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Systemic Anomaly

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Neoteny wrote:
GamiSB wrote:
Neoteny wrote:

I don't understand, Kiddo. You want the System messed up, so why stop his programs?

Jesus... I know I sound like a broken record, but it just doesn't make any goddamn sense.

Yeah I know man what the hell....wait....maybe....just maybe.....it doesn't make sense because that isn't what EPN is after?

Radical concept I know but just throwing that out there.


That's all EPN's ever told me that they've been after. And if not the end of the System, the end of the Machines, then what is it that you're after? This is the organization that tried to attack the power lines, is it not?

Key word is "power lines", not the simulation or the Machine. We're not interested in killing off an entire race. Not interested in shutting down a system either. Instead were intersted in giveing everyone a choice.

 




Systemic Anomaly

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I'd like to thank all two members of EPN that actually showed up.

Would've been nice to have a vague idea that something might go down at 12:30 am EST.

Good game.


Message edited by Archangel on 02/12/2008 05:21:43.



Mainframe Invader

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Neoteny wrote:
GamiSB wrote:
Neoteny wrote:

I don't understand, Kiddo. You want the System messed up, so why stop his programs?

Jesus... I know I sound like a broken record, but it just doesn't make any goddamn sense.

Yeah I know man what the hell....wait....maybe....just maybe.....it doesn't make sense because that isn't what EPN is after?

Radical concept I know but just throwing that out there.


That's all EPN's ever told me that they've been after. And if not the end of the System, the end of the Machines, then what is it that you're after? This is the organization that tried to attack the power lines, is it not?

While some EPN might want the system to be destoryed, I personally just want everyone to be given the choice of awakening or not, if they still wish to stay in the simulation then so be it, I've never wanted the destruction of the system as many people innocent people would die.

Peace is what I want were everyone can make the choice to wake up or not, but now with war its not going to happen.

But because I want the machines gone dosn't mean I want to bring down the system and kill millions of innocents




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Archangel wrote:

I'd like to thank all two members of EPN that actually showed up.

Would've been nice to have a vague idea that something might go down at 12:30 am EST.

Good game.

...Seriously doubt even LESIG knew.


Systemic Anomaly

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Phrack wrote:
Archangel wrote:

I'd like to thank all two members of EPN that actually showed up.

Would've been nice to have a vague idea that something might go down at 12:30 am EST.

Good game.

...Seriously doubt even LESIG knew.
And yet...this is still probably EPN's live event for the month.

odj


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Archangel wrote:
Phrack wrote:
Archangel wrote:

I'd like to thank all two members of EPN that actually showed up.

Would've been nice to have a vague idea that something might go down at 12:30 am EST.

Good game.

...Seriously doubt even LESIG knew.
And yet...this is still probably EPN's live event for the month.
It better clucking not be.



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aracher wrote:
Neoteny wrote:
GamiSB wrote:
Neoteny wrote:

I don't understand, Kiddo. You want the System messed up, so why stop his programs?

Jesus... I know I sound like a broken record, but it just doesn't make any goddamn sense.

Yeah I know man what the hell....wait....maybe....just maybe.....it doesn't make sense because that isn't what EPN is after?

Radical concept I know but just throwing that out there.


That's all EPN's ever told me that they've been after. And if not the end of the System, the end of the Machines, then what is it that you're after? This is the organization that tried to attack the power lines, is it not?

While some EPN might want the system to be destoryed, I personally just want everyone to be given the choice of awakening or not, if they still wish to stay in the simulation then so be it, I've never wanted the destruction of the system as many people innocent people would die.

Peace is what I want were everyone can make the choice to wake up or not, but now with war its not going to happen.

But because I want the machines gone dosn't mean I want to bring down the system and kill millions of innocents

It seems that not everyone agrees with your view Neoteny including, it seems at the moment, Popper. Whilst I still disagree with their main concept of being rid of the Machines at least these people aren't willing to sacrifice thousands of innocent bluepills doing so as you yourself have stated would be willing to do.

You seem more and more like a follower of TaeCross than a follower of Popper and EPN...

Message edited by Croesis on 02/12/2008 13:24:51.


Vindicator

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odj wrote:
Archangel wrote:
Phrack wrote:
Archangel wrote:

I'd like to thank all two members of EPN that actually showed up.

Would've been nice to have a vague idea that something might go down at 12:30 am EST.

Good game.

...Seriously doubt even LESIG knew.
And yet...this is still probably EPN's live event for the month.
It better clucking not be.
((I unfortunately think it will be for this server and this month, because rewards were handed out to Dem and I.  Also, neither liaison was online at the time, nor I can't recall if Reposco said he knew or not.  I'm leaning toward not.))

aracher wrote:
Neoteny wrote:
GamiSB wrote:
Neoteny wrote:

I don't understand, Kiddo. You want the System messed up, so why stop his programs?

Jesus... I know I sound like a broken record, but it just doesn't make any goddamn sense.

