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Commando

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The JH was the choice HA for most VS before the new lasher came out.  Most VS had lockers full o f JH(Including me) because it was fun to use and powerful.  The only threads regarding nerfing  the JH were  in regards to the triple shot insta kill.  BUT, the VS with their low pops kept playing.

Now the table has turned, and the lasher is the choice weapon.  I still have my JH's but some of you have posted your lockers are full of Lashers and green ammo.  So be it. 

The VS has been low global or even global the past week including a mere 22% today when I logged on.  The nc were rolling us and our OP'd lasher on Ishundar.  The TR decide to hit Oshur and pull the NC off ish for us, tyvm.  Quit crying about the pops for your ignorance on choosing targets and taking ground.  The VS were low pop last night too, as a matter of fact they are off and on all day long.  Quit crying about pops already and choose a smart target.

On Robo's post and mine regarding taking our outfits to other empires and having success.  It's true, regardless of the weapon, organization > ANY empire's HA weapon.  Be it for one night or one month, if you dont like it, join an active outfit and DO something about it.

The lasher's power comes into affect vs  1's and 2's and is obviously the weapon of choice in that situation.  TRY AVOIDING that situation if you are NC/TR.  Or better yet, adapt (yes, throw plasma) and even the playing field.  Just like guys toss jammers to kill inplants(PShield) and kill boomers, even the playing field with a frag or plasma.  It's a game, use some common sense to give yourself an advantage.  I cant tell you how many times Ive been hit by nades in towers by agile droppers who are OBVIOUSLY evening the battlefield by neutralizing Rexo armour. 

The pops are already balancing out, quit using that as an excuse for failing. 

I know guys who get flamed for having a max certed for resecures.  Outpopped and outmanned, grab a max vs rexo's to even the playing field.  IT's been done by ALL empires for YEARS, use the same philosophy now.  It's not that hard...




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Play against the Lasher for a week, most of us have been doing it since the release.




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Chronicle wrote:

Play against the Lasher for a week, most of us have been doing it since the release.

I played against the JH for 3 years and not once did I make a post here regarding it.  I played and got owned for 3 years against the MCG at medium range, and felt pretty much helpless against it and yet I never came here and posted about it either.  Try going in a v bay in a tech base with a couple MCG's firing at you and see how long you last.  Likewise, attack it with an MCG vs OLD lasher defending and and see the outcome too.  Those slow ass orbs were easy to dodge.




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OneBadDude wrote:

The JH was the choice HA for most VS before the new lasher came out.  Most VS had lockers full o f JH(Including me) because it was fun to use and powerful.  The only threads regarding nerfing  the JH were  in regards to the triple shot insta kill.  BUT, the VS with their low pops kept playing.

Now the table has turned, and the lasher is the choice weapon.  I still have my JH's but some of you have posted your lockers are full of Lashers and green ammo.  So be it. 

The VS has been low global or even global the past week including a mere 22% today when I logged on.  The nc were rolling us and our OP'd lasher on Ishundar.  The TR decide to hit Oshur and pull the NC off ish for us, tyvm.  Quit crying about the pops for your ignorance on choosing targets and taking ground.  The VS were low pop last night too, as a matter of fact they are off and on all day long.  Quit crying about pops already and choose a smart target.

On Robo's post and mine regarding taking our outfits to other empires and having success.  It's true, regardless of the weapon, organization > ANY empire's HA weapon.  Be it for one night or one month, if you dont like it, join an active outfit and DO something about it.

The lasher's power comes into affect vs  1's and 2's and is obviously the weapon of choice in that situation.  TRY AVOIDING that situation if you are NC/TR.  Or better yet, adapt (yes, throw plasma) and even the playing field.  Just like guys toss jammers to kill inplants(PShield) and kill boomers, even the playing field with a frag or plasma.  It's a game, use some common sense to give yourself an advantage.  I cant tell you how many times Ive been hit by nades in towers by agile droppers who are OBVIOUSLY evening the battlefield by neutralizing Rexo armour. 

The pops are already balancing out, quit using that as an excuse for failing. 

