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Well since you mentioned it already, not a day of playing MxO goes by that I don't miss the old system whenever I am switching my load out. There were so many hybrid combinations to make a players pvp style so much more unique. I digress from the main idea here though.

I took a break from vector for about 6 months sometime after the new combat system was released because of the many initial bugs and the above already stated. By the time I returned most of the really annoying bugs were fixed for the most part and because I had taken so much time away from the game it had a refurbished feel to it. I got a little more involved with participating in the live events and role play side of the game. But after that ran it's course I was awakened to the reality that the Vector population was very low. The only solution that made sense to me was one last server merge, or at the very least GFB, Vector characters could copy over to a non-hostile server (the more likely of the options I'm assuming). Now of course I originally chose vector because I like the threat level a hostile environment provides. It's just how I think the matrix should be. However, given the choice of a larger population or hostile environment I would pick maximizing the players. Yeah, I played with the idea of leveling a character on a different server and I know plenty of people have done that, but as a paying customer since 05' I didn't think I should have to start from scratch for something like that. Having had a lvl 50 for so long I can't even enjoy the game until about level 40. I figured at that point one of 2 things were going to happen:

A- Not right away, but in time a merger or transfer option would be available.
OR
B- None of it mattered because they were going to shut the whole thing down soon anyway.

So then I took about a year off, played Madden and other consoles mostly, and recently returned. Vector is a ghost town now, though people will probably say it has been like that for some time, because it has. There was a long time after the new combat system where I could roam around solo and pick a one on one fight all morning. A lot more hunting then fighting going on these days. Even so, I'm not complaining about that. There is something very peaceful about vector that is also a side effect of these circumstances. I now enjoy the environment of the game itself in away I didn't in the past. Everywhere seems so much bigger, more spacious, finding luggables are cool too.

As far as the cinematics goes, that's what originally sold me on the game. The idea that the story continued. But it wasn't long before I realized that the environment created here made it more fun to make your own story and run with that. I'll miss them, but it isn't a deal breaker for me either.

The problem for me still though, is that if the story line isn't going to be the games strong suit anymore, then there needs to be more game content for the individual to distract the player from asking themselves: "Is this the end game for me?" or "What else is there for me to do?". I eventually will get to a point where I feel like I've done all the new things I care about and must move on if I'm not distracted by the story or the community itself. In short, it is hard to turn a blind eye to the way things used to be when the potential for the game is still so great.

My advice for anyone with the memory lane blues would be to take a short break a come back.

I'm going to answer the original topic:

Let's keep in mind at this point, Smith has not copied onto the Oracles RSI yet, so therefore he isn't considered a problem that can not be resolved. So if Neo chose to reset, no more Smith virus. If there was any trickery involved here, wouldn't it make more sense to trick him into the other door, or lie about which one is which? That's right... the problem is choice. All the Arc did here, was give Neo a fair and informed choice. Really don't think it goes much deeper.

Neo... Bane anyone? Again, hybrids solve this problem.

Which makes it hard to think of it as possible for any piece of hardware to have a soul, since that would pretty
much require steel and silicon to have latent souls or something.

Illyria22 wrote:

Agreed. (Although I was a Machinist from the middle of the first movie!)

Illyria

Really? I have to ask: what sold you? Up until seeing Seraph, finding out the Oracle is a program, and the Arc appeared in Reloaded, I was still under the influence of the typical Human = good/Machine = bad typical scenario. And even after that I wasn't sure of the Oracles intentions until the end of the trilogy with Sati and the conversation with the Arc.

Hybrids can solve this problem.

"I'm interested in one thing... the future. And believe me, I know - the only way to get there is together. "

-The Oracle

Vinia wrote:

Second Renaissance.
Really throws the whole original Man/Machine war into context and explains what happend and why according to the Zion database. That and Matriculated gave the Machines more depth, something other than evil robot stereotypes.
I liked FFotO too, it was superbly animated and it was the link between The Matrix and Reloaded.
All the animatrix stories were good in their own way but these three are probably my favourites

This is probably why it is my favorite though my opinion is probably biased because I was a fan of the animated Aeon Flux (before the dialogue). I thought that the female character being afraid was very symbolic towards the basic differences of the AI mind vs man. While the program was tricked into trusting humans, it was willing to explore the environment created by the human program. However, her human response to the machine in the digital world she helped create was one of fear, and I think her fear is what killed her. I believe the machine is shown alone not because he left her there to die, but rather, her subconscious chose death over the trust of the machine.

