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Vector - Hostile Marketplace - Vector WTB: Apparel Crafting Shirt/Dress : Disregard Re:WTB: Apparel Crafting Shirt/Dress IgnitionX 0 10/27/2007 16:02
  ohhhh my bad.............

Not that I need to L2r............. my short term mem is just bad

my bad.... duh

Ill keep looking



Vector - Hostile Marketplace - Vector WTB: Apparel Crafting Hat: Disregard Re:WTB: Apparel Crafting Hat IgnitionX 0 10/27/2007 15:59
  Hey Hydrazine, I got the


Enhanced Cherry Cabbie Cap
Ballistic Damage Resistance (28pts)
Melee Damage Resistance (28pts)
Thrown Accuracy Bonus (1%)
Apparel Crafting (2pts)
Viral Resistance (28pts)
Min Character Level at 43

might have the other too if you need, check your other thread as well.
Abilities and Disciplines Command Line - Hacker Discussion Hacker Vs Ma Re:Hacker Vs Ma IgnitionX 0 10/24/2007 19:51
  Unfortunately....... Quicksilver gloves = Interlock Hacker nerf
Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector Enum FTW Anyone? Re:Enum FTW Anyone? IgnitionX 0 10/24/2007 19:42
  Cool........................ I didnt know Lil Mama was from Enumerator  SMILEY




Vector - Hostile Marketplace - Vector WTB Armored/Sheilded Underarmor Re:WTB Armored/Shielded Underarmor IgnitionX 0 03/30/2007 08:07
  Anyone?

No one has these?

Whos been coding on Vec lately??


Ill pay 5 mil for the BLACK in Armored and Shielded
Vector - Hostile Marketplace - Vector WTB Armored/Sheilded Underarmor Re:WTB Armored/Sheilded Underarmor IgnitionX 0 03/26/2007 08:35
  Where did these come from anyway? Were they random drops from mobs?

I remember when you could buy the UnderArmor from vendors for a month or 2 but when did these appear with buffs?

Im especially looking for black which isnt in the marketplace. If anyone can code these or even just black it would be greatly appreciated. Im willing to pay good info for your time.
Vector - Hostile Marketplace - Vector WTB Armored/Sheilded Underarmor WTB Armored/Sheilded Underarmor IgnitionX 0 03/24/2007 08:20
  I dont know where this stuff came from but Ive seen a few Sheilded Fem UnderArmor level 50 w/ +36\

Im looking to buy the set, will make it worth someones time if they can code me the set. I can supply the frags and whatever.

Much appreciated if anyone can help me out.

TIA
Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector Zion Meeting tonight 8pm EST Re:Zion Meeting tonight 8pm EST IgnitionX 0 03/20/2007 13:24
  Ill be there....................... CHEAAAAAAA
Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector well whaddaya know. Re:well whaddaya know. IgnitionX 0 12/09/2006 18:04
  Sorry to see you go Nfinity,

Who knows the story line is actually ramping up to something drastic.


I hope to see you return one day perhaps, I hear ya Im frustrated too but maybe you just need a break we all do at times. Somethings bound to happen they aint pullin the plug no time soon.
Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector Hacker Groups... Re:Hacker Groups... IgnitionX 0 12/09/2006 10:13
  birmingham wrote:




see ya next week ?

Nope..... actually Im sure Ill see you or one of your alts much sooner Kramer SMILEY
Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector Hacker Groups... Re:Hacker Groups... IgnitionX 0 12/09/2006 09:59
  Yasamuu1 wrote:

 

I already agreed with you a freefire WILL solve any problems or doubt for that so thanks for that suggestion.

For half of this arguement i think we've had our wires crossed on how the sploit was "done" by the player in question.


/agree


I commend you on running a great tourney, its no ones job to police other players actions in a broken system.


I apologize for getting caught in the middle of this it wasnt my idea and from now on out Ill keep my battles to the street where they belong and anyone that wishes to duel under my conditions.

Theres no sense in continuing something which NONE of us are ABLE to PROVE perhaps I am a sore loser or perhaps he is truly a cheat. Everyone can make their own assumptions. So far Hlew looks like the leader maybe his game has improved 180 degree turn in a matter of weeks, maybe not. Everyone can make their own assumptions I still know what I saw.


Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector Hacker Groups... Re:Hacker Groups... IgnitionX 0 12/09/2006 09:01
  Yasamuu1 wrote:
/jackout only works for 99.9% of us.

