Easy mode!
Estimate your obviously not a long time player or a long time bad one if you want a weapon that requires no skill to use or to learn how to use effectively, what does that say about you mate lol. I myself am TR and haven't changed for 5+ years I dont like pink or yellow lol but for ages I sucked with Mcg untill i found out fps played a major role in its use and even then i had to learn to use it properly. The vids by Rizzuh/Rza always made me envious and i tried to copy of them but it wasn't till i adopted my own load out of agile and play style that I started to get good at using it.
Almost all weapons should be the same, you should need to spend a fair bit of time with a weapon to be effective with it and alot of the VS vets learned how to use their HA and tore us up with it.
Kanya hit every nail on the spot. its not ever the dmg of the orb or the lash that need adjusted or AP mode the lasher needs a unique trait and the instant AP mode was it and the hitting ppl behind cover was its secondary. just adjust the orb speed so its possible to atleast dodge a few, yes we will still get hit by the lash but it still makes it effective and gives enemies that extra chance of surivival if they are even some what talent.
"Brewko - we were guilty of testing it and asking for changes which you made for us VS, but in hindsight we truly had no idea of the impact these changes would make to the game overall."
Only problem there is Kanya he didnt change the Lasher for the VS, he changed it to suit himself, as he said the other day, the lasher will stay the same for as long as he is on VS. He used to be NC if I recall when the JH was the king weapon
I dont want the weapon that requires no skill, i want to keep an idea up.
Swazzy wrote:
Only problem there is Kanya he didnt change the Lasher for the VS, he changed it to suit himself, as he said the other day, the lasher will stay the same for as long as he is on VS.
This.
As I've said, Brewko is a moron and a noob. He's essentially a cheater licensed by SOE. If you really want to ruin his fun, don't log on VS till they're low-pop even with the buffed lasher and sanc lock them. Then watch BO be given to the few remaining VS. At that point if I'm in-game I will personally pull JH's for the TR to camp VS-turned-BO in their spawn tubes.
TheBrucolac wrote:
If you really want to ruin his fun, don't log on VS till they're low-pop even with the buffed lasher and sanc lock them. Then watch BO be given to the few remaining VS. At that point if I'm in-game I will personally pull JH's for the TR to camp VS-turned-BO in their spawn tubes.
It's coming to this. Everytime I log on VS the fights for us are just dismal. The TR and NC just keep fighting each other because they don't want to deal with the Lasher.
Guarnere wrote:
TheBrucolac wrote:If you really want to ruin his fun, don't log on VS till they're low-pop even with the buffed lasher and sanc lock them. Then watch BO be given to the few remaining VS. At that point if I'm in-game I will personally pull JH's for the TR to camp VS-turned-BO in their spawn tubes.It's coming to this. Everytime I log on VS the fights for us are just dismal. The TR and NC just keep fighting each other because they don't want to deal with the Lasher.
Stop nubbing it up on VS and play TR. It's lonely on TR, nobody in TO logs in nowadays.
Kanya wrote:
We play VS as historically we were the underdogs - I miss that as does most of my outfit. We all learned how to use the lasher, learning lead, how the lash works and now...any new player can pick the gun up and look like they've played VS for years. It's too easy to use now.
VS were only the underdogs i would say in the first like 4months of the game. in terms of weapon balance. the TR had basically every vehicle and weapon ever nerfed and a fraction of its previous glory. TR more times than not are the empire (emmy wise) to be double teamed. the vs were a power house (yes basically because of DT) and didnt become the "under dog empire" till dt left. after that point DARK did a pretty good job of picking up the empire.
bottom line is TR have weapons that are not the best in any of the categories basically (maybe just maybe 1 or 2) and if there was a tracker that showed who was double teamed the most (granted yes one empire has to be on it) the TR would definatly have the most time on it by far.
