Yahweh wrote:

skyscream wrote:

In the darkness a man came to Zion and said ...

"I will find the One, and the One shall save us."

His words were true.

He spoke prophesy. He spoke of the coming of the One.

Some would label Neo the Prophet. But he is not. He is the saviour.

He spoke no prophesies .. for that was not his path.

Some would label the Oracle the Prophet. But she is not.

She is the answerer of questions and the keeper of secrets.

He is known by many names... the Prophet... the Seeker... and many others.

But he is Morpheus.

Look how you fight amongst yourselves over the meaning of words.

How can any of you claim to know the will of Neo?

I say "Find him ... and we will ask him ourselves."

But the Savior is hidden... and the Prophet who spoke of the coming of the One seeks once more.

Neo did not save just humanity. Neo saved everyone. Human. Machine. Program.

We are one ... and yet we are three.

I think ... therefore I am.

- The Neonite

Et nomine Vir, et Pello, et Code Sancti.

Change is coming for EPN.  Things are soon going to make a turn for the better.  The way they should have been before the Morpheus followers joined in.

I remember when EPN was formed.

I remember who it was that fought at the side of Morpheus and searched for Neo in the early days after the Truce. I have seen the Echo of Neo.

Michael Popper was not there.

The followers of Morpheus are more than the few who speak vocally in public like I do. They are more than one person, one fleet, one group. We are many.

We remember who brought us Neo. We remember who had faith when no other but the Heart of Neo did. Not even Neo himself.

It is not followers of Morpheus you should cast blame on for the state of your group Yahweh. Most of us have let you follow your path in silence. We aid you when we can. We fight shoulder to shoulder with you.

And then you reject us. Those who fought at the side of Morpheus.

Not all of the Kids followers think as you do Yahweh.

Neo was willing to risk everything and do the impossible to save his friend ... Morpheus ... and through that selfless act he learned to believe in himself. The hard way. Neo may have been reborn ... but he did not know this would happen. He gave his life for Morpheus.

We are willing to do the same. We will keep struggling and searching not only for Neo but Morpheus as well. That is the message I bring. The goal we ALL should be striving for. Whether you are EPN or Zionite.

Only Morpheus survived of those who found Neo.

Trinity, Apoc, Switch, Mouse, Cypher, Tank, Dozer. All dead.

Now some say Morpheus as well. Some say even Neo.

The truely wise are not afraid to say "I do not know. Teach me."

May Trinity, the Heart of Neo, watch over you.

Sapientia, Vires, Veneratio.

-The Neonite

First of all, what I mean to say is that it's the ones who follow in Morpheus' PATH and started advocating code bombs that have given us this bad reputation.  Even Michael, our leader, says we shouldn't use them.  I've seen what they do first hand.  For that matter, in my early days, I fought along side Morpheus as well when he planted them...I've changed since then. I've seen both sides of the arguement. 

If you believe in Morpheus, that's fine.  He's a figure held in high regard.  But let him merely be a guide. Do as Neo would do.  I believe that EPN in its current state is not what it was intended to be.

And as for Kid not being there...let's use a bit of logic...that was right after the Truce, he was probably not even allowed to jack in yet.  That first cinematic we saw him in was probably one of the first few times he got to jack in.  If he was around, he would have been there.  I don't know how long you've been playing the game, but back during the Assassin events there were messages of him talking to other Morpheus and Neo followers in the Real.  He was doing his part. Just because he wasn't on the frontlines doesn't mean a thing.  We all have a part to play, and he did what he could at the time.

Now, times have changed.

skyscream wrote:

Yahweh wrote:

skyscream wrote:

In the darkness a man came to Zion and said ...

"I will find the One, and the One shall save us."

His words were true.

He spoke prophesy. He spoke of the coming of the One.

Some would label Neo the Prophet. But he is not. He is the saviour.

He spoke no prophesies .. for that was not his path.

Some would label the Oracle the Prophet. But she is not.

She is the answerer of questions and the keeper of secrets.

He is known by many names... the Prophet... the Seeker... and many others.

But he is Morpheus.

Look how you fight amongst yourselves over the meaning of words.

How can any of you claim to know the will of Neo?

I say "Find him ... and we will ask him ourselves."

But the Savior is hidden... and the Prophet who spoke of the coming of the One seeks once more.

Neo did not save just humanity. Neo saved everyone. Human. Machine. Program.

