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Journeyman

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With the last patch, the Righteous Breastplate of the Apprentice just got nerfed to the ground from a

5% to 1% proc rate.  Whats the point of spending countless hours striving for rare hi quality gear in this game

when it gets thoughtlessly nerfed down into oblivion the next day?  Devs, please consider this:

 

     1)  This is an extremely rare Mythic level item that is difficult to obtain.  It is classified by

     Vanguard players (The Official Site) as a Relic.

     2)  At a 1% proc rate, you rarely see it proc at all.

     3)  And even if it does proc (which is rare), you only gain 1 vp, which you can't do much with. 

     Remember vp always resets to maximum every 16-20 min anyways.

 

While 5% is high, a 1% proc rate is too low for a Mythic quality item. 

 

Please think about this and consider raising the proc rate.

Thank you for your time.

 

Goldbeard

Lvl 51 sad pally

Seradon

 

P.S.  This high end rare Paladin Breastplate deserves to be loved not nerfed. 8(

 

    

 


Message edited by goldbeard on 05/27/2009 22:49:06.


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Fix this man's breastplate ffs!



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At 5% this thing was proccing so much that you would never run out of virtue points, even chain using the better virtue abilities.  It was way overpowered.  It's now set to 1% proc on attack to restore a virtue point, which seems to be pretty decent in my testing.  I belive Silius just added a message to the proc though so you can tell when it's going off giving back the point.  Give it a try with the proc message now, it should feel a little better.  But it was never intended to be a 100% virtue all the time item.  Its effects are also probably more noticible on long raid fights where you can't use RS to regain all your virtue too.




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Thanks for answering my post Ikik. 

Yes I agree at 5% it did proc too much, but even at 5% I still frequently ran out of VP points down to 0.  Then again my style of play was to burn VP alot to lock aggro on trash mobs in SOD.  At 1% as you know it procs way way less (btw I still almost never see it proc), so I was wondering if you tested it at 2% or 3% proc?  You have to admit that going down from 5% to 1% is a pretty steep drop. 

1% proc means one proc every 100 attacks, or one proc every 3.3 minutes.  Since you're only fighting about half the time, its more like one proc, or one vp, every 6-7 minutes, with reset to max vp every 16-20 min anyways.  That's a pretty low rate for a rare Mythic / Relic item imho.

 

- Goldbeard

P.S. Even before Silius added that extra proc line you could see a message whenever the BP procced.  It's always been there.

P.P.S.  For raids, if a pally wanted to maximize vp before a big boss fight there are other things he can do, so the BP is not necessary.  This BP was useful for tanking trash mobs in SOD, but it no longer is now that its been nerfed down to 1%.


Message edited by goldbeard on 05/30/2009 23:45:40.


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I Have to agree with Goldbeard,

 

The BP is a mythic/relic item that while at 5% was a lot of proc, the 1% change is imho opinion, just a bit much *grins* in the percentage it now has to proc in an engagement, considering that most dont last long when fighting trash mobs. Maybe a compromise could be reached...say 3%, if only in how difficult the BP is to aquire and it's rareity.

 

While I am also a paladin, I am not into real heavy raiding nor does hardcore raiding appeal to me, so its very unlikely I will get the BP that Goldbeard has, so I dont think my post could be considered as self serving. Just an opinon and request for a balanced and happy medium.

 

Mcangusoone

Seradon



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Ikik wrote:

At 5% this thing was proccing so much that you would never run out of virtue points, even chain using the better virtue abilities.  It was way overpowered.  It's now set to 1% proc on attack to restore a virtue point, which seems to be pretty decent in my testing.  I belive Silius just added a message to the proc though so you can tell when it's going off giving back the point.  Give it a try with the proc message now, it should feel a little better.  But it was never intended to be a 100% virtue all the time item.  Its effects are also probably more noticible on long raid fights where you can't use RS to regain all your virtue too.

I'll try the new message, as I autolog an all inclusive chat tab.  However, I was timing it with my G15 which has a countdown timer.  The normal regen was once every 2 minutes.  So I would make sure I had less than 24 virtue points at any given time.  I would average about 1 proc every 4-5 minutes.  Then you have to factor in that proc debuff, and it goes to about 10 minutes.  Let's not forget the mobs that strip all your buff off.  I swear they strip off the mythic's buff.  But, seeing how /abilitiesattached no longer works and it doesn't have a static buff (even when it did, I swear it would still break), I can't verify it.

5% was overpowered but 1% is underpowered for a mythic.  I've been switching back and forth between my Green Dragonscale Breastplate because in places like PotA, it is a sub-par BP.




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Put it back to 5% and give mobs ability to steal VP randomly.


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Guenievre wrote:

Put it back to 5% and give mobs ability to steal VP randomly.

Done and done.




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Stealing virtue will get the game M rated.

I don't think Silius was serious, but if he was you need to add a lot more of +virtue regen gear because a bp that drop every 32th day of the month is not going to cut it.


Message edited by bylbok on 06/01/2009 08:39:40.


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After his 'What is a DK?' string in the test forums, yeah, I'd say he's just responding in turn to the outrageous requests.




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Psychoticjer wrote:

After his 'What is a DK?' string in the test forums, yeah, I'd say he's just responding in turn to the outrageous requests.


Joking in test forums is one thing (dont seem most 'normal' players even read it), but I would be a bit more carefull in game issue or general forums. Unless Sil wants to drive his playerbase crazy with all kinda rumours of course. 




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Azzy wrote:

Psychoticjer wrote:

After his 'What is a DK?' string in the test forums, yeah, I'd say he's just responding in turn to the outrageous requests.


Joking in test forums is one thing (dont seem most 'normal' players even read it), but I would be a bit more carefull in game issue or general forums. Unless Sil wants to drive his playerbase crazy with all kinda rumours of course. 

reroll warrior azzy! we need warrior!




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Azzy wrote:

Psychoticjer wrote:

After his 'What is a DK?' string in the test forums, yeah, I'd say he's just responding in turn to the outrageous requests.


Joking in test forums is one thing (dont seem most 'normal' players even read it), but I would be a bit more carefull in game issue or general forums. Unless Sil wants to drive his playerbase crazy with all kinda rumours of course. 

Yeah, crazy rumours is our job!

 


Message edited by chindi on 06/01/2009 10:41:59.



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Azzy wrote:

Psychoticjer wrote:

After his 'What is a DK?' string in the test forums, yeah, I'd say he's just responding in turn to the outrageous requests.


Joking in test forums is one thing (dont seem most 'normal' players even read it), but I would be a bit more carefull in game issue or general forums. Unless Sil wants to drive his playerbase crazy with all kinda rumours of course. 

Heh...and how many times has his humor ruffled feathers in the GD forum?  If nothing else, I'm sure there'd be a few more pallies logging into test to see if it's true or not.  More players on test!  Goal achieved!  SMILEY


 
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