Yeah I know man what the hell....wait....maybe....just maybe.....it doesn't make sense because that isn't what EPN is after?

Radical concept I know but just throwing that out there.


That's all EPN's ever told me that they've been after. And if not the end of the System, the end of the Machines, then what is it that you're after? This is the organization that tried to attack the power lines, is it not?

While some EPN might want the system to be destoryed, I personally just want everyone to be given the choice of awakening or not, if they still wish to stay in the simulation then so be it, I've never wanted the destruction of the system as many people innocent people would die.

Peace is what I want were everyone can make the choice to wake up or not, but now with war its not going to happen.

But because I want the machines gone dosn't mean I want to bring down the system and kill millions of innocents


As for my personal opinions of what my beliefs are and why I'm in EPN, they lie in my personal dissatisfaction with Zion Command, like many of us.  But I'm not willing to let the bluepills die for any reason, ever.  I am mostly on the same mindset with aracher, and you will find many Neonates ((on Recursion)) thinking the same way.

Message edited by LtCmdr_Tsusai on 02/12/2008 13:56:52.



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BS.

 

 

~Darminian




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Darminian wrote:

BS.

 

 

~Darminian


QFT.


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Attention Crusaders,

I'm sorry I haven't replied to this report earlier, but I'm just letting you know that I was on guard duty as Michael jacked in and cleared these *CENSORED* programs out of the Simulation... and about this month's operation, I can confirm it's still in the planning stage, any further questions can be directed to my private data drop here on DN1... or you can get a hold of me in the Simulation.


Neo Bless You
Reposco



Vindicator

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Vinia wrote:
aracher wrote:
Neoteny wrote:
GamiSB wrote:
Neoteny wrote:

I don't understand, Kiddo. You want the System messed up, so why stop his programs?

Jesus... I know I sound like a broken record, but it just doesn't make any goddamn sense.

Yeah I know man what the hell....wait....maybe....just maybe.....it doesn't make sense because that isn't what EPN is after?

Radical concept I know but just throwing that out there.


That's all EPN's ever told me that they've been after. And if not the end of the System, the end of the Machines, then what is it that you're after? This is the organization that tried to attack the power lines, is it not?

While some EPN might want the system to be destoryed, I personally just want everyone to be given the choice of awakening or not, if they still wish to stay in the simulation then so be it, I've never wanted the destruction of the system as many people innocent people would die.

Peace is what I want were everyone can make the choice to wake up or not, but now with war its not going to happen.

But because I want the machines gone dosn't mean I want to bring down the system and kill millions of innocents

It seems that not everyone agrees with your view Neoteny including, it seems at the moment, Popper. Whilst I still disagree with their main concept of being rid of the Machines at least these people aren't willing to sacrifice thousands of innocent bluepills doing so as you yourself have stated would be willing to do.

You seem more and more like a follower of TaeCross than a follower of Popper and EPN...


TaeCross? No, TaeCross was an idiot. If you'd ever spoken to him, you'd have found that abundantly clear. His only follower was Dezreki, and he was rabid enough to keep anyone else away.

I don't follow EPN, anyway. I've always been a Zionite, it's more than likely that I always will be. But I can tell you that I've gone from Morphite to radical anti-Morphite views, and that I'm leaning towards Morphite views again. I've always said that I'd be perfectly willing to resort to Code Bombs and the like, whatever necessary, to protect free humanity and destroy the Machines in the case of war. I'm not going to pretend to be anything less than what I am, of course. I'm not concerned with keeping up appearances as some others are.

I am, however, disappointed in EPN at this point. I'd have thought they'd understand the stakes more than anyone. But they got soft within their first few weeks, and that came back all too quickly after the breaking of the Truce. I reckon if anyone out there still understands, it'd be Foxxdie and the Prophets of Peace, but hell, even Fox has fallen in with EPN.

And I'll be damned if I haven't said that peace is the most desirable outcome over and over, but it's all on the Machine side, and it doesn't look like it's anywhere near imminent, like the possiblity of our demise does.




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Because we don't want to kill Blue Pills does not mean we have gone soft. Innocents deserve to live even if it is a lie, we will continue to fight the machines as hard as we can during this time of war.


Asa


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Procurator wrote:
The_Kid wrote:
There's no denying that when it comes to messing up the system, he's a better hacker than we are right now.
Than you are 'right now'? Don't tell me you think you're actually going to be that good in the future. Even I don't see myself being that good ever, let alone some punk skateboard kid and his gang of scruffy emos.

Correction: Some punk skater kid who could kick you *CENSORED* and leave you crying for your mommy without breaking a sweat.

Anyways, if EPN are all talking about stances I'd like to say that if it comes down to it, I'd blow this whole city to hell.




Systemic Anomaly

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We're talking about hacking skill, not MA proficiency. I've never professed to be a good fighter.

And I'm far less likely to go crying for my mommy than The_Prat is. What was it that ZAITSO program said about Michael's mum...?

 
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