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Systemic Anomaly

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gayal wrote:


is should be like this, power= most dam less hits aikido= balanced with dam and hits, kung fu = alot of hits least dam. but now its like this kung fu= most dam most hits ( the damage of low lvl abs is rediculous), aikido= a k alrounder not the best but not the worst either, karate= very few hits and the dam is not to bad.


 


 







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Karate - STill does most damage on its highest level abilities, but hits less (and on its low level [ki punch] it requires Staggered so will still do more damage than Dim Mak Strike if used correctly) Requires more IS because it is an offensive, more physical, martial art. It requires exertion of the body and mind, it is clunky, awkward, but it hits as hard as hell.


Aikido - Resists and defends a higher than average amount of attacks, has average accuracy, and average damage


Kung Fu - Hits more often, but its damage is less (unless combined with Karate). Is also the most flexible (as it should be) with a special attack for each state.


So all is as it should be, combining the trees in a fashion that works is the key to being a good MA. Most people opt for KFGM because it hits more, but the other two GMs are equally as good in the right circumstances.  And I'm a dedicated MA and have practised with every combination there is and they work exactly as I have described.


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gayal wrote:


is should be like this, power= most dam less hits aikido= balanced with dam and hits, kung fu = alot of hits least dam. but now its like this kung fu= most dam most hits ( the damage of low lvl abs is rediculous), aikido= a k alrounder not the best but not the worst either, karate= very few hits and the dam is not to bad.


 


 






Gayal, when you look to the damage of karate, kung fu and aikido, dont look at the abilities in the tree. That is not the point at all. The damage you should be looking at is the melee damage points under the actual karate, kung fu and aikido fighting style. There you will see that karate DOES have the highest damage.


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Yes, karaté it's big Damage, never hit, always hited.....


and it's true that the damage difference is enormous... look my sign:robottongue:


 



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That's three times the amount Intensify Damage gives. So yes, it is enormous. 


I'm not sure how the damage system really works, but Karate does do a lot more damage than Kung Fu.


I wonder what the formula for Damage is....hmm lets ask a dev.






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Antcrist wrote:


Yes, karaté it's big Damage, never hit, always hited.....


and it's true that the damage difference is enormous... look my sign:robottongue:


 






it almost feels like they did the kung fu tree first then the other 2 but got tired and just put some things here, put some things there and got on with the rest.


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Ok how about this, screw martial arts and go guns, makes every1 10 times happier





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pack-hunter wrote:

Ok how about this, screw martial arts and go guns, makes every1 10 times happier





Most are already gunman, duelist with most of the time full auto redux loaded so no i wanne take a tree which needs skill not just spamming 3 attacks.


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Lol I don't have FAR loaded on my duelist load, my defense and accuracy is way too high to be normal most of the time, so I usually hit 4/5 times, and I'm constantly changing how I fight, some of us don't always spam the most obvious form of killing people, it brings a predictability on you and you rely on that strong but repetative form of killing, once it changes or gets solved then you find yourself trying to change your fighting style and because they havn't had much practice, they suck SMILEY


 




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Lol I don't have FAR loaded on my duelist load, my defense and accuracy is way too high to be normal most of the time, so I usually hit 4/5 times, and I'm constantly changing how I fight, some of us don't always spam the most obvious form of killing people, it brings a predictability on you and you rely on that strong but repetative form of killing, once it changes or gets solved then you find yourself trying to change your fighting style and because they havn't had much practice, they suck SMILEY


 







Bingo SMILEY


Same applies to MA.


An MA that doesn't evolve and change his tactics is useless, no matter what GM buff is used.  Proper application of skill in the use of certain trees, outweighs any perceived "Imbalance".  Adaptability of tactics will decide a fight more than having a certain buff loaded, or certain ability.


 




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Kung Fu = Accurate
Karate = Power
Aikido = Defense



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Tiango wrote:
Kung Fu = Accurate
Karate = Power
Aikido = Defense
That's like the fourth time this thread was necro'd.


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Hey man, It's all about knowing your weaknesses.  You gotta play around with them and figure out where you need to buff to get the most out of them.



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one thing you gotta learn is that they have advantages and Disadvantages,

 Kung fu is accurate in its buffs but it is equal in defense, damage and accuracy but it still makes it the most accurate and has high damagers for all the 3 tactics. next karate is average on accuracy, high in damage but low in defence and it mainly needs the power tactic so unless you got some abnormally high accuracy or somebody with really low defence then this is yer load to go. and Finally Aikido, this is average in accuracy, low on damage but high on defense this is a good style if you have problems blocking other attacks so if you go with this style build your load on getting as many passive damage buffs as you can. that way you can beef up yer damage best way for that is to Aikido + Kung Fu since Kung Fu has the most passive damage buffs




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Fractor wrote:
All the styles are easy to get used too. Kung Fu is the speed one, Karate is the power one and Aikido is the throwing one. Choose the one you like the most.
thats what i was gonna say


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ok i am very sorry to bring this back but this was the closest subject to what im trying to say sence i get kicked off the internet explorer with a bug everytime i try to make new topic or post replay but quick seems to workSMILEY

back on subject alright i just want to bi*** about a few things first karate is gibed in more ways then you can see from the stats for one i studied karate a bit kungfu and about every type of martial arts their is im a fanaticSMILEY ok first off when did karate start throwing hooks and their fighting style aint smart like karate is, and why is their defence so low besides the fact they have to make them all ballenced,i know for a fact that karate focuses alot of accracy defence speed and power it is the most ballence fighting style out their not saying its the best in all cattagorys but its WELL ballence so why is it weaker in every stat then power? and too tell you for a fact that they focus alot on all catagorys the same as come power so does defence they need their body strong so melee defence should be close to aikido and speed with intellenge to and accuracy to land their davasting punches they practily made karate look like a joke sept for some special attacks,some of the grabs and two of the power finisheres,one where he trips their leg and comes over their head, trips them and kicks them in mid air are like the only good thing about them,thats basicly the reason why i dont go to aikido for stats,

if anyone can anwer my quition please its been anoying me and im getting tired of seeing npc that are aikdo and kungfu doing more dmg and taking more then the karate guys do serously,i seen a akido guy do 500 dmg on me and a karate guy barly can get past 300 and get that lower 40 misus effect and i cant get it up at all ,i used more then 100 times so cant tell me theirs a percentage unless my bad luck just wants to annoy me and that enrage dosnt have 20% i had him use it like every attack it seems to 100%SMILEY


ok me quit bi****** cya and have a nice a daySMILEY
 
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