looks like the intruder finally talks to someone
if some choose the Matrix, would we deny them that?
So, EPN suggests nuclear weapons on the machines.. i'll begin counting the days untill they get slaughtered like before then, because that is definately not the way to go about achieving anything.
No, he asked us if we had nukes. We never suggested them, the intruder did.
**Edit: NVM Havocide beat me to it.**Tenshi wrote:
Great work EPN...on completely wasting your encounter with the Intruder...keep the "We love Neo, i wanna free humanity" crap at home and find out something useful will ya? You're lucky that jamming center was filled with simple Machine programs and not actual operatives...(( Looked fun! interesting to see how the Intruder responds to anything but the Machines... ))
Well we mainly were adressing the questions he had for us, which centered around our intentions. Some of us tried to keep the conversation more grounded than others. Given that other orgs attempts to have a real conversation with him haven't met with much success, we didn't want to demand to much from him, although we certainly tried to get information out of him. He just wasn't really willing to reveal anything.
Vinia wrote:
psilody wrote:if some choose the Matrix, would we deny them that?It's good to see at least one of you who hasn't got their head in the clouds. So do you want to forcibly free everyone and make them work to build a new Human civilisation that won't be anything like what they're used to in their lifetime. Would you present them with the choice? Even after the choice, if they turn it down, would you not have destroyed their lives anyway?((I looked an interesting event, the Intruder seems to have granted contact to gauge the capability and the aim of EPN at least, but yes... it's intentions are somewhat... guarded))
I would like to think that there is a majority of people in EPN who realize this. Forced extraction is not something that EPN persues, in fact I believe in the event I brought up the fact that there would be far too many people who would have trouble letting go ((I'm just not sure if its in the screenies)). That said, there are some of us that are...well...less level headed. This is unfortunate to say the least. I just don't like to be pigeonholed by their actions, thats all.
Looked like a really good event, very nice screenshots shinpseudo.
Great work EPN...on completely wasting your encounter with the Intruder...keep the "We love Neo, i wanna free humanity" crap at home and find out something useful will ya?
This Intruder is fascinated with everything outside of the Matrix and with leaving it. He keeps asking questions about why people choose to be in the Matrix and treats them condescendingly based on their response. With the Merovingian operatives, he looked down on them as they all chose to continue to live within the Matrix and how their organization depends on the Matrix to be up and running. However, he was at least more cordial with EPN when it was stated that they actually take people out of the simulation and prefer to live outside of it on a regular basis. The Intruder seems to me to be completely new to the Matrix, or at least this iteration of the Matrix. He hasn't heard of the Merovingian (at least by that name) who has been around since the second iteration. This may bear further investigation to see exactly what he wants, but its my belief that he is willing to do whatever it takes to succeed...no matter who it hurts. I think its clear to everyone that he is against the Machines and will end up fighting against them.
He's pumping us for information as well, seeing who has what resources that he can use in order to accomplish his own ends. Whoever teams up with him will have to know that he's probably as likely to backstab you as soon as it becomes better for his own goals.
Ah, EPN. Always repeating Zion's mistakes. Will you train this one's soldiers? Accept his miraculous "gifts"?
I have to say, the more I see about this Intruder, the more I get the feeling that he's amused by everything that's going on here.
When he does speak, it's almost as if he's quietly musing over how simply things are being done by all sides. Almost as if he expects something far grander.
Just look at this very simple example, the first thing about how EPN go about freeing minds and he suggests nukes and things... scary stuff.
Do not forget the past. It's things like this that got us all where we are now.