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Elder

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Right now, I'm currently running with Stre, Prec, and BV.
With BC, CHD, and Parry.

No matter what anybody says, I use Heroism, and Heroism only. I have the other sets, but Heroism>Guardian imo. Even though my main Defense that I'm stacking is Block.

So, right now, I seem to do, "Alright."

Just wondering if I could get any tips?

Now, I will be switching my expertise to this:

Now, as you can see, I dropped the Extra 3 Points in Reflect, the reason I did that is because I honestly don't care how hard I hit. Plus with those points gone, I can get Force Clarity, and Anticipate Aggresion. I don't mind hitting like a wet noodle. The reason I even got Reflect was for the 5% to Parry.

Also, I grabbed the FR speed so I can LoS more, and LolTrackStar more .

Now you might say, "Well, if you don't care if you hit like a wet noodle, than why did you get Force Shockwave." Well, I grabbed it because it's a CoE. It's nice to hit everyone within the radius, and it's nice to keep a TEF on Somebody. Also nice to kill running people who have barely any health left.

Any help would be Appreciated .


Message edited by Treko on 06/09/2009 13:55:16.



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DeekoLight16 wrote:

Right now, I'm currently running with Stre, Prec, and BV.
With BC, CHD, and Parry.

No matter what anybody says, I use Heroism, and Heroism only. I have the other sets, but Heroism>Guardian imo. Even though my main Defense that I'm stacking is Block.

So, right now, I seem to do, "Alright."

Just wondering if I could get any tips?

Now, I will be switching my expertise to this:

Now, as you can see, I dropped the Extra 3 Points in Reflect, the reason I did that is because I honestly don't care how hard I hit. Plus with those points gone, I can get Force Clarity, and Anticipate Aggresion. I don't mind hitting like a wet noodle. The reason I even got Reflect was for the 5% to Parry.

Also, I grabbed the FR speed so I can LoS more, and LolTrackStar more .

Now you might say, "Well, if you don't care if you hit like a wet noodle, than why did you get Force Shockwave." Well, I grabbed it because it's a CoE. It's nice to hit everyone within the radius, and it's nice to keep a TEF on Somebody. Also nice to kill running people who have barely any health left.

Any help would be Appreciated .

Interesting set-up.  It just seems that using any block with your set-up is wasted.  If you're using heroism, and damage isn't an issue for you, why not use CHD, GB, GB (ranged)?  Personally, I'd get full saber reflect, and use CHD, GB (or GB ranged), and Saber damage.  Then I would use maybe 2 CHD and one saber damage pup, or 2 saber damage and 1 CHD pup...With LSJ you already have awesome defenses, so personally I'd concentrate on getting as much damage as I could off of exotics....The saber damage pups and attachment will help, esp if you had full reflect.  To me I'd get as much damage as I could squeze out of it.




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ElessarTelcontar wrote:

DeekoLight16 wrote:

Right now, I'm currently running with Stre, Prec, and BV.
With BC, CHD, and Parry.

No matter what anybody says, I use Heroism, and Heroism only. I have the other sets, but Heroism>Guardian imo. Even though my main Defense that I'm stacking is Block.

So, right now, I seem to do, "Alright."

Just wondering if I could get any tips?

Now, I will be switching my expertise to this:

Now, as you can see, I dropped the Extra 3 Points in Reflect, the reason I did that is because I honestly don't care how hard I hit. Plus with those points gone, I can get Force Clarity, and Anticipate Aggresion. I don't mind hitting like a wet noodle. The reason I even got Reflect was for the 5% to Parry.

Also, I grabbed the FR speed so I can LoS more, and LolTrackStar more .

Now you might say, "Well, if you don't care if you hit like a wet noodle, than why did you get Force Shockwave." Well, I grabbed it because it's a CoE. It's nice to hit everyone within the radius, and it's nice to keep a TEF on Somebody. Also nice to kill running people who have barely any health left.

Any help would be Appreciated .

Interesting set-up.  It just seems that using any block with your set-up is wasted.  If you're using heroism, and damage isn't an issue for you, why not use CHD, GB, GB (ranged)?  Personally, I'd get full saber reflect, and use CHD, GB (or GB ranged), and Saber damage.  Then I would use maybe 2 CHD and one saber damage pup, or 2 saber damage and 1 CHD pup...With LSJ you already have awesome defenses, so personally I'd concentrate on getting as much damage as I could off of exotics....The saber damage pups and attachment will help, esp if you had full reflect.  To me I'd get as much damage as I could squeze out of it.

