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Military Advisor

Joined: Jun 19, 2004
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Ok im really not happy now.

I just got back and checked my emails and found an /appeal i made:

090418-000813Unresolved04/18/2009 11:25 AMNelsonMuntzPS ingame hacking NOW

So potentially this guy could of been running around hacking and disrupting peoples games for hours on end.

 

Seriously these trial accounts are now beyond an fing joke and while paying customers like myself try to be patient and use the correct procedures to deal with these people they just laugh in your face.

As a matter of fact your offer to merge werner has probably brought in alot more people than these trial accounts ever did but your really testing peoples patience to breaking point allowing these trials to continue without having adequate measures in place to control the people using them.

Im a cr5 and i really dont like it when i see relativly new people ingame being harrased by such hackers and im unable to advise or help them anymore than to /report or /appeal them only to find MY OWN /appeal goin unresolved hours later.

Yesterday i started telling people to teamkill them on sight because im getting sick of how these asswipes can come in mess up peoples games and at times have no consequences at all for there actions and sure teamkilling them just usually ends up with them changing to another empire and then dropping your gen BUT at least to some myself included it feels like they have had some sort of payback for their bs.

Some of our cr5s appeared to prefer it when at least they were hacking on OUR empire which is no less acceptable then if it was on nc or vs infact its less because you have to actually stand alongside the same cretins and so be hacking by association so god damn do something about it.

 

You REALLY need to knock these trial accounts on the head as i think im a reasonably patient person and latly its really starting to get annoying and i saw one guy say "i think ill make a trial account and hack to kill the hacker" and you know what?, it actually sounded like a half decent idea at the time and thats how stupid things are getting.

 

Removing trial accounts may not remove 100% of hackers but id guess it would be 90% to 95% better than it currently is so please sort it out never mind about lashers or battledomes or anything else as these are minor in comparison.


Message edited by SabreTooth on 04/19/2009 01:31:12.


Strategic Officer

Joined: Mar 20, 2004
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Make people pay $2 for a trial account.

That way you make a little money and if that account gets banned for hacking you can ban the credit card/debit card.

 

Its soooo simple.




Cadet

Joined: Apr 28, 2004
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It's getting more and more ridiculous. Right now there are 4 hackers on Hossin (1 TR, 3 NC) using rof/cof/whatever hacks. All with a bit of bar code in their character name. All low BR chars, so probably trial accounts.

Deactivate trial accounts at least temporarily and we will see if the hacker situation gets better (100% sure it will).

 

Oh and my last appeal only took 28(!) hours. Thanks for the fast response.




Infiltrator

Joined: Aug 16, 2005
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Heres a variant on the volunteer idea, give a few volunteer the ability to griefflock suspected cheaters for 15 minutes with or without the actual greif. and repeat it if they continue to cheat.. also keep these volunteers anonymous so 1) they dont get the constant tells from people asking them to lock joeblow and janedoe every 30 secounds. and 2) so the hackers dont know who they need to avoid and/or retaliate against. Mix this in with the abiality to ghost people and view the number of /reports on people and you have a way to slow down the current form of hacking,

This is assuming greif and greiflock is severside....

I think this could work...

also...if possible make it so these people can only police trail accounts, meaning the greif command wont work if the suspected hacker is on a full subcription account, that person would have to be handled by the the GM's..


Message edited by 2ndRealStinky on 04/19/2009 10:09:53.



Master at Arms

Joined: Mar 22, 2004
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Had enough, OP Lasher and a day full of hackers which from the tells I got are the same ppl on trial accounts that have been hacking all week made me log off.

Not only that but its has taken hours and hours for some of these to be removed.

 

The whole thing is NOT acceptable SOE, your appeal system is rubbish and you need to put in some kind of hack protection.

It is NOT acceptable that the code has not changed since March 08 so that hacks still work over a year later.

 

 

 



Cadet

Joined: Aug 13, 2004
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as has been stated before let's take the game we love back, all must team kill the hackers. if we all do this it will cut it down maybe even end it .



Cadet

Joined: Jan 18, 2007
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the only empire i ever seen tking the hackers are tr, and then i get tells from various nc/vs to go out of my way to kill these guys when they will just go and run behind them

 

and about the cheating, whenever i see some i just /report, then i remember it does nothing and do /appeal then it opens a little box and says *click to launch soe customer cupport website* then i click close and forget the whole thing happened...


Message edited by Dudster on 04/20/2009 02:20:10.


Commando

Joined: Mar 18, 2006
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2ndRealStinky wrote:

Heres a variant on the volunteer idea, give a few volunteer the ability to griefflock suspected cheaters for 15 minutes with or without the actual greif. ...

This is assuming greif and greiflock is severside....

There have been hackers TKing with no apparent grief lock problems so i'd guess it's something client side.