All except the .1% that jacked back in and change clothing AFTER jacking back in. TEST IT!

Now stop trying to play damage control for your head job.


Actually its not a waste of time..........Its a waste of info for all that paid money expecting a fair fight.


And while I wasnt there to witness the MKT portion Im willing to bet even with stacked acc/res it wasnt enough to keep a well placed punt or other assassin move from erasing his clothing stack after his first recon/rez


Use FREE-FIRE, end of story test the jackout it doesnt work if they change clothing after jacking back in which IS what he did.

Stat-Hack, jackout, free-fire = the ONLY way to stop cheaters TEST IT   (In that order)


Ignorance is truly bliss huh?


Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector Hacker Groups... Re:Hacker Groups... IgnitionX 0 12/09/2006 06:36
  krytical wrote:
You all need to remember that people use outerwear that cover your entire clothes in order to hide the ugly combination of clothes required to perform good in PvP. I want to get the best PvP clothes, but I don't want to look like a clown while I do it. I personally wear Neo trenches because they're the best looking level 50 armored outerwear (resistances > bonuses) and cover my hideous combination of armored violet shirt  with amored brown shorts and dress shoes, I originally got mine from Reg, but madbent also uses it. I doubt these people use them to exploit since they've been kicking *CENSORED* forever. Ignition, no offense but your reaction in the tourny showed your lack of sportsmanship. You started accusing people of exploits after you lost, then you left, it only seemed to me like you were being a sore looser. There's nothing wrong with loosing. I got my *CENSORED* handed too, twice, I just got my shite together and simply said GF. Loosing duels doesn't mean anything, it just means you and I have to practice more with Hacker.


I have no problem losing, I watched the cheat change clothes while you and Ven had to fight on the side.

He's 3 out of 3 wins in MA tourney and 3 out of 3 wins in hacker tourney now? On the streets hes one of the worst players EVER to play on Vec. You think what you want, I already know.

Practice more with Hacker, rofl maybe if I clothes stack too Ill be able to hang with the uber cheat. Get right man, you dont know whats going on here seriously as you just came back.


Where the F is Judge Judy


Call me a sore loser all you want, Im a realist, I wouldnt have mentioned it if he wasnt already suspected from MA tourney and I watched him do it at Hacker Tourney.

Go ahead cough it up to dumb CR2 luck that he was undefeated in MA and Hacker................. easy to stay undefeated when you dont lose your extra buffs from DE.


When someone cheats its NOT a GF, not IMAO.

F being PC Ill keep it real.


And no need to worry about clothing NOW just use the FREE-FIRE it doesnt matter what they have on. Im out of this thread believe what you wish.


Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector Who's your favorite PvP player on Vector? Re:Who's your favorite PvP player on Vector? IgnitionX 0 12/08/2006 20:42
  birmingham wrote:
then he found neoni....



Funny how this kids only retort against me for many months was my female RSI

Just 2 weeks ago he is borrowing account that belongs to RL Female to cyber with dudes,

And now hes slurppin on D............................ Dont smudge your lipstick babe, hope its L'Oreal



Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector Hacker Groups... Re:Hacker Groups... IgnitionX 0 12/08/2006 18:35
  darkhaze wrote:

this is a pretty difficult subject to talk about. if i thought it would do any good id fraps how excatly to do it so that everyone can see that its not bs and specially not hard to do. but im not gonna do that cuz it would only create more drama during pvp.

ill just say this. /jackout dosent mean *CENSORED*. so /jackout is basically a waste of time unless its to prevent some other exploit. but this exploit only requires two things. clothes and im not telling the other. SMILEY

Unfortunately there has been a thread in another section posted over 6 monthes ago with 3 pages and dam near 20k Views.


Yeah, I didnt know either SMILEY


And Yas Im not gonna argue this anymore I only suggest you add the free-fire to the beginning of the remainder of fights that go on.

I saw the change but its my own dam fault for not screening it as I was definitely looking for it.


Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector Hacker Groups... Re:Hacker Groups... IgnitionX 0 12/08/2006 18:28
  Yasamuu1 wrote:
Nope, sorry. I tested this /jackout and jack in immediately. Noticed that all my buffs were reset.

Try jacking out then back in then switching outfits and tell me what happens?


