@ Roukan: 

Ah, so I wasn't imageing that event. Oh well as I said in the first post MxO CONTRADICTION!!!!!!!. GG Rarebit

But I do notice a lack of explination as to which version she is refering to. V1 mixed Heaven and hell still has a breath in it!

GamiSB wrote:

@ Roukan: 

Ah, so I wasn't imageing that event. Oh well as I said in the first post MxO CONTRADICTION!!!!!!!. GG Rarebit

But I do notice a lack of explination as to which version she is refering to. V1 mixed Heaven and hell still has a breath in it!

If that picture wasn't enough to convince you, then you trully are ignorant. V1 being Heaven and Hell? How would demonic creatures make any world a paradise?

Ah I forgot this was the internet and its almost impossible to convey sarcasm. Facts still stand that other then what's been said in MxO the trilogy never hinted at a "Hell" Matrix but the fact that MxO says there was is enough for me to realzie I was wrong. Actully I think I sorta made that point in that first sentence. Those pics don't mention what version Ookami is refering to but I do realize that it is most likely the second version, although, "That version? A world built on human fantasies" -Ookami, makes me wonder.

As for how a heaven and hell would work, same idea behind most relgious ideas of the afterlife. Do good and dont *CENSORED* off the supream being you stay in paradise. Screw up and you burn. Balance and all that, something the Matrix needs to remain stable.

monkeymanx8 wrote:

GamiSB wrote:

@ Roukan: 

Ah, so I wasn't imageing that event. Oh well as I said in the first post MxO CONTRADICTION!!!!!!!. GG Rarebit

But I do notice a lack of explination as to which version she is refering to. V1 mixed Heaven and hell still has a breath in it!

If that picture wasn't enough to convince you, then you trully are ignorant. V1 being Heaven and Hell? How would demonic creatures make any world a paradise?

Ah I forgot this was the internet and its almost impossible to convey sarcasm. Facts still stand that other then what's been said in MxO the trilogy never hinted at a "Hell" Matrix but the fact that MxO says there was is enough for me to realzie I was wrong. Actully I think I sorta made that point in that first sentence. Those pics don't mention what version Ookami is refering to but I do realize that it is most likely the second version, although, "That version? A world built on human fantacasies" -Ookami, makes me wonder.

As for how a heaven and hell would work, same idea behind most relgious ideas of the afterlife. Do good and dont *CENSORED* off the supream being you stay in paradise. Screw up and you burn. Balance and all that, something the Matrix needs to remain stable.

When Reloaded came out I assumed a war torn world of pain and suffering, but that would be all human causing. When that event happened, I accepted it as canon of MxO.

I see everything in a much different light than most people. While MxO's direction leads to this, we don't know and won't ever know exactly what the Wachowskis had in mind for the 2nd version of the Matrix. I play this game based on what Rarebit has told us the story to lead to, and combine it with what was said in the movies to speculate.

I think that Ookami event threw everybody off track.  Prior to that (or excluding that event as canon), we had this:

1.  Constructs are storage units designed to hide Exiles between iterations of the Matrix.  This is how the Merovingian & Co. escaped the Smith ruckus.  (Although it never explained 01 and 10).

2.  Exiles are manifestations of self-aware programs, manifested visually by archetypal / mythological forms.  But before they became self-aware and started to do their own thing, they would have had these forms to begin with in case a bluepill accidently saw one of them doing whatever that program was supposed to be doing normally.  So a bluepill would tell his friends "OMG I saw a ghost!" and the other bluepills would say, "Yeah whatever dude" and dismiss it so it wouldn't cause all sorts of problems.

It just seems pretty inefficient to me to have a whole iteration of the Matrix based on one sorry mix of Van Heflin / Torchwood / X-Files / Charmed / World of Warcraft etc. 

MxO is the "official continuation of the story." I don't want to argue if it's canon or not, but ask yourself this: If the events of Reloaded and Revolutions were in MxO, and only The Matrix had been released, would you want to consider it all canon? I know a lot of people (few here though) that didn't like the final two installments, and their vision of the Matrix comes only from The Matrix.

What does this have to do with agents or even The Matrix V2?

monkeymanx8 wrote:

What does this have to do with agents or even The Matrix V2?

If you read all the posts in the thread instead of just arguing with them, you'd know.

People are arguing whether the "hell" matrix is just an MxO thing or a Matrix thing, and it doesn't matter. They are one in the same, whether someone likes it or not. There's some stuff that is in MxO just cuz it's a game, but stuff like this isn't just a concession for gameplay.

If that picture wasn't enough to convince you, then you trully are ignorant. V1 being Heaven and Hell? How would demonic creatures make any world a paradise?

monkeymanx8 wrote:

If that picture wasn't enough to convince you, then you trully are ignorant. V1 being Heaven and Hell? How would demonic creatures make any world a paradise?

I would consider the above post an argument, yes. /shrug

Ok, so we know that Seraph was a Seraphim, a form of Agents in the Paradise Matrix.  We also know that in the current version of the Matrix that Agents are human looking male and female dressed in white buttoned up shirt, with black tie (with a tie clip) and a black coat.  However, what about the "Hell" Matrix?  Who were the Agents there?  Personally I think the Twins used to be Agents of the "Hell" Matrix.  Mainly because in Reloaded, they spoke like Agents and their glasses are similar to the Agents of the current version of the Simulation. 

Agents In the Matrix V2.0(Hell Matrix) may have come in many forms, such as:

Ghost Agents(Twins)

Vampire Agents

Werewolf Agents and

Nazi Agents.