We are one ... and yet we are three.

I think ... therefore I am.

- The Neonite

Et nomine Vir, et Pello, et Code Sancti.

Change is coming for EPN.  Things are soon going to make a turn for the better.  The way they should have been before the Morpheus followers joined in.

I remember when EPN was formed.

I remember who it was that fought at the side of Morpheus and searched for Neo in the early days after the Truce. I have seen the Echo of Neo.

Michael Popper was not there.

The followers of Morpheus are more than the few who speak vocally in public like I do. They are more than one person, one fleet, one group. We are many.

We remember who brought us Neo. We remember who had faith when no other but the Heart of Neo did. Not even Neo himself.

It is not followers of Morpheus you should cast blame on for the state of your group Yahweh. Most of us have let you follow your path in silence. We aid you when we can. We fight shoulder to shoulder with you.

And then you reject us. Those who fought at the side of Morpheus.

Not all of the Kids followers think as you do Yahweh.

Neo was willing to risk everything and do the impossible to save his friend ... Morpheus ... and through that selfless act he learned to believe in himself. The hard way. Neo may have been reborn ... but he did not know this would happen. He gave his life for Morpheus.

We are willing to do the same. We will keep struggling and searching not only for Neo but Morpheus as well. That is the message I bring. The goal we ALL should be striving for. Whether you are EPN or Zionite.

Only Morpheus survived of those who found Neo.

Trinity, Apoc, Switch, Mouse, Cypher, Tank, Dozer. All dead.

Now some say Morpheus as well. Some say even Neo.

The truely wise are not afraid to say "I do not know. Teach me."

May Trinity, the Heart of Neo, watch over you.

Sapientia, Vires, Veneratio.

-The Neonite

First of all, what I mean to say is that it's the ones who follow in Morpheus' PATH and started advocating code bombs that have given us this bad reputation.  Even Michael, our leader, says we shouldn't use them.  I've seen what they do first hand.  For that matter, in my early days, I fought along side Morpheus as well when he planted them...I've changed since then. I've seen both sides of the arguement. 

If you believe in Morpheus, that's fine.  He's a figure held in high regard.  But let him merely be a guide. Do as Neo would do.  I believe that EPN in its current state is not what it was intended to be.

And as for Kid not being there...let's use a bit of logic...that was right after the Truce, he was probably not even allowed to jack in yet.  That first cinematic we saw him in was probably one of the first few times he got to jack in.  If he was around, he would have been there.  I don't know how long you've been playing the game, but back during the Assassin events there were messages of him talking to other Morpheus and Neo followers in the Real.  He was doing his part. Just because he wasn't on the frontlines doesn't mean a thing.  We all have a part to play, and he did what he could at the time.

Now, times have changed.

Actully Michael was there. He was part of Morpheus' group. I believe Morpheus may have even took him almost as a pupil and taught him a few things when he could. There is evidence that Michael was some sort of leader in Mopheus' crusade but I believe that once he saw the damage the bombs Morpheus was planting and then Morpheus' "death" he knew that this would not have been Neo's will just as most of us have learned ether threw time or the hard way.

All groups have there own forms of radicals all dealing just as much damamge to bluepills as the next. The only difrence is press coverage.

GamiSB wrote:

All groups have there own forms of radicals all dealing just as much damamge to bluepills as the next. The only difrence is press coverage.

Defense 101, you can not use "so, everyone does it" as a proper defense.  At the very least it makes you look lost. 

SEETHER wrote:

GamiSB wrote:

All groups have there own forms of radicals all dealing just as much damamge to bluepills as the next. The only difrence is press coverage.

Defense 101, you can not use "so, everyone does it" as a proper defense.  At the very least it makes you look lost. 

I am not useing it as a defense merly an example that if you want to bash, insult, persuit, and destory one group just because members in there organization sliped up then there are others that deserve the same penalty that you never hear about anymore if ever. Really I fail to see why someone can not use that as it does not make them look lost and shows the hypocracy amongst some organizations that think they are perfect and not flawed when they are just as guilty as the rest.

Great, you are just like the rest.  I was under the impression that your organization had a purpose, belief, and tactic of its own. 

Your argument is simply "you do it so why can't we?".  Well simple my motivation for doing the things I do is different that yours.  I can blow up a billion blue and red pills (I just might) and not care what other think or how they will react because I am going to stay true to my goals.  There lies the difference. 