I know I tested it. Your right buffs reset BUT if you switch outfits AFTER jacking back in (which was what happened) then youll see what Im talking about.


Test that, believe me....................  FREE FIRE = ONLY REAL SOLUTION

Sure the jackout cant hurt to make sure they dont have otherbuffs running such as UM or TB but it dont mean ish.


If I was having tourney it would go like this.

Stat hack then jackout, jack back in and free fire to start fight.


The free-fire is key!

IF you use the free fire then it doesnt matter what they are wearing they could wear something to cover and even if they try to stack it wont work at that point, sure there might be a way I havent found BUT if free fire starts the duel/match they wont have time to switch anybuffs and the Self -Defense Style will correct any stacking they might have done after jacking back in.
Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector Hacker Groups... Re:Hacker Groups... IgnitionX 0 12/08/2006 17:43
  After thoroughly testing the ONLY way to insure that someone is not using this and to have a truly good fight is to have each player fire 1 round of freefire when match starts or even right before.

This is my advise for ANYONE planning on having a tourney OR looking for a fair duel. Jacking out doesnt mean a dam thing.

Even if you then put on your other clothing it will not update again after using freefire ( at least I havent found a way)

Id say to be safe make the free-fire begin the fight incase there is a way by reapplyng buffs, that way it would give players a limited timeframe to do such things, free fire and let the fight begin.

Word to the wise.


My fault for not taking screens of the 2 diff outfits I saw him in. Debate it all you want I dont give a F. There was a definite change made after the jackout.

Even then I know personally I could avoid as I have a large library of clothing and could easily find resistance pieces to replicate alot of acc items I have.


FREE-FIRE = The ONLY real solution

PS I have no issues with losing it happens and often at times, dont hate me because I know better and have exposed the cheaters that think they OWN anything but themselves.

Real Talk





Feedback Forums Items and Clothing Feedback stacking clothing Re:stacking clothing IgnitionX 0 12/08/2006 17:26
  Renesis13B wrote:
I can confirm this was known during Beta CR 2.0 and the devs confirmed it was by design.  It was real easy to do with macros and only took 1 mouse click and a few secs to execute.  I think the reason more people didnt take advantage of it was because they didnt understand (and still dont) how bonuses were applied.  Anyways its fixed now and having bonuses dynamically update is a good thing.

I dont know what your looking at but this IS NOT FIXED.


Dynamic updating? I been sittin here 20 min and my accuracy still +15 in a full resistance suit. My character been writin to database several times in that time as well.

Ill try damage next but ACC is definitely an issue.  Try it yourself cause wishful thinking is nice but ITS NOT FIXED
Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector Hacker Groups... Re:Hacker Groups... IgnitionX 0 12/08/2006 09:00
  Yasamuu1 wrote:

I didn't say you were doubting anyones competence..but the fact you brought up kryt and justero's banning shows you're questioning the integrity of one decision - however it's irrelevant.

If the bonuses don't show - the added bonuses that is, then how can we trully know that there is an exploit? My understanding of it was - you pre buff Acc and switch to resistance - the accuracy stays the same whilst you get mega resist. The accuracy would stay the same on the bonus panel whilst the resist would be through the roof also - therefore its easy to check equiped clothes and bonus panel for any kind of mathematical miscalculations.


The ONLY reason I brought that up is to show that perhaps he didnt know exactly what to check for much less have the time in the time alloted. At the time of the incident they were merely using the tree as it was designed and were not at fault of their own. I think he does a great job and is plenty busy with other things truthfully, I only mentioned that merely to make a point that he isnt familiar with the combat system as alot of players who play on it daily in massive amounts. After all he does have a job to do and is quite busy. No disrespect involved and thats real talk. This is much more complicated and highly time consuming then checking for 60 stats in the Vec Olympics although Im willing to bet this "bug" was used undetected as well then too on a few occasions possibly. Only stating that because its not new and has most likely existed since beginning of cr2.


The bonuses dont read in the bonuses after you switch, they are merely added to your accuracy which would vary on EVERY player due to individual abs they had loaded. It would be impossible for him to check everyones stats as he would have to check their entire loadout to see what they had equipt as certain trees add different acc bonuses.

Even if he was that familiar with every individual ab and checked everyones full loadout as well he simply wouldnt have had that kinda time, no one would have not EVEN Neo.

No disrespect involved at all just being realistic.


