I was looking through a huge stash on a spare HD of old movies i captured in fraps of random MXO gameplay on the build up to CR2. When flicking through these i noticed some rather spiffing moves i was doing, i assumed these where spy moves they where quick and always into interlock. then i realised when i entered interlock i was using kung fu.

This made me think, what happened to all those old combat animations? they where amazing and i can see why people prefered CR1, i forgot just how *CENSORED* complex hand to hand combat (minus specials) really was. Back in CR1 they made normal combat as wide and as varied as the different specials there are. Unfortunatly this included wall runs etc and i can see and know why they where taken out but what about these old animations? can they be reused? or reimplimented to supply more of what the matrix some how lacking combat needs?

Actually look at the fighting, next time you go to duel someone try it without specials and tell me how interesting it looks. if we didnt have tactics it would be the same animations for hit hit, hit miss, miss hit and miss miss. multply that by the tactics and then by say 2 or 3 for the different types for each tactic and thats the total possible animations. pritty sh1t to be honest.

If i can find the old video i'll post it up and let you see what i mean.

P.S i know theres probably more animations i was only proving a point.

You can see the video here, keep and eye for the old animations.

The amount i was talking about are the current animations, and yes the point was they where not huge. Infact theres very little variation in the animations. my point at the begining.

What you seen in the video are two entering animations that they removed, and need i remind you that the video is not the entire basis of my point just some evidence to back it up.

1. That vid was too serious for a Party Hat
2. Isn't CR2 based on a 4 second per round type thing?  If they do fit into the timer, it would be cool to see them back, especially that move where you grabbed the gun, span around and elbowed him.

From what I recall, the two biggest sources of the CR1 animations were 1.)  Going from long range interlock to short range interlock or vice versa and 2.) Disarms (attacking a gun using opponent while using no gun yourself acted as a disarm attempt, IIRC).

Personally, I'm still not sure why we lost either of these systems as in most/all cases the animations could likely have just been tweaked to fit into the 4 second time frame.  We also lost the off the wall moves, which could have easily fit into the 4 second time frame as well from what I can tell.  I'm tempted to just say it was easier to implement what we do have and without a proper staffing level it would have been too much extra tweaking (even if that's all it was, just tweaking).

 Of course, with the loss of long range interlock, we also lost proper looking gun VS gun battles.  I've got a couple frapsed clips of gun VS gun IL from CR1 and it looks miles better than it does now.

If I had my way, I'd say we go with what was suggested in another thread:  bring back all of the old moves as advanced techniques.  Have combat look as it does now for lower level characters but have the new moves put in place as randomly appearing for those who are Masters or Grandmasters.

I'd like to see the wall runs implemented again, they were totally awesome and if they could be modified enough to last only 4 seconds I think it would be pretty good.

1. That vid was too serious for a Party Hat

lol i know looking back im like, *CENSORED* was i thinking XD well i was only messing with fraps you can see i still hadn't got a full copy yet so lol

As for the old animations... couldn't they be implimented like random specials? as you said for people who gain "master" status then the better ones for "Grandmasters". ie along with the GM buff it could display. SKill level 3 or whatever pft just making things up but you get the idea. Random specials that are used when, i donno you hit 5 times in succession? with a normal power/grab/speed attack? it would deffniatly spice things up and give more of a reason for people to use normal interlock and not only that it would improve it visually.

As I said in General Discussion.

'If you developers manage to re-implement even a handful of the animations that were removed from CR2, such as wall kicks and Disarms, I will festoon you with love.'

~V