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Systemic Anomaly

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Megarittz wrote:

After Smith was defeated, the Matrix was rebooted. Apparently, the buildings were changed a lot during that, but who knows.


This is perhaps the best solution to this issue. During the reset, this instance of the Matrix has been different from the one where Neo saved all the bluepills. Although the bottomline is not all of us are free. Some don't even want to be -- as the Cypherites claim a need for bliss. But back on to the topic, the city has been changed by the reset. Neo will return, but hopefully the game will stay true to the story and it will be a new Neo, with a completely different name. The way the movies portrayed themselves in the very end of Revolutions, the simulation was devasted by Smith. It even exists within the backstory of the game, and with the history of Agent Gray.

 While it would be nice to witness the continuity from the movies into the game, it's easy to explain why it's different.

As for the chase scene, remember that Neo also ran through Chinatown [International] to get to the Hotel and Jack Out. So there's another location thrown in there. It'd be easy to explain if perhaps while Thomas Anderson worked in Downtown for Metacortex, Morpheus' interrogation took place in the Slums -- at the Kalt building there (only thing missing is the lobby). It's relatively close to the areas where the Oracle tends to be -- which is where they'd left when Morpheus was captured. But eventually there's too many flaws in that theory of mine.

Reboot ftw?




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20136098 wrote:


Yeah it won't be for a long time but it they will be opened some time, and when they do they are going to have to raise the max level as you will be able close to 50 with the access nodes and Hardlines alone.


I've read somewhere else on the forums that they have no intention of using the dark areas of the map, they were there for expansion before SOE took over and then the design team went in the other direction. Also raising the level cap would unbalance the combat system. This is only what I've read elsewhere on the forums, i'd love for new areas to open up!



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Remember, in the game, the lobby is not in a government building, but in Calt chemicals. I remember reading somewhere (the manual?) that after the reboot at the end of revolutions some of the code was moved to other places. Maybe we could argue that, since there was a truce, the machines didn't need a building for the agents.

As for the distance between hear o'city hotel and the subway... well, we don't know, maybe they actually used the subway to get to westview. In those times it was not that easy to have hardlines, so maybe they manage to get one in Downtown, where probably agent were more active.

Btw, I think, from the documentals of the first movie, the diorama they used to represent the city was taken from Sydney, with some buildings changed of place. Anyone else remember this, or I'm just getting old?



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Yeah, it's pretty clear that there is a whole lot from the first movie that changed in the sequels. Some of my favorites are when Morpheus is spotted at Heathrow Airport, a real-world airport, the various street names mentioned by others on this thread, the introduction of Smith to Morpheus as "I'm a Smith." like they're a series.

It does raise some interesting questions though, the current backstory. For example, what do bluepills call their city? Do they call it "Megacity" and why doesn't that strike anyone as odd. There's an airport--seen in Enter the Matrix, and freeways--seen in Reloaded. Where do they go? Does the freeway just loop around the city? Do the airplanes just fly in a big circle? If the Matrix was made to recreate 1999 and it's been running for six iterations of roughly 100 years a pop, does that mean the simulation started in 1300 sometime? And that's not the pre-Oracle Matrixes that failed, mind you--just the six Ones that kept the current one running! Mostly this stuff isn't explained. Some of it is pretty wonky.

The introduction of the "feel-good" cake that the Merovingian serves that one gal in Reloaded might give some suggestions as to how it might work. Say the ball drop is the cue for a massive release of code--convincing everyone that this year is 1999 and last year was 1998. Same thing next year. Not sure how that keeps folks from ever getting on the airplane or keeps them from taking an offramp that goes nowhere--but it does explain a few things. The more I explore the Matrix, the more Pleasantville it seems. It is kindova' dream world. Things don't quite add up, don't quite make sense--like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad.



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Grimcleaver wrote:

the introduction of Smith to Morpheus as "I'm a Smith." like they're a series.


I also thought that until I went back and watched it again. What sounds like "A Smith" is actually Smith grunting because Morpheus HAS HIS HANDS AROUND SMITH'S NECK. It's just a "I'm moving my head/neck in an awkward way so I can talk" noise.

"And you are?"
"Smith. Agent...Smith."
"You all look the same to me."


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Stack wrote:
Let's get this straight: Mega City is not Chicago. It is based on Chicago, but it is not Chicago.

They've already stated that Mega City, the mountains, and the Chateau are the only places simulated in the Matrix. So, from what we can tell, it doesn't simulate the entire world, the Chateau doesn't need to be in Canada, and the Mega City isn't really Chicago. It shares many qualities with Chicago because the Wachowskis are from Chicago, but they stated that it's not supposed to be any real city, which is why it's just called "Mega City."
As far as I know they never stated that ever, if they had it would have cleared up a ton of issues. Source plz.


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NightTrace wrote:
Stack wrote:
Let's get this straight: Mega City is not Chicago. It is based on Chicago, but it is not Chicago.

They've already stated that Mega City, the mountains, and the Chateau are the only places simulated in the Matrix. So, from what we can tell, it doesn't simulate the entire world, the Chateau doesn't need to be in Canada, and the Mega City isn't really Chicago. It shares many qualities with Chicago because the Wachowskis are from Chicago, but they stated that it's not supposed to be any real city, which is why it's just called "Mega City."
As far as I know they never stated that ever, if they had it would have cleared up a ton of issues. Source plz.

Neo: Oh *poop*.
Link: Operator.
Neo: Link, where am I?
Link: You're not gonna believe this, but you're all the way up in the mountains.
Neo: Really.
Link: Yeah, it's gonna take me a while to get up an exit. Oh *poop*.
Neo: What?
Link: Those Twin things are after Morpheus and Trinity, and I don't have a way to get them out.
Neo: Where are they?
Link: Middle of the City, 500 miles due south.

That's all I know about the mountains. I would've expected the Matrix was bigger than that though and I've never read anything, aside from MXO, saying it's a small city, a few mountains and a chateau.




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Reeverb wrote:
NightTrace wrote:
Stack wrote:
Let's get this straight: Mega City is not Chicago. It is based on Chicago, but it is not Chicago.

They've already stated that Mega City, the mountains, and the Chateau are the only places simulated in the Matrix. So, from what we can tell, it doesn't simulate the entire world, the Chateau doesn't need to be in Canada, and the Mega City isn't really Chicago. It shares many qualities with Chicago because the Wachowskis are from Chicago, but they stated that it's not supposed to be any real city, which is why it's just called "Mega City."
As far as I know they never stated that ever, if they had it would have cleared up a ton of issues. Source plz.

Neo: Oh *CENSORED*.
Link: Operator.
Neo: Link, where am I?
Link: You're not gonna believe this, but you're all the way up in the mountains.
Neo: Really.
Link: Yeah, it's gonna take me a while to get up an exit. Oh *CENSORED*.
Neo: What?
Link: Those Twin things are after Morpheus and Trinity, and I don't have a way to get them out.
Neo: Where are they?
Link: Middle of the City, 500 miles due south.

That's all I know about the mountains. I would've expected the Matrix was bigger than that though and I've never read anything, aside from MXO, saying it's a small city, a few mountains and a chateau.

And considering it's a span of 500 miles to the middle of the city...you'd think there's a lot of stuff in between.

 
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