How do we know that even though the accuracy is still there even though they dont appear in your bonus page but still appear in your VA? good question, I wondered that myself at first until i tested it and was quite apparent that I had much less deflections and well as rolling much better in IL. Test yourself and see.

And its considered an exploit because 9mmfu said it was 6monthes ago. Until they say differently its classified as exploiting a bug when used in PVP
Feedback Forums Items and Clothing Feedback stacking clothing Re:stacking clothing IgnitionX 0 12/08/2006 08:27
  cryshal wrote:
this was discussed a long time back. most ppl said bah who cares whats that extra 7 points gonna do for ya. in cr2, a few points here and there makes NO difference per the greater randomness of this combat system. now maras gonna be full of jackasses running around crying spl0it!#$ all day. wonderful. everyone put yer boots on, theres gonna be lots of arguing and bs'ing about sploits for the next month. someone pls tell the OP to log off and shoot himself in the face with a large caliber handgun.
I wouldnt really blame the OP at all for this, after all this thread was created over 6monthes ago. Although I never realized it as I dont generally read this section of the forums I now feel like a huge idiot for not realizing this much sooner on my own. Truth be told this "bug" has most likely plagued CR2 since its conception yet it took people time to figure out what was going on if they were checking their stat tab. It was inevitable in fact that this was going to become a huge issue eventually.

For a long time I had contemplated building defense suits to macro in 1 vs 1 IL situations. Only reason I didnt was due to lack of room in my inventory. Glad I never bothered to take the time as even if I had the bonuses wouldnt have made a bit of difference as I would need to refresh through HL to obtain them since they apparently do not work the same as resistances.

This falls in to the category of a bug that cannot be enforced of abusing such as "forced spam". This is not like when people were pushing their stats to 60 as that could be checked and was definite abuse.

Truth is just as forced spam people often could take advantage of this "bug" as it is hard to impossible to enforce as it can be done on accident, yet others take definite advantage of the fact with NO repercussions. Who's to say some did it on accident and some do it intentionally?

The ONLY solution I see at this time is to say that this 'bug" was "intended design". Many honorable players are NOT going to take advantage of the fact especially since 9mmfu stated that for the time being which was 6 months ago it was taking advantadge of a "bug" and indeed considered an exploit. Unfortunately many lame people wishing to get a slight edge have and will continue to do so.


Im a realist and from what I see the system isnt designed to refresh itself. Im no coder but most likely due to the original design of CR1. We are way past the point to bring CR1 back due to all the things that have been added since then. Im a realist CR1 aint coming back unfortunately, so since this issue cannot be fixed can they make this "intended design"? That way noone can scream sploits and if you didnt take the time to stack some of your accuracy,defense or damage that is just your problem. Truthfully it would add a little more depth to the combat system as you can pick more buffs to enhance yourself with. On the downside it will also lead to more imbalance as the possibilities are explored. Fix it, approve of it, whatever something needs to be done. Truth is CR2 is broke.

Im not waiting 6 months for a "fix" if its even possible, while others run around taking advantage of the system with NO repercussions even though we have been told NOT TO over 6monthes ago.

The solution is simple, truthfully Id rather see new content and other things worked on then them having to waste their time trying to fix this if it even can be done in this system.


"Intended Design" just go with it or give us CR3 if thats possible, I dont see that happening either though at this point. But something need to be confirmed here.


Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector Hacker Groups... Re:Hacker Groups... IgnitionX 0 12/08/2006 07:19
  Im not doubting anyone competence at all so dont missread my words.

Truthfully check, the bonuses are not listed anymore after the switch yet your accuracy STILL contains them.

Every lo is going to read slightly differently so you would essentially have to be very familiar with EVERY lo and add everything up manually which is just impossible to do in that amount of time.

Ill leave it at that.


Aint nobodies fault CR2 is very flawed between this issue and force spamming. Neither of which can be enforced.



Im just extremely sick of scrubs taking advantage of the flawed combat system.


Ill stop posting as I believe you have run a great tourney but unfortuantely due to the flaws of CR2 the result dont mean much. Guess somebody all in the sudden has become elite.............

Trust me theres a reason that thread has been read 20k+ times but has less than 3 pages of posts within.




Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector Hacker Groups... Re:Hacker Groups... IgnitionX 0 12/08/2006 06:41
  CrazyJun wrote:
Beanno wrote:
....  you have to use the same fighting style for the sploit to work, so duel hanguns the whole time, no using smgs with duelist or it resets, same with switching from hyper dodge to hyper sense have to stay with your def u began with ....

Jackin out fixes problems with cloth stacking. If you jackin again, your fighting style is set to self-defense (changing styles undo cloth stacking) and you have no buffs / defense running. If you activate them again, buffs and defenses using your current cloth stats.
Even if you change clothes in an ongoing fight, you cannot activate your buff (combate stance) and just do it for the sake of getting +5 viral acc and only some points for defense isn't worth the IS, the bustle and doesn't make any difference. There is no need to bar people from changing clothes, most of the time it's just done to get a better IS regen for a short amount of time or max your resi against high dmg attacks.
Anyways, if you thought there was something in disorder, you should had staid at the tournament. It's no secret that CSRs / Devs watching those fights.

btw - kryt and ven fought at the other side of the club, cause hlew fall asleep and stood between both of them.
Sorry but I JUST tested this if you change your clothing after jacking back in you STILL retain the buffs of original clothing as those were the ones you had equipted when you first entered the Matrix just like stepping in a HL to refresh.

I DID speak my mind at tourney and left.

Also no offense to anyone as I was told a certain CSR was watching, but seriously did he have time to pay attention to all that and everyone there? No offense to him but isnt this the same csr to suspend Kryt and Justero for using MS as it was designed originally in CR2?

I dont need to prove my point any further, I have tested myself and I dont need anyone to validate sorry.


I can jackout then switch clothing and have an extra 13pts VA even after I switch to full res. Thats pretty significant and I witnessed the clothing change.
Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector Hacker Groups... Re:Hacker Groups... IgnitionX 0 12/08/2006 06:10
  Yasamuu1 wrote:
Thats not the case though - if you jack back in your styles and buffs are reset - therefore reseting the accuracy. I believe you relate this to the DE bug..however thats a flawed theory because the jacking out and back in immediately doesn't interupt the DE timer - therefore u could still get perma DE. Where as jacking out does reset the styles and buffs so someone would have to change clothes again.
My bad you guys are totally correct jacking out will reset your buffs unless players change clothing after jacking back in which is what I witnessed so my first post is incorrect.

So to clarify jacking out even for a second is fine as long as they dont change clothing after jacking back in which is what I witnessed anyway.

Looks like we need the fashion police to truly make sure there is no foul play. Yes I was paying attention not my fault no one else was.


Someone did change clothes again, infact thats why they stood they like a lump forcing Kryt and Ven to fight on the side of the fight club instead of the middle where it was originally intended.


Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector Hacker Groups... Re:Hacker Groups... IgnitionX 0 12/08/2006 05:44
  The only way for sure to make sure that there is no foul play is to check clothing prior to jackout and when they jackback in. Even then unfortunately many clothing looks the same but has completely different buffs.

I specifically seen a coat change and the original coat was full length so there was really no way of me tell for sure what items were changed unless I was up close and personal but there was indeed a change made after jacking back in which is why he stood in the middle blocking the first round.



Id also like to add that I walked out after 1, if someone wants a fair fight Id advise using the above for reference.


http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/..._id=35600001459











Feedback Forums Items and Clothing Feedback stacking clothing Re:stacking clothing IgnitionX 0 12/08/2006 05:35
  Im not talking about CT as Im hacking but I am talking about my accuracy.

I was indeed able to add 15pts on to my viral accuracy which is a huge boost considering the main buffs add like 7pts VA.

So I was able to more than double that number which should be huge as thats like an extra buff of over double what a normal Hacker buff would be not to mention I still have that so Im left with an extra 15pts.

This can be done with other los Im just stated for hacks now so thats what I tested.

15 extra pts to Viral Accuracy no big deal?   I beg to F ing differ

I imagine the same can be done with MA, 15 extra points of Melee Accuracy no big deal in a 1 vs 1??

Truthfully Im seeing all kinds of evil things I could do but ill leave it at that.


Im sick and tired of people trying to justify cheats/sploits in this game.

Obviously it cant be fixed Id just like permission to use it myself at this point.


In the zerg it might not make a huge difference but on 1 vs 1 situations it TOTALLY does.
Feedback Forums Items and Clothing Feedback stacking clothing Re:stacking clothing IgnitionX 0 12/07/2006 19:13
  Bayamo wrote:
Resistance is not an x% influence, that's why it updates when your pts fluctuate.

