[10.1.3] "EPN transfers Lock to Zion due to a now safe and secure battlefield" - Recursion - 4/23/08

**Procurator**

NightTrace wrote:

[Cause I transfered and it put me at 0 rank points right away? Because not everyone has been intrested from the start? Because even if I had been Cyph and been in as many matches as before Zion/mervs already had rank 1 ships before I started? /shrug.]
At least we didn't leave the stuck up mechs by themselves by turning around and leaving the area to track down the mystery ship. Would have been more useful then sticking around to watch you flounder after letting us get pinned between Zion and EPN.

Letting you get pinned? Heh. I'm blaming the overall failure on the Cypherites, I'm not blaming you for any situations our combatants got into. But it's our fault if you get stuck?

And yes, you're right: not everyone has been interested from the start. The ones that weren't were mostly Cypherites. They've had a pitiful presence in the hovercraft battles, made all the more glaring by their constant boasts of being able to 'get the job done' and being the real might in the war. They only have themselves to blame for such an embarassing failure.

**CPT_Starschwar**

Indeed, this was a waste of resources - as was evident from the get-go. The Zionites knew we were coming. The Meros and some mystery ship found out too. The failure of the Cypherites to keep this quiet adds yet another failure to their ever increasing list.

NightTrace

Actually, the only ones who should be embarrassed here are the armchair captains who were not even involved yet are now here filling the airwaves with the sound of their tears. Next time get involved in the battle my good man, then you'll have a leg to stand on if you want to start bawling.

**Procurator**

NightTrace wrote:

Do you really think that was Halborn?

It was. Certainly Halborn's ship was in the area. Maybe he was just out of range and the mystery ship was someone else's, but that seems rather unlikely.

Ask Gray, he'll tell you about Halborn witnessing the battle. Assuming he'll let you take the usual missions, that is.

**Procurator**

NightTrace wrote:

Actually, the only ones who should be embarrassed here are the armchair captains who were not even involved yet are now here filling the airwaves with the sound of their tears. Next time get involved in the battle my good man, then you'll have a leg to stand on if you want to start bawling.

Ha-hah!

I've made it very clear from the start why I didn't take part in this battle, and those reasons still stand. Doesn't mean I can't call out the Cypherites when I see them fail. I'm prone to rage against them at every opportunity that presents itself, or perhaps you haven't noticed?

NightTrace

Gray says alot.

All things considered I could say it was Boba Fett and it would have the same air of authority at the moment, seeing as I was in fact there, unlike some of the more "vocal" Machinists who have decided to come out of the cracks to fling insults.

**CPT_Starschwar**

Crying? Not at all - I'm pleased, actually. My initial prediction of the unreliability of both the Cypherite intel and the capability of thier captains was correct. And all the machinists came out alive regardless.

**Procurator**

Trace, maybe you'd like to ask Veil herself. Or even Halborn! Seriously, go and check the facts first.

**ShiXinFeng**

((Hey, how about a little credit?

I thought it was a brilliant strategy on the part of the Zion force to engage the CYPH ships from the north while EPN came in from behind the CYPHS to cut off any escape. Meanwhile, the Machine ships could only chase the EPN ships to the bottom of the board, unintentionally getting pulled in to where EPN could turn to fight, allowing the Zion ships to finish up the CYPH ships and then swing around to bore into the Machines from above.

Yes, believe it or not, that was planned.

The only thing that threw us off was the introduction of the Mervs into the fray late in the game, which caused us to have to scramble back to the top of the board. And it was pretty fun to watch Yas and Recessions go at it alone in the middle of the board for a round or two. SMILEY

And I have to (grudgingly) give much respect to Tranque for playing his role to, what turned out to be, a fruitful end. They were Mervs through and through last night, and he, Sieges, and Recessions earned every point.))

I am proud to have been a part of this operation and I could not be more proud of the Rocinante's crew, my fellow EPN captains, and the Zion force.

With Commander Lock returned home safely, EPN can now re-focus on taking the fight to the Machines and redouble our efforts for Freedom, both in the Real and in the Matrix.

NightTrace

Why would I do that when I can just as easily keep bouncing along giving you hell. Honestly Proc I thought you knew me a little bit, I'm doing this to *CENSORED* with you, nothing more.

As for the bit about the intel, the intel was spot on. Though the Mechs seemed to have drug along the mervs which was no good.

Anyway, I can say I'm open to any and all challanges in the realm of hovercraft battles for the future, so the "lack of activity" you were describing can be taken care of now hm?

Croesis · 04/24/2008 10:45:00

NightTrace wrote:

Do you really think that was Halborn? To fast, keep up with the times, we've had the two ships described to us.

Perhaps it is you who need to 'keep up'. Face it Gray knows what going on a lot more than you do.

The Mervs decided to go without Mechs doing anything so we didn't drag them along at all. Star and Proc are right, a lot of Machinists didn't put their ships on the line for several legitimate reasons not least the point that it meant working with Cyphs. As for coming out and flinging insults, that happened as soon as Tranta asked us.

NightTrace

...Do you guys really not get it. Halborn followed us, and missed Carlynes ship, which moved OUT of the area upon our arrival.

If you guys had been there maybe you would be able to follow simple logic to play connect the dots instead of having to wait for me to do it for you.

Croesis

NightTrace wrote:

...Do you guys really not get it. Halborn followed us, and missed Carlynes ship, which moved OUT of the area upon our arrival.

If you guys had been there maybe you would be able to follow simple logic to play connect the dots instead of having to wait for me to do it for you.

And Halborn just sat there? You saw the ship, I'm sure on the tiny off chance that it wasn't Halborn, he'd have been able to see it, he was following you after all. He did encounter both Zion and EPN ships, it strikes me as odd that he didn't see the other one.

NightTrace

Possibly because their from the same manufacture and they BOTH don't show on each others scans?

Fact is Halborn was following us, so he wouldn't be IN FRONT OF US.

You were not there.

The ship that was there moved fast as lightning compared to standard hovercraft.

What do we know about their individual ships?

Halborn is slow and heavily armed.

Carlyne is quick and agile.

HM, considering Halborn wouldn't have been in the middle of all of us since he was following us in...and this ship was moving quickly as could be...HMMM

Logic my dear, start using it or be quiet.

Croesis · 04/24/2008 11:28:09

Then why would he complain that you almost got him killed? You're saying he stayed behind you while you prepared for the battle and got into position? I somehow doubt he's the sort of person to stay at your heels especially when he'd have detected a ship in front of you, you think he'd have let you knock on Carlyne's hatch while he stayed behind? How would he have almost been been killed? Perhaps if surrounded by Zion and EPN ships. Does slow and heavily armed mean compared to Your own ships or Carlyne's? If it's compared to Carlyne's then doesn't that still mean a possibility that his is faster than yours?