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TheShickle wrote:
Vinia wrote:

Roukie, if that would be the case, then I'd expect Agent NPC's to spawn on the Zionite NPC's... That would be fun...

As for the Gi's I've spoken to quite a few people who welcome the change, myself included. Thinking a little realistically, apart from the fact that Gi's probably wouldn't be worn other than in competitions and training constructs, a woman wouldn't really wear a short Gi with no pants unless she was trying to seduce or flirt with a male (or female... I guess). Personally I think that while testosterone levels might sink a bit with the change (they're still quite revealing at the top) perhaps a female MA in a tournament wearing a Gi might be regarded more for fighting skill than the boys waiting for her to do a sky high.

For those who may respond saying 'it's only polygons' I heartily agree, I don't see how many prefer the pantless if it's 'only polygons'. We still have short (very short) skirts with a large range of tops to mix and match for parties, combat etc...

 

Final Flight of the Osiris proves why they should stay.
You essentially proved her point.



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Pylat wrote:
At the bathhouse parties Catzi and I held female Gi's made really good "Bath Robes".

I don't know why the devs always do things in extremes. People have differing opinions so why not give us BOTH what we want. Instead of this all or nothing policy where the change pleases one group and annoys another. Half the time they can give both groups what they want but just... don't. It really can't be THAT hard to just add one Gi with pants and one without. Then EVERYONE is happy. Hopefully there will be a hotfix for this.

As for the spawns. Why not have low level Machine programs in Westview (The ones in Riot gear) Mid levels in International (The ones with beret's on) and Agents in DT. The exact level can be determined by the devs but scale back the ones in International and Westview for the benefit of newbies.

That makes more sense to me.


A "certain" group screams loud enough, and the devs cave...



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machete wrote:


A "certain" group screams loud enough, and the devs cave...
Uh what? That certain group was 'me' and I said it as a joke basically.



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TheShickle wrote:
Vinia wrote:

Roukie, if that would be the case, then I'd expect Agent NPC's to spawn on the Zionite NPC's... That would be fun...

As for the Gi's I've spoken to quite a few people who welcome the change, myself included. Thinking a little realistically, apart from the fact that Gi's probably wouldn't be worn other than in competitions and training constructs, a woman wouldn't really wear a short Gi with no pants unless she was trying to seduce or flirt with a male (or female... I guess). Personally I think that while testosterone levels might sink a bit with the change (they're still quite revealing at the top) perhaps a female MA in a tournament wearing a Gi might be regarded more for fighting skill than the boys waiting for her to do a sky high.

For those who may respond saying 'it's only polygons' I heartily agree, I don't see how many prefer the pantless if it's 'only polygons'. We still have short (very short) skirts with a large range of tops to mix and match for parties, combat etc...

 

Final Flight of the Osiris proves why they should stay.

I agree phully. a very good reason to not add pants to the Gi.  Why after all this time, decide to add pants to them?  Because someone complained they were too short after 4 years? I just don't get it. :/

 




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I think that's pretty much why =/



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Roukan wrote:
TheShickle wrote:
Vinia wrote:

Roukie, if that would be the case, then I'd expect Agent NPC's to spawn on the Zionite NPC's... That would be fun...

As for the Gi's I've spoken to quite a few people who welcome the change, myself included. Thinking a little realistically, apart from the fact that Gi's probably wouldn't be worn other than in competitions and training constructs, a woman wouldn't really wear a short Gi with no pants unless she was trying to seduce or flirt with a male (or female... I guess). Personally I think that while testosterone levels might sink a bit with the change (they're still quite revealing at the top) perhaps a female MA in a tournament wearing a Gi might be regarded more for fighting skill than the boys waiting for her to do a sky high.

For those who may respond saying 'it's only polygons' I heartily agree, I don't see how many prefer the pantless if it's 'only polygons'. We still have short (very short) skirts with a large range of tops to mix and match for parties, combat etc...

 

Final Flight of the Osiris proves why they should stay.
You essentially proved her point.

Her point is based on the assumption that all the Gi does is promote sex, which is not true. It is a perverse mind that automatically leaps to such assumptions, and those who do as the assumption says are even worse.

As for me proving her point, was the Gi the only reason he looked? No. He looked because it was being removed SMILEY. The Gi was not being used as a flirtation device either, so with your assumption of me proving her assumptions, it puts your mind up alongside the perverse.

Yeah, I bolded flirtation device. Heheheh.

 

EDIT: (Nothing wrong with being perverse though).


Message edited by TheShickle on 05/14/2008 23:11:20.


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TheShickle wrote:
Roukan wrote:
TheShickle wrote:
Vinia wrote:

Roukie, if that would be the case, then I'd expect Agent NPC's to spawn on the Zionite NPC's... That would be fun...

As for the Gi's I've spoken to quite a few people who welcome the change, myself included. Thinking a little realistically, apart from the fact that Gi's probably wouldn't be worn other than in competitions and training constructs, a woman wouldn't really wear a short Gi with no pants unless she was trying to seduce or flirt with a male (or female... I guess). Personally I think that while testosterone levels might sink a bit with the change (they're still quite revealing at the top) perhaps a female MA in a tournament wearing a Gi might be regarded more for fighting skill than the boys waiting for her to do a sky high.

For those who may respond saying 'it's only polygons' I heartily agree, I don't see how many prefer the pantless if it's 'only polygons'. We still have short (very short) skirts with a large range of tops to mix and match for parties, combat etc...