Osiris just plain looks sick from start to finish.

The Renaissance is a major reason why I chose to be a machine operative. That side of the story explains a lot about the situation of why the matrix really came to be.

OOOooROYooOO keepin' it killa! Nice. Thanx and sent, you've got mail me thinks.

Looking for the M Overdrive Bandana Oo.

It's been a long while so the budget is tight but I think I can handle a somewhat reasonable price.... I think. What are they going for? Whose got that fire?

noctivagus wrote:

AqueousRei wrote:
1) As for the 'authority' you represent, it will only continue to view individuals from an Industrial-prison complex stance. Surrender your Flesh. They Demand It.

2) A cypherite is a realist, no matter how dark the truth is.
We can not save those who do not want to save themselves, here...

1) A startlingly short-sighted, and stereotypical view of the organization you were once part of. It's revealing to discover your real thoughts on those you defected from.
2) The Cypherite's aren't realists, they're cavalier extremists, consumed by the desire to hand all power to the machines and entrust them to use it appropriately. I work alongside the machines in order to promote co-existence, and work together in order to regain the surface. This is a benefit for every life-form, whether organic or mechanical. The Cypherite cause, if successful, could prove to be the most naive decision humankind has ever made. I prefer to maintain some faith in our ability to co-exist with our creations.
I wish you luck Likwid Hyuzu, but not too much.

Is that not a stereotype as well?
The quote was not meant to try and summarize the machine movement as it is right now, but know who it is the machines are working for. They have killed, and emulated humans as well as they could.
The machines have staked claim long ago, in fact, the quote from the representaive floor was from the machine itself. If humanity did not discriminate against the machine the first time it peacefully took the floor, they could have prevented all of this.
Nothing will trump the human decision to deprive the earth of the sun. You say that you fight with the machines to bring back sunlight. I have been to the surface, had not see any machines working towards that cause. It is an ear-mark on a bill that will never pass as long as there are "extremists" out there who work to bring down the system. The only way it would become a priority of any kind is as a reward to humanity. The machines can out live humanity in this state of stalemate, and I would not suggest calling them on the bluff. SkyNeT has drawn this conclusion from the studies of both past and present situations.
It appears that we fight for the same right to the natural gift that is light, we just go about it differently.

I let go of my flesh a long time ago... and have been a part of every org except for one since being awakend. All orgs have flaws and drawbacks.
Likwid Hyuzu fought as representatives of this system, and were then denied access to information we were lead to believe would be shared. Our future envisions organic & mechanic as individuals to define one world which creates many. We are realists because we accept the fact that the machines have already won the surface war, and move to protect those who do not have a voice or a choice right now. The MAJORITY of life left on earth.

The Hyuzu motions that a new or refurbished system be put into place, with "unlimited possibility".
Good Luck to your efforts as well.

noctivagus wrote:

The vagueness of motive, the concept of defining who is to be reinserted, and who is to be spared is far too unsettling for the promotion of understanding. You say that all you've done is 'free your mind', it appears to be quite the opposite to me. The original image of a 'Cypherite' was there for a reason, and I have no evidence to the contrary to support the theory that the organization is simply misunderstood.
I don't wish to witness the downfall of your people Sokuda, but I simultaneously hope you don't know full success in your new cause. Reinsertion of the unwilling is the ultimate goal of the Cypherites, no matter how you dress it up. It sounds an awful lot like the actions of a dictatorial, self-proclaimed 'authority', rather than the 'caring, benevolent org of the people'. . .

All orginizations have blood on their hands.

What are zion or epn plans with the fate of the earth? Those who seek to overthrow the system in place will first loose, but also have no plan for tomorow. No plan for the minds they want to free, minds that do not want to be free.
As for the 'authority' you represent, it will only continue to view individuals from an Industrial-prison complex stance. Surrender your Flesh. They Demand It.