I know guys who get flamed for having a max certed for resecures.  Outpopped and outmanned, grab a max vs rexo's to even the playing field.  IT's been done by ALL empires for YEARS, use the same philosophy now.  It's not that hard...

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I don't think its to do with what weapon is the best HA, but in terms of power agaisnt the other HA the new lasher is far superior to the MCG and even JH as compared to the JH v the MCG/Old lasher which wasn't perfectly balanced but alot more so than this new lasher




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OneBadDude wrote:

The JH was the choice HA for most VS before the new lasher came out.  Most VS had lockers full o f JH(Including me) because it was fun to use and powerful.  The only threads regarding nerfing  the JH were  in regards to the triple shot insta kill.  BUT, the VS with their low pops kept playing.

Now the table has turned, and the lasher is the choice weapon.  I still have my JH's but some of you have posted your lockers are full of Lashers and green ammo.  So be it. 

The VS has been low global or even global the past week including a mere 22% today when I logged on.  The nc were rolling us and our OP'd lasher on Ishundar.  The TR decide to hit Oshur and pull the NC off ish for us, tyvm.  Quit crying about the pops for your ignorance on choosing targets and taking ground.  The VS were low pop last night too, as a matter of fact they are off and on all day long.  Quit crying about pops already and choose a smart target.

On Robo's post and mine regarding taking our outfits to other empires and having success.  It's true, regardless of the weapon, organization > ANY empire's HA weapon.  Be it for one night or one month, if you dont like it, join an active outfit and DO something about it.

The lasher's power comes into affect vs  1's and 2's and is obviously the weapon of choice in that situation.  TRY AVOIDING that situation if you are NC/TR.  Or better yet, adapt (yes, throw plasma) and even the playing field.  Just like guys toss jammers to kill inplants(PShield) and kill boomers, even the playing field with a frag or plasma.  It's a game, use some common sense to give yourself an advantage.  I cant tell you how many times Ive been hit by nades in towers by agile droppers who are OBVIOUSLY evening the battlefield by neutralizing Rexo armour. 

The pops are already balancing out, quit using that as an excuse for failing. 

I know guys who get flamed for having a max certed for resecures.  Outpopped and outmanned, grab a max vs rexo's to even the playing field.  IT's been done by ALL empires for YEARS, use the same philosophy now.  It's not that hard...


OBD <3 but i have different views man which you know.  prime time and when i am on the VS pop is 10% higher than anyone elses.  i fought you the other day on 1Shot1Kill2 who has the mcg, i shot you 3-4 times before you even saw me and i got another 10 shots into you and you quickly downed me.  i have done this to NC and TR when i played VS.  you should not be able to kill someone that has the jump on you and doesnt miss.  i have killed many on VS without a gun out and they start firing on me and i still win.  SOE messed up with the JH and took years to right their wrong but bottom line the game should be balanced.  i dont want an OP mcg, i would like it to be better since its the worst of the 3 since release.  no the lasher is not the worst.  it does what an HA should do, win the battle inside.  your tech plant senario, you have every other entrence not requiring range.  mcg should lose every time at those places

have you tried throwing plasma at a lasher user? they own you below half health by the time it hits them. with the max thing, they have timers, lasher has none. and the VS can have lasher and AV max for our maxes.  there is not winning.  you can outsmart to a degree but the VS can adapt and bottom line have far supioror weaponry.

time to agree part, this game is made for team work so joining an outfit is good mkay.




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I logged on today, and tried to use the lasher.  I logged off with 0/17.

 

Mannn I suck.




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RasFrostwhisper wrote:

I logged on today, and tried to use the lasher.  I logged off with 0/17.

 

Mannn I suck.

That's because you don't have HA certed. Stupid




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Try playing TR against it for a week, boyo.

 

Seriously, this thread needs a locking.

 

 

 


Message edited by gunnersmate31 on 06/01/2009 20:25:24.



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OneBadDude wrote:

The JH was the choice HA for most VS before the new lasher came out.  Most VS had lockers full o f JH(Including me) because it was fun to use and powerful.  The only threads regarding nerfing  the JH were  in regards to the triple shot insta kill.  BUT, the VS with their low pops kept playing.

