In the end, everyone must choose a side.  It is inevitable.

A man can die, but a man's dreams last forever.

Garu wrote:

In the end, everyone must choose a side.  It is inevitable.

I agree.

I disagree. This does not mean that Morpheus has sided with the Cypherites or the Machines. It means that the choice he made in this instance was in their favor. In fact if you notice Morpheus needed reassuring that Zion would be able to overcome this trial before he made his choice. A man can choose to eat an apple one day but still favor pears over apples can he not?

GamiSB wrote:

I disagree. This does not mean that Morpheus has sided with the Cypherites or the Machines. It means that the choice he made in this instance was in their favor. In fact if you notice Morpheus needed reassuring that Zion would be able to overcome this trial before he made his choice. A man can choose to eat an apple one day but still favor pears over apples can he not?

He may no longer have a choice.  If he helps the Machines with this request, he will foresake Zion in the process.  His supply of pears may run out.

There is always a choice even if one road is easier to take then the other. Morpheus is still not limited to only doing what the Machine says and can still find ways to help Zion. In fact I firmly believe that this event will help Zion more the hurt. Their military is now forced to reconfigure all there veteran operatives signals something that should have been done a long time ago for the very reasons we see now. Morpheus has taught Zion a hard but much needed lesson. Did he foresee this happening? Who's to say but he still cared enough for Zion to be sure that they could overcome this.

NiChO wrote:

A man can die, but a man's dreams last forever.

I have to agree with you there.  Ideas never die only those who believe in them do.

There is always a choice even if one road is easier to take then the other. Morpheus is still not limited to only doing what the Machine says and can still find ways to help Zion. In fact I firmly believe that this event will help Zion more than hurt. Their military is now forced to reconfigure all there veteran operatives signals something that should have been done a long time ago for the very reasons we see now. Morpheus has taught Zion a hard but much needed lesson. Did he foresee this happening? Who's to say but he still cared enough for Zion to be sure that they could overcome this.

Perhaps.  Only time will tell I suppose.  The choices we make are based on the choices already made by others.

Garu wrote:

NiChO wrote:

A man can die, but a man's dreams last forever.

I have to agree with you there.  Ideas never die only those who believe in them do.

But what if all those who know of the idea die, wouldn't the idea die with them?

Croesus wrote:

Garu wrote:

NiChO wrote:

A man can die, but a man's dreams last forever.

I have to agree with you there.  Ideas never die only those who believe in them do.

But what if all those who know of the idea die, wouldn't the idea die with them?

There will always be people who choose to serve an idea.  An idea may diminish but it never truly dies.  Look at Zion.

Garu wrote:

Croesus wrote:

Garu wrote:

NiChO wrote:

A man can die, but a man's dreams last forever.

I have to agree with you there.  Ideas never die only those who believe in them do.

But what if all those who know of the idea die, wouldn't the idea die with them?

There will always be people who choose to serve an idea.  An idea may diminish but it never truly dies.  Look at Zion.

Indeed but what if Zion and it's population were wiped from the face of the earth? Be it by the Machines or plague or natural disaster such as a cave-in? There would be no one to carry on such an idea. Other ideas may form and be similar, but everything dies... Nothing can stop the march of time.

ChloeAnn wrote:

Garu wrote:

In the end, everyone must choose a side.  It is inevitable.

I agree.

I disagree. This does not mean that Morpheus has sided with the Cypherites or the Machines. It means that the choice he made in this instance was in their favor. In fact if you notice Morpheus needed reasureing that Zion would be able to overcome this trial before he made his choice. A man can choose to eat an apple one day but still favor pears over appels can he not?

Indeed but what if Zion and it's population were wiped from the face of the earth? Be it by the Machines or plague or natural disaster such as a cave-in? There would be no one to carry on such an idea. Other ideas may form and be similar, but everything dies... Nothing can stop the march of time.

As long as there are free minds, there will always be ideas.  Zion has been annihilated several times, yet it rises from the ashes to oppose the system every time.