Sure, some players do use this, but a few points don't make much of a difference usually. And besides, there are ways to force opponents to refresh their style and lose the extra points if you think they're using it.

Personally I can get 13 points and Im positive I can get more if I want as this was purely accidental and Im sure I could think it out to get quite a few more.

I can demonstrate what 13 points will do for my accuracy. Actually Id really like to test. I bet I can roll a hell of alot better in IL with a extra 13pts as well as way less deflections outside of IL. Doesnt accuracy effect your CT as well? Im not a MA so Im not sure but Im sure it would make a huge difference in 1 vs 1 using a pure MA build.

In fact some of the only builds I dont see benefiting from this are Gunmen and MA/patcher builds (MA patcher build already some cheesy ish Im sure they could still get the regen just cant spam the heals)

MKT they dont need to switch style for anything unless they wanna free fire

Same with Hackers

MAs sure like to switch up but I bet with the extra accuracy or defense a pure MA useing this stack is superior to most Hybrids.

Gunmens probably the only that REALLY cant take advantage of that but even then Im sure there some that can, what about snipers?



Feedback Forums Items and Clothing Feedback stacking clothing Re:stacking clothing IgnitionX 0 12/07/2006 18:38
  WOW!!! This thread is from May? Its mid December now and no fix.

Looks like it cant be fixed obviously as the system isnt designed to refresh itself as need be.

This is a REAL issue, and is just out of control. Your dead wrong if you think that this only gives you an advantage of 4 points. This explains so many uncanny things I have noticed for months on end as I have only recently discovered this myself while trying to figure out why my accuracy has constantly been floating around since the beginning of cr2.


What I dont understand is why does Resistance refresh automatically yet other things dont? I guess resistance is on some whole different type of table or something?


Seriously......... Can you PLEASE give us all the go-ahead to take advantage of this cause people are persisting to use this more and more and no one has gotten into any kind of trouble over this so why should some people be allowed to have this unfair advantage while the rest of us respectable players are not?

Can you please just say that this is intended design so we can all stop worrying about this issue and have the same advantage as the many players now useing it to theirs and claiming to be the pwn with it?


Seriously can we get the green light to use this as others are. Sure it doesnt make you invincible but on a one on one level it is quite noticeable.

How can this be enforced anyway who's to say you were conscious of switching outfits to your advantage anyway, as I often find myself wondering why I have a few extra points somehow but once you understand why this doesnt refresh like resistance its easy to end up with +15 on specific stats?


Please I cant state this enough, if it cant be "fixed" can this please be considered "intended design"?




P.S. I just noticed how many times this thread has been viewed yet so little posts, no wonder this is outta hand.


Please just make "intended design"





Community General Discussion What’s your favorite bug? Re:What’s your favorite bug? IgnitionX 0 12/07/2006 05:30
  Eliminate the Hostiles.........................

NO WAIT I CANT....................They keep escaping out the elevator and I have to cancel mish on last leg and start all over again.  *CENSORED*


Good luck trying to complete a mish like Merv 5.3.4


I wont even get started on PVP problems SMILEY
Vector - Hostile Marketplace - Vector WTB Level 50 Armored or Shielded Black Sif Open Corset Shirt w/ mesh Re:WTB Level 50 Armored or Shielded Black Sif Open Corset Shirt w/ mesh IgnitionX 0 12/06/2006 17:18
  Bump, cause I really want this shirt and Im prepared to pay VERY nicely
Development Discussion Development Roundtable CQ suggestion and a couple of fixes Re:CQ suggestion and a couple of fixes IgnitionX 0 12/06/2006 17:13
  Id love to see a distinction between team cq and solo cq.

Team cq is why cq is so refutable.


Although if they ever did make the distinction they would need to only allow solo cq against a player within a reasonable level to prevent lamers from going on lowbie killing sprees.




Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector Why the MKT hate? Re:Why the MKT hate? IgnitionX 0 12/05/2006 18:31
  birmingham wrote:

EEeeeeerm i dont think ive EVER spam'd a roll with mkt..................................

Guess your too busy spamming the forums with your useless drivvle

Seriously there should be some restrictions on how many useless posts you are allowed to make in one day.