Kanemiler wrote:
Kanya wrote:We play VS as historically we were the underdogs - I miss that as does most of my outfit. We all learned how to use the lasher, learning lead, how the lash works and now...any new player can pick the gun up and look like they've played VS for years. It's too easy to use now. VS were only the underdogs i would say in the first like 4months of the game. in terms of weapon balance. the TR had basically every vehicle and weapon ever nerfed and a fraction of its previous glory. TR more times than not are the empire (emmy wise) to be double teamed. the vs were a power house (yes basically because of DT) and didnt become the "under dog empire" till dt left. after that point DARK did a pretty good job of picking up the empire.bottom line is TR have weapons that are not the best in any of the categories basically (maybe just maybe 1 or 2) and if there was a tracker that showed who was double teamed the most (granted yes one empire has to be on it) the TR would definatly have the most time on it by far.
Or a tracker for kills across each Empire. For sure many more TR have fallen.
F'ing lame Lasher. It makes even terrible players A-OK.
Chronicle wrote:
Guarnere wrote:TheBrucolac wrote:If you really want to ruin his fun, don't log on VS till they're low-pop even with the buffed lasher and sanc lock them. Then watch BO be given to the few remaining VS. At that point if I'm in-game I will personally pull JH's for the TR to camp VS-turned-BO in their spawn tubes.It's coming to this. Everytime I log on VS the fights for us are just dismal. The TR and NC just keep fighting each other because they don't want to deal with the Lasher.Stop nubbing it up on VS and play TR. It's lonely on TR, nobody in TO logs in nowadays.
I'm playing TR today!
*clears throat* Lynx(tr) would like to say something but since hes a wimp i have to say it
it goes something a little like this
"Sorry to tell you this guys, but unfortunately it seems there isn't going to be a lasher nerf anytime soon. The proof is last week when playing VS a friend of mine said when he asked Brewko is the lasher going to get nerfed anytime soon? Brewko answered, "since i'm still playing VS then no, the lasher will stay as it is.". Believe it if you want, but this is SOE and i wouldn't put it past them, sorry this thread isn't going to achieve anything it seems since the devs have their own ideals in order before ours."
enjoy my little buttmunchkins
I knew I should of taken a screen shot...But at the event Brewko did a world broadcast joking about increasing the lasher's clip. I think it's disgusting how they see an issue that many players and angry with yet they will still poke fun at it.
I'll post your "definitions" after I finish work.
Proceed.
Couldn't remind you sooner as I was temporary banned from the forums
angelphantasma wrote:I still don't get why people depend on pshield. You can proceed too. Be so kind and tell me where's the difference between weapons/implants/tactics that are "acceptable" for winning a fight, and those that are "depended on" for winning a fight (right?), and are thus unacceptable and/or cheap and/or noobish or whatever...?Seriously, tell me where's the demarcation line between those groups.
angelphantasma wrote:
I still don't get why people depend on pshield.
You can proceed too. Be so kind and tell me where's the difference between weapons/implants/tactics that are "acceptable" for winning a fight, and those that are "depended on" for winning a fight (right?), and are thus unacceptable and/or cheap and/or noobish or whatever...?
Seriously, tell me where's the demarcation line between those groups.
Tatranka wrote:
That's easy. If a person uses it, its the way the game "should be" played. If it contributes to that persons death at any point especially ending a K/D streak then its unacceptable and noobish. Therefore the game should just be Rexo-HA loadouts. Won't need AV anymore 'cause we should do away with MAX's and all vehicles should be is a quick way to get from base to base cause lasher spam in a stairwell is what this game is "supposed" to be about.
What makes a "good" fight? What some like others don't but that is what I thought is so great about PS... or atleast when it has a large enough pop. Depending on the fight style you prefer there should be that style somewhere. Indoor or outdoor, air or whatever. I don't understand why a near stairwell stalemate is considered a "good" fight and dropping the gen to move on and fight a new battle be it a bridge battle or just a new base, is considered ruining the fight. As long as its not some teleport hacker doing it, OR done when the CC can be taken without doing it, I just don't get it.
back on topic:
Dear dev team, it seems that you solved "hacking" issue, could you please work out balance patch for lasher? Look what many vs want, and we support it either: make it old lasher but with 30 clip and av mode.
Daaaam, i forgot how to use old lasher.
ok, leave this one be
