrote:

The Matrix shall be Cleansed

And all Acts of Terrorism will be Dealt with Accordingly.

Come 'ere then. Lemme cleanse you HavoJump away when there's even numbers.

Fixed

Hehe, anything is better than DE.

supremegonkage wrote:

The Matrix shall be Cleansed

And all Acts of Terrorism will be Dealt with Accordingly.

Come 'ere then. Lemme cleanse you HavoJump away when there's even numbers.

MY white mask is still a go though, right?

Oooooh the possibilities......

Join teh ID now!

Yup, the constant emp field would 'kill them' =P



Besides, one of the key points of New Zion is it cant be drilled to.

Who said they had to drill where the EMP fields are?

A Cypherite Hovercraft traveled right to the drop point. Seems to me that they could easily circumvent the fields and still get to the city by use of the Diggers.

*edit* I see where you said it can't be drilled to, this is not likely seeing as how tunnels were dug to get to the new city. There would almost definitely be a path to avoid the EMP's.

Finality's out due to circumstances involving serious stupidity.

Keep the entry fee Kellner. Pretty obvious through certain factions methods and actions that they need it a hell of a lot more than any of this faction ever will.