Why do you feel the need to post in every section of the Vector forums whenever you log in? Just curious and quite frankly Im quite tired of sifting through it.
Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector hey im back after... Re:hey im back after... IgnitionX 0 12/05/2006 03:13
  Im not trying to flame or invoke any drama but food for thought. We all are playing characters and the problem lies when certain characters are played like soap opera actors. Often by different actors and confusion sets in at times.



There are actually 2 different types of character switching in MXO. Often completely different characters are played by the same actor other times the one character is played by completely different actors. Confusing huh? Well not really.



Is it that far fetched that the correlation was drawn? Not really, now let me explain. You admit to playing on the MOVIE account. Ok now that was established. What wasnt established was.... are you MOVIE or were you just playing on his account?

Word on the streets at one time that Dues was MOVIE, now I dont really believe this to be true as I found them at times to have very different personalities but then again I also found at times that Untouchable had very different personalities. I dont think its a secret that Untouchable was sometimes played by at least 2 different actors as there were inconsistencies at times. Not to mention several other players revealed and took credit for playing and leveling his alt Untouchables and other Dues alts. This is not really about Dues though but just showing you where such conspiracy theories could originate.

What later transpired to be the story about Dues and Movie was that the MOVIE account was indeed owned by Dues long ago but givin or sold to another player who we know as MOVIE now, therefore that was the reasoning on how the whole Dues being MOVIE thing was started.





Truthfully no one really cares but truth of the matter is whatever actor you are, were you really gone or are you MOVIE? If you are MOVIE then I guess you were NEVER really gone huh? But then again maybe you were just borrowing his account as you definately admit to playing the character. Dont be mad cause there was some confusion involved on who you really are or were.


There are alot of actors in MXO stuff like this is bound to happen, what motivates people to play multiple accounts I dont know. I might have a few myself. I see the appeal, I could be one persons worst enemy and at the same time their best ally. RP at its best I guess.  That takes care of the speculation of what might motivate people to play multiple characters and wish to keep it a secret, perhaps it some kind of personal pych issue or just good RP at the core and money to burn.

As far as the same character being played by different people thats could be done to merely prove that I am indeed two separate entities at times. Or maybe I just like sharing my accounts with family or friends.


You aint the only one to fall into one one of these actor catagories. Theres many more. Just stating the obvious though.





Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector Champions League Groups Drawn Re:Champions League Groups Drawn IgnitionX 0 12/05/2006 02:12
  452x5 wrote:


No one was allowed to leave the dj until they had all their fights..    also everyone had to jackout and back in after the stat hack...   so i dont see how anyone could possibly be exploiting...

and baning clothing that covers the entire body?    why?    all clothes apart from gi's are allowed anyway.. what possible reason for this.. apart to see what people are wearing.. but most decent fighters know what their best clothes are..    so seeing what someone else is wearing isnt or at least shouldnt change the mind of their opponent in what to wear.

my gi is already not allowed top be used.....    dont take my vanilla motorcycle suit out as well...    

Ah ok I missed the stat hacking I didnt see that everyone was forced to jackout and back without leaving dojo until all their fights. My apologies and good thinking. As long the jackouts were done in dojo prior to fights and noone was allowed to leave.

And I hear you... the clothing is unfortunate as it especially puts fem characters at a disadvantage as they are already the minority and most of the good buffs come off of moto suits or whatever. Truthfully I was much more concerned with characters jackingout or suiciding but jacking out was a even better method.

Like I say props on a very well run tourney
Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector Champions League Groups Drawn Re:Champions League Groups Drawn IgnitionX 0 12/05/2006 01:25
  Id just like to say Im impressed, very well organized tourney.


I must say though its nice that you had everyone stat-hack but as Haze pointed out if you want to make sure your event isnt corrupted next round or whatever you should FORCE everyone competing to suicide first and not allowed to leave dojo until their fight is complete as well as ban any clothing that might cover their entire body.

Its unfortunate but true, yeah I watched the event and it was pretty obvious to me but I assure you that if this measure was taken the outcome would have been slightly different.

Let it fall on deaf ears if you want but that is truly real talk
Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector Why the MKT hate? Re:Why the MKT hate? IgnitionX 0 12/03/2006 16:54
  My ONLY complaint with MKT is that it is the EASIEST tree to force spam that is all.