 

Final Flight of the Osiris proves why they should stay.
You essentially proved her point.

Her point is based on the assumption that all the Gi does is promote sex, which is not true. It is a perverse mind that automatically leaps to such assumptions, and those who do as the assumption says are even worse.

As for me proving her point, was the Gi the only reason he looked? No. He looked because it was being removed SMILEY. The Gi was not being used as a flirtation device either, so with your assumption of me proving her assumptions, it puts your mind up alongside the perverse.

Yeah, I bolded flirtation device. Heheheh.

 

EDIT: (Nothing wrong with being perverse though).

It's basically perverted people vs. not as perverted people. Which is stupid. I was the one who suggested pants anyway, and in the original post I said two versions of each gi. Everything else is up to Rarebit. Maybe he just didn't like the fact that it was BARE under the gi.



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Good updateSMILEY  I'm happy that we now going to get all the guns updated for level 50's also.




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Looks good. Nice going, Devs.

Pylat wrote:
It really can't be THAT hard to just add one Gi with pants and one without.
It can, unfortunately. I'll have to dig up the post where Rare explained it, but from what I recall the change to the gis affects all gis because the change was made to its base model. To have gis without trousers/bottoms (pants indeed SMILEY) there would have to be a new base model from which all those could be based. And there is very little space in the database for new base models.

Here it is: http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/...mp;#36300447865

I'm afraid...



...strikes again.

Message edited by Procurator on 05/15/2008 01:29:13.



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SolidRevolver wrote:

And where is the 'Level 100 Agents have been removed'?  >_>

Yeah...




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Procurator wrote:
Looks good. Nice going, Devs.

Pylat wrote:
It really can't be THAT hard to just add one Gi with pants and one without.
It can, unfortunately. I'll have to dig up the post where Rare explained it, but from what I recall the change to the gis affects all gis because the change was made to its base model. To have gis without trousers/bottoms (pants indeed SMILEY<img src=" />) there would have to be a new base model from which all those could be based. And there is very little space in the database for new base models.

Here it is: http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/...mp;#36300447865

I'm afraid...



...strikes again.
We need not only new database but new servers seeing these lag immensly on wednesdays.


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The Leo wrote:
We need not only new database but new servers seeing these lag immensly on wednesdays.
Midweek blues mate, they purk up again for the weekend SMILEY


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Vinia wrote:

As for the Gi's I've spoken to quite a few people who welcome the change, myself included. Thinking a little realistically, apart from the fact that Gi's probably wouldn't be worn other than in competitions and training constructs, a woman wouldn't really wear a short Gi with no pants unless she was trying to seduce or flirt with a male (or female... I guess). Personally I think that while testosterone levels might sink a bit with the change (they're still quite revealing at the top) perhaps a female MA in a tournament wearing a Gi might be regarded more for fighting skill than the boys waiting for her to do a sky high.


I dont perv on Sniper, I have never donned a Gi and gone to so Sky High kicks with someone.  I am more peeved at the fact that because most of my clothing styles all have pants (I dont like the miniskirts and I am MKT so all my combat clothing has pants too) the Gi (which looks uniquie) is the only thing I use on her without Pants.  Now because of a self confessed joke, I have to bin the Gi.  All the people who actually used to the Gi, Catzi's party, all not considered, mabey we dont matter because, again, thats how it looks.

I just fail to see the logic on changing this Gi because people actually used it, if they were left pantless, you cant miss what you never had, but they have gone and changed them and annoyed all the people that used them.  It would be like Xbox 360 (which is basically a set of games where you murder as many people as possible) getting a series of exclusives of Barbie games. 

This would would have been a perfect patch (for MxO) but they just had to ruin it, it was like removing the ability to load the Ballictis and Viral Hypers together and instead of allowing us to load any combo of 2 Hypers, they just allow us to load 1.  Or not removing those Agents 2 months after they started.




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TheShickle wrote:
Vinia wrote:

Roukie, if that would be the case, then I'd expect Agent NPC's to spawn on the Zionite NPC's... That would be fun...

As for the Gi's I've spoken to quite a few people who welcome the change, myself included. Thinking a little realistically, apart from the fact that Gi's probably wouldn't be worn other than in competitions and training constructs, a woman wouldn't really wear a short Gi with no pants unless she was trying to seduce or flirt with a male (or female... I guess). Personally I think that while testosterone levels might sink a bit with the change (they're still quite revealing at the top) perhaps a female MA in a tournament wearing a Gi might be regarded more for fighting skill than the boys waiting for her to do a sky high.

For those who may respond saying 'it's only polygons' I heartily agree, I don't see how many prefer the pantless if it's 'only polygons'. We still have short (very short) skirts with a large range of tops to mix and match for parties, combat etc...

 

Final Flight of the Osiris proves why they should stay.

ZOMG I want swords!!



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Mostly a great update.  Way to jump the shark on that gi issue, Rarebit.

Vinia wrote:
a woman wouldn't really wear a short Gi with no pants unless she was trying to seduce or flirt with a male (or female... I guess). Personally I think that while testosterone levels might sink a bit with the change (they're still quite revealing at the top) perhaps a female MA in a tournament wearing a Gi might be regarded more for fighting skill than the boys waiting for her to do a sky high.
As a woman who owns a gi this short, how about no.

Message edited by Chemuel on 05/15/2008 04:50:06.
 
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