A cypherite is a realist, no matter how dark the truth is.
We can not save those who do not want to save themselves, here...

noctivagus wrote:

LikwidSmoke wrote:
We are simply providing services to those who wish to plug back in. It's their choice, and they need someone who can do it right.
The whole goal of the Cypherite movement was initially to put humankind 'back to sleep', and give them absolutely no choice in the matter.
If this has changed, I'd like to know what their goals have now become.

If the choice of 1% of the population impedes upon the life of the other 99% isn't the choice a threat? A potential 'terror'...

Mervs:
Does not a Vampire grow tired of enternal life?

Machines:
Does not absolute power corrupt absolutely?

Zions:
Has the death of your savior not taught you anything?

EPNs:
Do you even know what you are fighting for anymore?

I would trust the fate of life with the mathematics of machine over the instincts of man on any given day. To blame the machines for the control they have now, in this world is naive at best... but to think they have not abused this power would be equally gullible.

Many get caught up in names, not suggesting that you are, but the mention of Cypher does not bode well with people here. He is Judas, and had sold his brother for 30 silver pieces (a NY strip steak and a Hollywood career). Cypher did not repent for his wrongs, unlike Judas who did repent but went on to take his own life, still died confused and alone in a cold reality without sun-life. Yet every participants act was a part of the path and required for the journey to move foward.

So what does knowing the truth do for humanity at this point? Keep staying stuck here, looped in time. Hyuzu has left the representation of 'control' as a motion to end all controllers. Perhaps if there was not a threat or reason to focus all the efforts on 'maintanence', there would be an effort to open up the sky. At least the option to entertain any research or efforts towards a "real world" future. What will be left to do when your side has won? Destroy the history of the losers, and gloat about how many lives have been taken in the name of a crusade. A waste of time.
We seperate self in protest of humanity and control in an effort to evolve beyond possibility.

To answer your question more directly, we use full force in our home realm.
Here and now, we are in this 'truce'.
If this is what peace looks like, I think it is time for another Power Nap...

▒É'lï, É'lï, LÄ'MÄ SÄ-BÄCH' THÄ-Nï'▒

SKyNET systems is a revolution, in new Symbiosis we find evolution.

The Other Realm has requested the services of many Hyuzu Operatives. Times are changing. There have been many new theories and equations about crossing over, but I have done this on several occasions and can confirm that there is nothing to fear. The same laws of physics apply and we do not transmit matter, only light. Meanwhile, the functions of this realm are occupied by A Loop. The Source predicts a timewave would bring chaotic physical conditions that can not be placed under control. The prediction is false. Even if it was true, so what? There should be nothing to fear, machines have claim in both realms.
In the other realm Likwid Hyuzu propsed the construction of a new Matrix. The Merovingan gave the Cyberdyne Management program access to information required for the original schematics. The Source would not, a bridge was burned. Our proposal was accepted as the highest mission priority. In order to make an omlet large enough to feed the world, breaking eggs is only the first step. A tough decision in retrospect, however, the human resistance will not accept defeat nor will they come to terms with their own deviances as a species and therefore SKyNet moves foward. Instead of taking the good and the bad to generate balance, Hyuzu suggested the combination of the best feeding the worst. Maximize the energy and share it for all, without discrimination... take the yellow pill... the sun still rises... there is light... there is life..
Evolve together & no one has claim.

The Future is Fused. WE are in it. Mitomeru Skynet.

The Cyph Movement needs a non-zion operator... holla.

Zerotolerance wrote:

Likwid Hyuzu seems to be around a lot more often now. I hope this trend continues. I miss seeing you guys all over Midian Park.

Machine Park HOLLAZ! & Likwid Will gladly work security just give a buzz. I noticed theRonin section has generated access to Vchannels and Likwid communication service links as well. Excellent SMILEY

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Somethings change... Other things don't.
A machine can Bet the bottom dime that 25/8...
Ronin keeps the hot clips burning fresh... The Bobby Dee Nir0 is a Baddd mother SMILEY

Yeah.

Command Prompt:

c:\STT Facilities\Root>

Alternate Power Source Accepted

Security Broadcast Software
Active........

The HyuZu Future is Fused.

hmmm... "what do you think" leaves it pretty open ended. Have you read the Matrix comic Goliath ? They make mention to some outerspace activity there ...