To try and lump yourselves in the same batch as say Covet, the Machines or even the Merovingian himself, is crazy because it does make you look lost, because other orgs and factions are more than willing to show their tactics and the Merovingian has made it very clear on how he does things.  Are code bombs the way you do things?  If so, I can respect that.  But stop crying and just say it. 

On the recursion instance, The Kid spoke out against Dezreki who leads (in my opinion) the biggest and most prominant EPN faction on the server.  So I ask you, were the actions of TaeCross & HWEZ inline with those of EPN or Zion for that matter?  If not what is being done to seperate yourselves from these actions?

And oh, perfection is subjective.  So is guilt. 

Go Anome!

GamiSB wrote:

SEETHER wrote:

GamiSB wrote:

All groups have there own forms of radicals all dealing just as much damamge to bluepills as the next. The only difrence is press coverage.

Defense 101, you can not use "so, everyone does it" as a proper defense.  At the very least it makes you look lost. 

I am not useing it as a defense merly an example that if you want to bash, insult, persuit, and destory one group just because members in there organization sliped up then there are others that deserve the same penalty that you never hear about anymore if ever. Really I fail to see why someone can not use that as it does not make them look lost and shows the hypocracy amongst some organizations that think they are perfect and not flawed when they are just as guilty as the rest.

Great, you are just like the rest.  I was under the impression that your organization had a purpose, belief, and tactic of its own. 

Your argument is simply "you do it so why can't we?".  Well simple my motivation for doing the things I do is different that yours.  I can blow up a billion blue and red pills (I just might) and not care what other think or how they will react because I am going to stay true to my goals.  There lies the difference. 

To try and lump yourselves in the same batch as say Covet, the Machines or even the Merovingian himself, is crazy because it does make you look lost, because other orgs and factions are more than willing to show their tactics and the Merovingian has made it very clear on how he does things.  Are code bombs the way you do things?  If so, I can respect that.  But stop crying and just say it. 

On the recursion instance, The Kid spoke out against Dezreki who leads (in my opinion) the biggest and most prominant EPN faction on the server.  So I ask you, were the actions of TaeCross & HWEZ inline with those of EPN or Zion for that matter?  If not what is being done to seperate yourselves from these actions?

And oh, perfection is subjective.  So is guilt. 

Go Anome!

You have comeplty missed the  point. What I said was in responce to people grouping all of EPN with those that sided with TaeCross. Something that EPN hates. Our motivation is no where near any other organizations as they all seek there own goals for there own reasons while EPN does everything for Neo. Although we do share a common enemy with Zion and teh common want of freeing all mankind we are difrent. We have our own way of doing things and if you opened your eyes you would see it. Code bombs are not the anwser and if you think that still then go do some homework. And you already awsnerd your own question by saying Michael spoke out agisnt Dez and taeCross so why even ask.

But after seeing your last stament I doubt logic, reason, or anything for that matter would make you understand.

"Ignorance is bliss" I guess.

SEETHER wrote:

GamiSB wrote:

SEETHER wrote:

GamiSB wrote:

All groups have there own forms of radicals all dealing just as much damamge to bluepills as the next. The only difrence is press coverage.

Defense 101, you can not use "so, everyone does it" as a proper defense.  At the very least it makes you look lost. 

I am not useing it as a defense merly an example that if you want to bash, insult, persuit, and destory one group just because members in there organization sliped up then there are others that deserve the same penalty that you never hear about anymore if ever. Really I fail to see why someone can not use that as it does not make them look lost and shows the hypocracy amongst some organizations that think they are perfect and not flawed when they are just as guilty as the rest.

Great, you are just like the rest.  I was under the impression that your organization had a purpose, belief, and tactic of its own. 

Your argument is simply "you do it so why can't we?".  Well simple my motivation for doing the things I do is different that yours.  I can blow up a billion blue and red pills (I just might) and not care what other think or how they will react because I am going to stay true to my goals.  There lies the difference. 

To try and lump yourselves in the same batch as say Covet, the Machines or even the Merovingian himself, is crazy because it does make you look lost, because other orgs and factions are more than willing to show their tactics and the Merovingian has made it very clear on how he does things.  Are code bombs the way you do things?  If so, I can respect that.  But stop crying and just say it. 