Now the table has turned, and the lasher is the choice weapon.  I still have my JH's but some of you have posted your lockers are full of Lashers and green ammo.  So be it. 

The VS has been low global or even global the past week including a mere 22% today when I logged on.  The nc were rolling us and our OP'd lasher on Ishundar.  The TR decide to hit Oshur and pull the NC off ish for us, tyvm.  Quit crying about the pops for your ignorance on choosing targets and taking ground.  The VS were low pop last night too, as a matter of fact they are off and on all day long.  Quit crying about pops already and choose a smart target.

On Robo's post and mine regarding taking our outfits to other empires and having success.  It's true, regardless of the weapon, organization > ANY empire's HA weapon.  Be it for one night or one month, if you dont like it, join an active outfit and DO something about it.

The lasher's power comes into affect vs  1's and 2's and is obviously the weapon of choice in that situation.  TRY AVOIDING that situation if you are NC/TR.  Or better yet, adapt (yes, throw plasma) and even the playing field.  Just like guys toss jammers to kill inplants(PShield) and kill boomers, even the playing field with a frag or plasma.  It's a game, use some common sense to give yourself an advantage.  I cant tell you how many times Ive been hit by nades in towers by agile droppers who are OBVIOUSLY evening the battlefield by neutralizing Rexo armour. 

The pops are already balancing out, quit using that as an excuse for failing. 

I know guys who get flamed for having a max certed for resecures.  Outpopped and outmanned, grab a max vs rexo's to even the playing field.  IT's been done by ALL empires for YEARS, use the same philosophy now.  It's not that hard...

 

 

Wow...just wow. I REREAD your post and am sickened.

 

Someone lock this miserable thread.




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Death2All wrote:

RasFrostwhisper wrote:

I logged on today, and tried to use the lasher.  I logged off with 0/17.

 

Mannn I suck.

That's because you don't have HA certed. Stupid


:O

How silly of me. I was wondering if i was hitting the wrong key every time.




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RasFrostwhisper wrote:

Death2All wrote:

RasFrostwhisper wrote:

I logged on today, and tried to use the lasher.  I logged off with 0/17.

 

Mannn I suck.

That's because you don't have HA certed. Stupid


:O

How silly of me. I was wondering if i was hitting the wrong key every time.

Yeah, that was pretty silly.




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Death2All wrote:

RasFrostwhisper wrote:

Death2All wrote:

RasFrostwhisper wrote:

I logged on today, and tried to use the lasher.  I logged off with 0/17.

 

Mannn I suck.

That's because you don't have HA certed. Stupid


:O

How silly of me. I was wondering if i was hitting the wrong key every time.

Yeah, that was pretty silly.

You know, it is the lasher. The way these people are making it seem is you don't even need to have it in your hands to kill people.




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RasFrostwhisper wrote:

Death2All wrote:

RasFrostwhisper wrote:

Death2All wrote:

RasFrostwhisper wrote:

I logged on today, and tried to use the lasher.  I logged off with 0/17.

 

Mannn I suck.

That's because you don't have HA certed. Stupid


:O

How silly of me. I was wondering if i was hitting the wrong key every time.

Yeah, that was pretty silly.

You know, it is the lasher. The way these people are making it seem is you don't even need to have it in your hands to kill people.

Well, you are going to need your hands regardless, it's just a matter of how much you have to use them

 

Just FYI there were no sexual refrences in that message




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Death2All wrote:

RasFrostwhisper wrote:

Death2All wrote:

RasFrostwhisper wrote:

Death2All wrote:

RasFrostwhisper wrote:

I logged on today, and tried to use the lasher.  I logged off with 0/17.

 

Mannn I suck.

That's because you don't have HA certed. Stupid


:O

How silly of me. I was wondering if i was hitting the wrong key every time.

Yeah, that was pretty silly.

You know, it is the lasher. The way these people are making it seem is you don't even need to have it in your hands to kill people.

Well, you are going to need your hands regardless, it's just a matter of how much you have to use them

 

Just FYI there were no sexual refrences in that message

tl; dr


 
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