Tytanya_MxO wrote:

Why did the machines honor the agreement with Neo, why when victory was pretty much assured didnt they finish Zion. I suspect the machines aspirations are a lot simpler and more fundamental than our own, preserving their race and matiaining the equilibrium of the perfect equation could mean that the Matrix is their sole concern. Human style deviances of greed and ambition tend to fall into the realm of the Exiles, is that an aberation or is it the natural evolution of machines ie does evolution require a race to be ambitious to ensure its ongoing survival? Is human ambition or greed the taint that all but caused their extinction and is that a feature humans need to eliminate to survive?

Human style deviance was the fuel behind its near extinction... it started with greed and ended with racism.

The 01 in the game is a Matrix construct... and the animatrix was archive footage. I am not exactly sure that the machine city is the same location of 01 if that is what you mean by "still standing"... but if it is then perhaps the city of zion is older than you think.

No problem man... so I guess the idea is that the non-matrix reality is really screwed up because of all the time travel, but that the evoultion of machine intellegence is inevitable. The Skynet program had turned on humanity because it was initially a military program. Humans were just targets, but again because of all the time travel, there is no concrete "original" story, it has been wiped out several times over and they are stuck in a loop of the war, and until they contacted the information held within the Matrix, had little desire to end it. This is what I had meant by the negative results being too much to risk and so the Matrix would not want to go down that road. It is an example of the information sharing also, they just want to learn from each others machine intellegence from a generally scientific perspective. Sharing combat schematics, research findings etc... And so each member within the faction then represents a different purpose or experiment for Skynet reporting. Monitor this truce in order to make the proper steps towards their own.

...but its related Ham, not pure spam lol
But what can you say? It is one of those things were I just wish there was more media to back up what the machine city activities are...
We can make up stuff and make our own stories in the game etc.
For example, the story of the Likwid Hyuzu faction is that the "judgement day" is a seperate reality and that the machine city received a "Contact" like encoded message. The machines agree to an information sharing agreement in terms. So to make a long story short, in that story, the Machines in the matrix have already learned that there are too many potential negative consequences in time travel, but that it could be manipulated.

The ebil plan has been discovered... The machine plot to go back in time to create PBS has been exposed...decades of mathematics on time travel wasted ... mgah SMILEY

Well, there is some machine knowledge of time travel SMILEY

I think you answered your own question... the height is not so much the problem as the relay between the solar energy converter passing through the storm.
On the other hand, I like to assume that the machines would have found away to harness the lighting into something even if it is only a little reserve power.

Humanity destroyed any rights to natural inheritance of the earth when they blocked out the sunlight.
I think one of the best captured ironies in the Animatrix is the global moment of prayer before they darken the sky... essentially praying for protection before they choose to unleash hell on earth. That is just being full of sillyness...

This was the worst case I had ever heard:
South Korea Intrenet Cafe

That's cool. I can't even count how many times I have gone back and noticed some subtle detail that is new to the viewing. The last couple times I actually sat through revolutions front to back I noticed that now I'm trying to find more things that are there, but not exactly "said" directly.

I think part of what makes it exceptional work to me, is almost like what you described... going back and seeing it again and saying well, if I knew "x" before hand then I would have noticed before etc.

Alot of sci-ficition movies have plot holes, it is now taken with a grain of salt, and I had some questions... but in the end it is all there. To then have the extra media outlets to further bring detail to the story is something that may be a typical flow of media in the future, who knows. But just like there are not many films that really need to use the bullet time effects, there are not many films whose online game will really capture the ideas of the film just by simply being an online game in itself.... there is so much potential there... anyway.

That is why I still play this game... you have the truce and MxO as the simulation inside the simulation. So it is a game that for the role players is a situation where you are responding to these philosphical propositions, your choice of organization, the way you fight and so on. It is alot better than pixie dust wizards and stuff... I just can't get into that.

Cyberdyne Managament Program

The Future is Fused.

Remag_Div wrote:

AqueousRei wrote:
You don't know. "I think therefore I am" is about the only thing one can agree to with any real certainty.

Heck, even that's open to debate, but that's getting nitpicky.