On the recursion instance, The Kid spoke out against Dezreki who leads (in my opinion) the biggest and most prominant EPN faction on the server.  So I ask you, were the actions of TaeCross & HWEZ inline with those of EPN or Zion for that matter?  If not what is being done to seperate yourselves from these actions?

And oh, perfection is subjective.  So is guilt. 

Go Anome!

You have comeplty missed the  point. What I said was in responce to people grouping all of EPN with those that sided with TaeCross. Something that EPN hates. Our motivation is no where near any other organizations as they all seek there own goals for there own reasons while EPN does everything for Neo. Although we do share a common enemy with Zion and teh common want of freeing all mankind we are difrent. We have our own way of doing things and if you opened your eyes you would see it. Code bombs are not the anwser and if you think that still then go do some homework. And you already awsnerd your own question by saying Michael spoke out agisnt Dez and taeCross so why even ask.

But after seeing your last stament I doubt logic, reason, or anything for that matter would make you understand.

"Ignorance is bliss" I guess.

Yes now you have your own way of doing things after the words were put into your mouth. 

So then it is official.  The only thing you are doing to separate yourselves from what the "others" did is to simply talk and seldom complain about it.   How is that working out for you?

As for your last couple of statements, it is is clear that now you are just trying to go *CENSORED* for tat.  The jury is in.  "Lost" is still the verdict.  You can chill with your harangue.

To close things up, I do not have to understand your "point".  It benefits me in no way to see things your way.  It is not that you are misunderstood.  Just the rhetoric is tired & "pointless".  Nothing is being done so the actions speak for themselves.

See you in the field.

Wrong. If you want to understand something and know the truth about it you MUST see things from every point of view. There are always at least two sides to every story but there is only one truth. To find that truth you need to hear every story and see things from every point of view. Call us what you will it doesnt matter sence you have so blantly admited that all you want to the easiest route to cover and dont care about whatever did happen just whatever your told has happend. Also if you would even so much as care to open your eyes on your own instance you would find that things are being done, progress is being made, and aleady there is an established and well repsected faction on your instance that most are agreeing is what EPN really is. I speak of corse of "Opus Neo" but it sounds like you were one of the ones on the 18th in camon that only sat and bitched about everything insted of listening and mourning.

Are we lost or are you I wonder.

Who is this yapping puppy who speaks as if they know all? Who is this Seether who endlessly spews meaningless words? Like a pet trying to get fed at the table. I have fought shoulder to shoulder with the ones you spout your words at. When you learn respect then you will learn more about them. Just as I learned many things about the Machine once I learned to respect them instead of hating them. They may be my enemy but I do not deny thier right to exist.

I think ... therefore I AM.

Code bombs are not the tool of E Pluribus Neo. They are the domain of Morpheus and some of his followers.

Now I will open your eyes to a truth.

Code Bombs were never intended to bring the Matrix down my young coyotes yipping at the moon.

If they were... then why so few?

Morpheus did not spread them among the faithful and tell them "Go... use this holy hand grenade to bring an end to this place"

Very few were placed... here and there ... strategically. As a warning.

All that had to happen was for the Machine to tell the truth.

The Truth about Neo. The Real Truth .. not the convienent lies most believe.

Now... there is another stake in this game. For I have my own demand as well.

Tell the truth about Trinity.

I have seen the subterfuge of the Machine.

Ask this question ...

Why was the Assassin in the Matrix? What caused him to do this?

Many here have many answers.

But how many ask questions?

The Assassin was a thinking being just like you and I.

I have read his words because he could not speak.

-The Neonite

Zion also condemmed the code bombings, so aside from childish impatience and lack of forethought what does distinguish EPN from common all garden Zion? What apsect denies the basic fact that EPN is simply Zion without conscience, a bunch of embittered and twisted individuals using your own invented religion as an excuse for your terrorist crimes against human and machine alike?

Beliefs

Zion believes now only in it's council and captains. EPN believes in Neo and his will.

Freedom

Zion seeks freedom and safely only for its city. EPN seeks freedom and safely for all humans

Enemies

Zion holds vendettas and seeks after revenge. EPN wishes to keep Neo's memory from slander and lies.

While Zion and E Pluribus Neo are so alike they are also very difrent. The only way I can think to descibe it without useing a boreing list up above is that the belife of EPN is like the beliefs Zion once held during the war. Waiting for a savior to guide them and trusting in himand his words. Now after the war Zion has no need for a savior and forgets what Neo wanted and his teachings.