It wasnt really a problem until they adjusted it months back and it took a supposed nerf but the timers were decreased. Although this "forced spamming" can be replicated with other los MKT is the easiest one to accidentally spam with. I know this myself because until I made a conscious effort to make sure I only hit the button once I usually spamed at least once in every MKT IL session.

Not MKTs fault just the broken system as this can be done with other los, but it does remain the easiest tree for force spammers to take advantage of.


IMAO if people wanna really hate/complain on ANY lo it should be snipers after all its the only lo I know that even when wearing MAX resistance and hyper deflect you will still die in less than 3 hits by a good sniper in less than 6-8 seconds with a purely obscene amount of damage in freefire alone it boggles me to why it still remains this way.


I hear alot of people complain about DOTS the same way as MKT even more, and if they really bothered to take the time to equip themselves properly against it they would see its not an issue at all they are just too lazy to deal with it.

Sniper is a whole nother story, I have res suits for everything and sniper damage is just a total joke. Especially freefire.


Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector Who's your favorite PvP player on Vector? Re:Who's your favorite PvP player on Vector? IgnitionX 0 12/03/2006 15:01
  Im editing my list even though it included purely PVP on the battlefield cause as Venom points out later in this thread these things usually turn into popularity contests and I dont believe that popularizing PVP is good in any way in fact it corrupts the whole concept when it all boils down.

Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector Can someone please tell me... Re:Can someone please tell me... IgnitionX 0 12/02/2006 09:56
  Yasamuu1 wrote:
Vector was deserted last night...it was unreal. I think that was the first time in a long time no mervs or zion had been around from around 1am GMT - 4am.

Its been really bad since 2 "Next Gen" systems were released 2 days of each other, and contrary to belief it aint just Vector log in at that time and find ALL servers reading low.


Server population was NOT this low at the time of the original merge. We need a merge and the sooner the better, IMAO its way passed due.

SOE wants to keep this on its "access pass" it looks good. Its not going to help by delaying this ANY longer. I understand that there are issues with satisfying the majority of the player base left but something must be done.

I loved the Hostile World and dont wanna give it up but there needs to be a compromise of sorts if not soon only more will leave.

Lag is not the issue here. They need to merge all 3 instances into one, that should be less maintnance anyway. Reset the server twice a week to fix the DT lag issues.

Its sad for real. I feel funny complaining about Zion like these were the "good ol days" when I log in at that time and only see one or two I feel bad attacking people unless we agree before hand to fight. Its sick.


I keep hoping EVERYDAY there will be an announcement. Cancel Christmas and give us a merge. Sure Id like some content but this needs to be first priority atm. Hopefully they know this and are currently working on the specifics of the Mega-City New World Order.


Community General Discussion Cause of "Effects of Combat" still being active after death. Re:Cause of "Effects of Combat" still being active after death. IgnitionX 0 12/02/2006 09:14
  EOC definitely only appears after dieing in interlock. But another hostile doesnt have anything to do with it necessarily. While Im sure that can add to your chances of catching EOC after reconing or res, this can be duplicated without a third party.

Truthfully I doubt it will or can EVER be fixed. Its been around since CR1 although no where near as bad as it is in CR2. I hear ya, I hate it, nothing kills pvp quicker than coming back with EOC or floating/gimped accuracy that doesnt adjust itself EVEN after DE fades. I believe that they are interlinked somehow and are part of a much bigger problem. The system doesnt refresh itself so to say or wasnt designed to.

 
Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector The path to a new future begins at dawn. Re:The path to a new future begins at dawn. IgnitionX 0 12/02/2006 08:57
  Where is N1?

Has anyone even seen him yet?

I been waiting this sounded like a wild event but is it all talk?


No offense at all to N1 I was intrigued, but there seems to be a delay. Whats the deal?
Vector - Hostile World Discussion - Vector Can someone please tell me... Re:Can someone please tell me... IgnitionX 0 12/02/2006 08:48
  bannanaphone wrote:
jeeeze...

a symp is a term for someone to whine about dying by blaming it on a person who isn't zion.

or atleast, thats my synopsis (sp?)

actually.................. a SYMP is a SYMP, pure and SYMPLE, lol

Just trying to give an accurate description of a true symp, now a days you have to log on at key times to get symped out.


But its all irrelevant now.......... Id gladly take 100 more SYMPs on the server if it kept the server from reading low when I logged in.

Speaking of wine I got a cheap bottle of asti spumante to christen your forhead with.

I been looking for you SMILEY


 
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