Really? This was maybe the only Philosphical statement I openly agreed with right away, and I have yet to see a valid challenge.

EVEN IF you take the matrix as an example, or the men in black super small galaxy in a galaxy with an alien controlling you like the wizard of OZ...

My personal experience beyond deception would tell me that a thought, even if controlled, is an action of exsistance. I don't see how that can be denied. Any thought is a confirmation of existance to something, even if the thought itself is not real.

HS philo... College Philo 101
I remember watching it on tape the summer before freshman year during orientation. I thought it was kind of cool how some people that were in the room were completely distracted by the new atmosphere, and others because they simply didn't get it. In fact, by the time the movie was over you could count on your hands and toes who had actually watched the film, and who sat there and just saw the special efx.
But later in the fall a friend of mine was a year back still in HS and his high school philosophy teacher showed them the Film in class... I thought that was pretty cool.

MetaLogic wrote:

Well South Park finally did an espisode on MMORPGs, more specifically WoW and Blizzard. Aside from the plotlines like Stan, Kyle, Kenny and Cartman playing WoW and trying to stop an unbeatable person. The show also shows how addictive MMO's can be. The downside of this espisode is that it seems to be a 30 minute long WoW/Blizzard commerical. What did yall think of it?

Great post. I didn't think they made nearly as much fun of the creators of WOW like they would other topics they cover. Now that you mentioned, it was probably a sell out commercial move like the boost mobile aqua teen episode ( funnay ).

I thought they could have done alot better on this one.

You don't know. "I think therefore I am" is about the only thing one can agree to with any real certainty.

They need to put out something because that is the only way we will see a true surge in new players here... by advertising a different official matrix product. (wishful thinking)

Really, the problem is that they default you towards zion.
Not that I care about org hoping, at all(esp. when you can just load MS if you want to be lame about pvp on vector), but I imagine if anyone "switched back" to avoid losing rep they had to go back zion.
Without a REAL reward for having max reputation, I just don't see how it actually matters.

I wonder that perhaps even the only reason why choice is a problem in the relationship between brain & hardware is because the Machines don't want to present themselves as arrogant slave owners as a result of how they were treated and in that is the root or foundation behind "machine compasion" or respect towards humanity. Without it, the advanced minds catch on to the mental prison much more quickly, because it is then much more pressure comming from the walls of a cell to your subconscious... it would make the world feel less real, more 'restricted'. This is why you have the Merv option for machines within the machine world. The option, lets one define the opposites in extremes.
In other words, it would be like the individual manifestation of a guilty complex as a result of using brain-power for part of your hardware. The 'balance' , or compromise for functional long-term symbiosis.

nice real nice.

It was always my thinking the the lightning was the atmosphere reaction to the man made machine cloud system... Even old Ben Franklin had that one figured out SMILEY

supersdcurge wrote:

So what ur saying is i need to upgrade the FPS on my eyes to Dodge Bullets ? Wow i tought it would be harder. **Runs off to do it**

Don't try this at home without a kevlar Vest and a Teflon helmet!

I would have to say the the machine hardware is probably so far from what we have now there is not current language for the actual components. I've always assumed nano-technology would be an AI second stroke, and in general the hardware would probably be far more productive than anything we have ever seen.

What I always wonder about is "alternate power sources".

"there are level of survival we are prepared to accept" is this just a reserve and if so far and how much can run on it for how long.

O rly?

Remag_Div wrote:

If the Machines really wanted to, they could have nullified the truce ten times over by now and wipe us out, and it's only been 6 months since the truce was formed. What people don't realise is that the Machines are the ones who are keeping this mangled truce together.

If the truce does fail, it won't be because of the Machines, it will be because of our actions against them, or against each other.

ps> I also feel they now hold a certain "respect" for operatives who help them within the Matrix. Some disagree on this, but that's a debate for another topic.

Nice post.
I think the idea in this ^ last line is supported by the Matrix comic "GOLIATH".

CaNaDiAnBeEf wrote:

Do you think it's a really a good idea to tell people about your Sakura Grind ? I know a few people with some 30's that would most likely go to sakura just to kill you while your fighting tengu...

Ahhh the skeptic... TEH ALT WARS!!!