Thanks, some of what you said is nice, but I'd like to make my defenses really tough. Yes, we can already tank, but if I wanted to do damage, I'd go DSJ. But I'll take the CHD and GB into Consideration, thank you.




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Jedi is to good nobody stops him pleas eat lot of good foode you grow up strongar bettre jedis



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gungan_garbonzo wrote:

Jedi is to good nobody stops him pleas eat lot of good foode you grow up strongar bettre jedis

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Alright, concerning your expertise: If I were you I would choose either Force Run or Force Cloak and use the extra points elsewhere. I personally don't use either, since cloak rarely is useful in PVP and I'd rather put the force run points to better use. Id rather have my points used so that I can win the fight rather than run but thats just me. Definetly drop some points on the extra points on reflect IMO, because if your going to use that ability, you might as well get the most out of it. And as for shockwave, if you arent going for any sort of offense this is useless. Yes you can hit multiple people, but you arent even scratching them. At least take this and add it to some defense.

Now for your suit: in my opinion, a Jedi's best friend is glancing blow. With expertise you start with a high gb value, and you can improve it up to at least 45% with various buffs. For a Jedi, this is better than block because you can only get block chance so high. Yes, your block value is ok because you stack it on your seas, but you still only have 5 pieces of clothing (shoes, pants, belt, shirt, gloves) to put it on, and thats if your not wearing the Bado Bas belt. So if you stack block, you are only stopping around 175 points (5 x 35 = 175) unless you find some other buff to get it higher, but even then its only so much. Glancing blow gives you a ton more defense because its based off a percentage (cant remember it atm). If you are still worried about block, your strength and precision should be adequate enough.

IMO the best way for you to stack SEAs is strength, precision, and agility on the normals and GB (ranged), GB (Melee), and CHD on the exotics. PuPs I would experiment between the GBs, CHD, and maybe even a few offensive stats a little bit with to see what you like.

This is how I would make the most out of a defensive suit. Your style may or may not match mine so this suit may or may not match your style. I recommend at least trying it out because it is extremely effective for a tank. I have put a little offense into my suit cause I hate not having any dps, but if you want all defense this is the way to go.

Good luck!




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gungan_garbonzo wrote:

Jedi is to good nobody stops him pleas eat lot of good foode you grow up strongar bettre jedis


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KarnBros9590 wrote:

Alright, concerning your expertise: If I were you I would choose either Force Run or Force Cloak and use the extra points elsewhere. I personally don't use either, since cloak rarely is useful in PVP and I'd rather put the force run points to better use. Id rather have my points used so that I can win the fight rather than run but thats just me. Definetly drop some points on the extra points on reflect IMO, because if your going to use that ability, you might as well get the most out of it. And as for shockwave, if you arent going for any sort of offense this is useless. Yes you can hit multiple people, but you arent even scratching them. At least take this and add it to some defense.

Now for your suit: in my opinion, a Jedi's best friend is glancing blow. With expertise you start with a high gb value, and you can improve it up to at least 45% with various buffs. For a Jedi, this is better than block because you can only get block chance so high. Yes, your block value is ok because you stack it on your seas, but you still only have 5 pieces of clothing (shoes, pants, belt, shirt, gloves) to put it on, and thats if your not wearing the Bado Bas belt. So if you stack block, you are only stopping around 175 points (5 x 35 = 175) unless you find some other buff to get it higher, but even then its only so much. Glancing blow gives you a ton more defense because its based off a percentage (cant remember it atm). If you are still worried about block, your strength and precision should be adequate enough.

IMO the best way for you to stack SEAs is strength, precision, and agility on the normals and GB (ranged), GB (Melee), and CHD on the exotics. PuPs I would experiment between the GBs, CHD, and maybe even a few offensive stats a little bit with to see what you like.

This is how I would make the most out of a defensive suit. Your style may or may not match mine so this suit may or may not match your style. I recommend at least trying it out because it is extremely effective for a tank. I have put a little offense into my suit cause I hate not having any dps, but if you want all defense this is the way to go.

Good luck!