SOE really needs to ensure there is at least one GM online 24/7 to get rid of the blatant hackers quickly, and then take some time to figure out what can be done about the broader hacking problem.



Strategic Officer

Joined: Jul 26, 2007
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Dudster wrote:

the only empire i ever seen tking the hackers are tr, and then i get tells from various nc/vs to go out of my way to kill these guys when they will just go and run behind them

 

and about the cheating, whenever i see some i just /report, then i remember it does nothing and do /appeal then it opens a little box and says *click to launch soe customer cupport website* then i click close and forget the whole thing happened...

I tked a hacker once...




General

Joined: Jun 27, 2006
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Dudster wrote:

the only empire i ever seen tking the hackers are tr, and then i get tells from various nc/vs to go out of my way to kill these guys when they will just go and run behind them

 

and about the cheating, whenever i see some i just /report, then i remember it does nothing and do /appeal then it opens a little box and says *click to launch soe customer cupport website* then i click close and forget the whole thing happened...

I make an effort to tk every hacker I see, regardless of empire.



Master at Arms

Joined: Mar 19, 2004
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Has anyone mentioned the supposed furor on the hacker forum about the latest wave of hackers?

Supposedly, there have been veteran players hacking subtly for over a year, on their main characters, and are mad that a few trial accounts are drawing attention to the whole thing.

I heard that these vets have been using like +15% Rate of Fire hacks to give them a hard-to-notice advantage, and have been doing it for a long time. If that's true, it's really depressing to know that "secret" hackers have been around ruining people's fun for so long.



Tactical Officer

Joined: Jan 30, 2007
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WorldofForms wrote:

Has anyone mentioned the supposed furor on the hacker forum about the latest wave of hackers?

Supposedly, there have been veteran players hacking subtly for over a year, on their main characters, and are mad that a few trial accounts are drawing attention to the whole thing.

I heard that these vets have been using like +15% Rate of Fire hacks to give them a hard-to-notice advantage, and have been doing it for a long time. If that's true, it's really depressing to know that "secret" hackers have been around ruining people's fun for so long.


Stealth hacking. It's been a rumor for a long, long time, particularly when we talk about "elitist" outfits that just seem to be that much better than everyone else. Now, I'm not accusing anyone, but we've all heard it before... "OMG TRx are all hackers, OMG Delta Triad are all hackers, Malibu are all hackers, blah blah blah"

 

Stealth hackers seem to kill people in one less shot, run just that much faster, reload that much quicker.

 

Hard to detect, because it isn't like firing 10,000 extra bullets at someone, just firing an extra round every 5 or 6 shots that makes the kill easier. Not an instant reload, just shaving off that extra 1/8 of a second. Not sprinting at light speed, but moving with more agility than is possible.

 

When they're confronted, they'll hide behind "LOL you're just bad" /tells or using junk science explain that their Packet Loss or their FPS had something to do with it. Yeah, maybe it did. Happens to all of us at some point... but not all the time.

 

It really is a shame people can't just PLAY THE DAMN GAME THE WAY IT'S MEANT TO BE PLAYED.

 

 




Master at Arms

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robo wrote:

It really is a shame people can't just PLAY THE DAMN GAME THE WAY IT'S MEANT TO BE PLAYED.

They want to win the game.


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Joined: Mar 21, 2004
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SabreTooth wrote:

Seriously the last few hours has been bordering on a bad joke.

Currently there is one on nc called llllllllllllllllllll and has been for a while altho we have been spared (nelsonmuntzPS) since we tked his ass and the vs did the same to lllllllllllll also for a similair result.

We shouldnt be wasting our time tkin these people tho when /appeal are not being delt with.

These trial accounts are getting beyond a joke now so please end them if nothing can be done to control the hackers as its THESE asswipes who are doin it.

Just FYI this clown NelsonMuntz has accounts on all empires and swaps around.  He was just on as NC 1 shot killed a VS gen and held it for a good 20min till I logged off in disgust.  He must have killed 100 VS during that time, was 1 shot killing uber max, able to switch armor at will, he was even able to respawn himself if we did bum rush him with a squad and go all out.  He was "NelsonMuntzNC" during that one, so apparently the morons running planetside can't even get one cheater that is so bold as to even use NelsonMuntz on his various cheating charaters. 

Oh yeah and it isn't nelsonmuntz... he is using bar code I for the L... nick is actually "neisonmutzNC"... probably thinks that will cull some of the appeals on his lame ass.

I've had a sub since 2004, but I gotta' say I'm getting very close to saying to hell with this game if sony doesn't pull their heads away from their collective arses. 


Message edited by 007 on 04/20/2009 17:56:26.


Master at Arms

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SOE is working around to clock to prevent hackers within planetside.      Rest easy fellas.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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