[9.3.5] "He wouldn't just kill her like that" - Vector - 4/2/08

The Leo

MetaLogic wrote:

GoDGiVeR wrote:
MetaLogic wrote:
If that's true then why is he still with us? There are three Cryptos.

1. The Cryptos that wanted to use Nukes inside the Simulation
2. The over-written machine controlled Cryptos
3. A perfect mesh of man and program Cryptos

((Actually there are 4.

4. The sin repenting Cryptos teaming up with Popper after the Seraph incident.

Oh wait, that'd be the original storyline, my bad.))

((I wish that did happen, that would leave Veil in control of the Cypherites with no one to hold her back, that would've been awesome!))

((Who would spank her then?? Besides she is gonna get herself killed.))

Panderai

GamiSB wrote:

Panderai wrote:
Never heard the term before, but I assume it means born outside of the Matrix, and if so, how can he be causing this trouble?
That's the mystery of it. But yes "freeborn" does mean born outside of the Matrix.

Could he be in control of someone that is inside the Matrix? Or perhaps this whole thing was a lie and he was a machine all along, and he wouldn't go back to the source?Or perhaps you are interpereting his words wrong. "I've been like this for centuries" Perhaps he avoided was a machine programme that slipped through the Architehts fingers, much like Smith did.

We don't have any proof that he is freeborn.

**Procurator**

We have as much proof of him being freeborn as we have of anything else. Agent Gray said he was freeborn, so we just have to take that as read for now. And it fits perfectly with (( Mystery Man (men?) in the cinematics and )) the mysterious independent human colony mentioned in Hypatia's files.

Panderai

Is there a plausible way that freeborns could survive for centuries, and jack into the matrix?

And The Machines may have said he is freeborn so we believe him, and they gain more control over the situation?

**ZippyTheSquirrel** · 04/07/2008 06:36:39

Procurator wrote:

We have as much proof of him being freeborn as we have of anything else. Agent Gray said he was freeborn, so we just have to take that as read for now. And it fits perfectly with (( Mystery Man (men?) in the cinematics and )) the mysterious independent human colony mentioned in Hypatia's files.

Can't trust anything a Machine says.

My own theory: There's no colony. Only a limited number (*cough* six or seven *cough*) of special people ejected from the Matrix.

Think about it: How else can a human live for much longer past their expiration date? There has to be something in them that's changed, to make them less human and more machine.

Panderai

Or he was reinserted back into the Matrix as an Agent for the Machines, or some sort of programme, that had the feelings of a human, yet the powers of a Machine programme, and he broke free of the control not so long ago, and now is looking for some sort of programme that will "free his mind"?

-Collbard- · 04/07/2008 14:26:16

Or maybe some humans from before the war were placed on uber life support. Hey, it could happen.

**Roukan**

Panderai wrote:

Or he was reinserted back into the Matrix as an Agent for the Machines, or some sort of programme, that had the feelings of a human, yet the powers of a Machine programme, and he broke free of the control not so long ago, and now is looking for some sort of programme that will "free his mind"?

That's my thinking. Human the machines experimented on, placed him in some mechanical disgusting form but he still.. lived on somehow.

**Rogue**

Has anyone considered that this small colony of folks might actually be the past "Ones". That may explain why they have such control over the simulation, and perhaps why they can be "centuries" old.