Ok, this looks really solid, and I'll try it out. The reason I get Force Run Speed, and Force Cloak, because I run as fast as a barc this way, I need 4 points to get from Tier 3 to Tier 4 and Exacting Strikes doesn't really fit my needs imo. Now, cloak, I think is very viable, now if you cloak right in front of them, you deserve to be brtually hurt. Run away, Cloak. They won't be able to see you as easily.

Now, Stre gives you To-Hit Bonus and Block Chance/Value. Useful if you're stacking block, with the suit you posted, I'm not. Same with Prec, it gives you Striketrhough, Crit Chance, and Block Chance. I'll try it out none the less, and I appreciate the **edit**!




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DeekoLight16 wrote:

KarnBros9590 wrote:

Alright, concerning your expertise: If I were you I would choose either Force Run or Force Cloak and use the extra points elsewhere. I personally don't use either, since cloak rarely is useful in PVP and I'd rather put the force run points to better use. Id rather have my points used so that I can win the fight rather than run but thats just me. Definetly drop some points on the extra points on reflect IMO, because if your going to use that ability, you might as well get the most out of it. And as for shockwave, if you arent going for any sort of offense this is useless. Yes you can hit multiple people, but you arent even scratching them. At least take this and add it to some defense.

Now for your suit: in my opinion, a Jedi's best friend is glancing blow. With expertise you start with a high gb value, and you can improve it up to at least 45% with various buffs. For a Jedi, this is better than block because you can only get block chance so high. Yes, your block value is ok because you stack it on your seas, but you still only have 5 pieces of clothing (shoes, pants, belt, shirt, gloves) to put it on, and thats if your not wearing the Bado Bas belt. So if you stack block, you are only stopping around 175 points (5 x 35 = 175) unless you find some other buff to get it higher, but even then its only so much. Glancing blow gives you a ton more defense because its based off a percentage (cant remember it atm). If you are still worried about block, your strength and precision should be adequate enough.

IMO the best way for you to stack SEAs is strength, precision, and agility on the normals and GB (ranged), GB (Melee), and CHD on the exotics. PuPs I would experiment between the GBs, CHD, and maybe even a few offensive stats a little bit with to see what you like.

This is how I would make the most out of a defensive suit. Your style may or may not match mine so this suit may or may not match your style. I recommend at least trying it out because it is extremely effective for a tank. I have put a little offense into my suit cause I hate not having any dps, but if you want all defense this is the way to go.

Good luck!

Ok, this looks really solid, and I'll try it out. The reason I get Force Run Speed, and Force Cloak, because I run as fast as a barc this way, I need 4 points to get from Tier 3 to Tier 4 and Exacting Strikes doesn't really fit my needs imo. Now, cloak, I think is very viable, now if you cloak right in front of them, you deserve to be brtually hurt. Run away, Cloak. They won't be able to see you as easily.

Now, Stre gives you To-Hit Bonus and Block Chance/Value. Useful if you're stacking block, with the suit you posted, I'm not. Same with Prec, it gives you Striketrhough, Crit Chance, and Block Chance. I'll try it out none the less, and I appreciate the **edit**!

I think you will find that this suit works for just about anything, PVP and PVE alike. Some tweaks may need to be made down the road to match your style, but other then that you really cant go wrong with it. Remember to post your results. Good luck




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You're doing it wrong.




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United wrote:

You're doing it wrong.

True.

Why are you stacking defense? It's worthless as a LSJ.

 

Io



Elder

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Iopoppy wrote:

United wrote:

You're doing it wrong.

True.

Why are you stacking defense? It's worthless as a LSJ.

 

Io

Because, as it's been posted- LSJ has no use in Mass PvP. They're not a DPS class, obviously, they're good meat shields. And where I play, people hate me. They target me, instead of others, I'm there to take damage not deal it.




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Crap suit is crap.


Elder

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United wrote:

Crap suit is crap.

I see that you say it's crap, yet no advice? If I could get some that'd be awesome. I'm trying out these other suits that others have posted.




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DeekoLight16 wrote:

United wrote:

Crap suit is crap.

I see that you say it's crap, yet no advice? If I could get some that'd be awesome. I'm trying out these other suits that others have posted.

Agi/Con/STR

Crit/Lightsaber Damage/Glancing Blow (Melee)

PuPs: 2 Crit and 1 GB Range/Melee (Depending on Circumstance)

 

Io

 
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