Skull101 wrote:

I lol at people that complain about death effect, personally, it has never affected me in pvp at all.

Why just last night on Syntax I took one person out with DE, had about 200 HP left got interlocked, still had death effect and killed the noob that interlocked me. It really only lowers your chance to hit someone or dodge, not much else.

From my experince DE is a useless downgrade, perhaps you could just reduce someone's movement speed with it and thats all? idk changing the buff from 15% downgrades to everything is needed because most people just ignore death effect anyways. Also for people like me that die, come right back out of the hl, and continue to fight, it's pretty useless to someone that doesn't care.

So I am with Ballak, change it or remove it, and more cowbell pls kthxbai.

I laugh at people who complain about having a 15% lower chance to hit too.  Also people who complain about having a 15% lower chance to defend, especially when they're running aikido, the entire point of which is to defend.  But - wait, I don't laugh at that at all.  I guess I just laugh at people who claim that basic mathematics doesn't actually affect them. 

There are incentives to PvP, and there are disincentives.  Obviously, DE isn't a huge disincentive or people wouldn't be doing it.  But it IS a disincentive, and it does reduce the level of PvP by what is probably a significant margin.  Instead of fighting and keeping some level of excitement for the players, DE causes the occasional player to stop fighting.  Does it sometimes cause fights to "resolve?"  Maybe.  But the bigger effect it has is to decrease the amount of action and increase the boredom level.  That's not something you want in a game.

If you want fight resolution, go to the constructs.  If you had enough of a player base you could even make a really meaningful death penalty - but I mean on the level of EVE.  If you've got a serious penalty for dying, you need enough players scattered throughout the game to make it so that you can actually find them and fight them.  With MxO, that's sorta hopeless, so dropping DE is probably the best move.

The DE from The Matrix Online Manual LINK

Death

When your body in the Matrix takes enough damage, it ceases to function. This truth is so fundamental to the code that drives the Matrix that not even the best Operators can prevent it. They have, however, developed a workaround. When your body is killed in the Matrix, it can be copied and reloaded elsewhere.

When you die in the Matrix, your consciousness is forced back into your physical body in the Loading Area, and it cannot return to the body you left behind in the Matrix - not the same body, anyway. (In fact, when you die, your Operator will erase your corpse entirely, to avoid complications.)

Upon the death of your body, you will have two options. The first is to left click the Reconstruct button and return to the Loading Area. You can then quickly return to the Matrix via any Hardline you may have access to, reappearing in a new copy of your body. The second option is to be restored by another player, if they have the correct skills to do so. Upon reentering THE MATRIX after being newly reconstructed, you will suffer a temporary penalty to your performance for a short period of time.

The thrid option that is not mention in the manual, is not to click the reconstruct button, but that dosen't change anything. You would have to wait the same time before the DE is gone.

In every MMO there is a penalty when you die, if I am correct? The question here could be (and also already suggested in this thread by others) either change the DE because it don't have the same purpose anymore, as it was intend to be today according the manual. Remove the DE from the game.

I don't believe the DE only was created for PvP, but an idea could be to have 2 DE's. One if you die in a PvP and one if you are killed by NPC's. Just an idea....what the penalty would be I have no suggestion for that yet.

I agreed on that something should be done about the DE as the purpose today might not be the same as when the game was launched.

Garu wrote:

Stop dying.  Then there's nothing to worry about.  AMIRITE?

My preferred method :)