GypsyJuggler wrote:

I'll be with MxO until the bitter end, so you can count on my support, but right now I'm waiting to see how SOE reacts. 

I couldn't say it better in so few words.

Fen wrote:

The only problem with a player run storyline, are the egos that the Matrix Online playerbase is famous for having.  Same reason why LESIG never really worked.  Everyone is going to have a different idea on what the storyline should be, and how to run it, and their idea is going to be the perfect one in their mind.

Player events are one thing, but actually trying to move the main storyline is another.  No matter how hard you try, there are going to be others who will try to undermine you and gain attention for themselves.

I'll try to be supportive, but in the end, I think most of the events and RP that I stick to will be the Trust's in-faction RP.  A lot less drama that way.

QFMFT

The story will continue regardless of whether there is an official outlet. This is our world (players) and we will continue to interact with it.

I feel that the first step to our future is to create an Mxo Story Bible. A one stop location that details everything that got us to this point and is debated until it is reasonable. We should decide what we chose to accept before we move along. I believe Cloudwolf and his summaries should be incorporated and clearly Othinn's logs (no pun intended) can be consulted.

ZaneZavin wrote:

The story will continue regardless of whether there is an official outlet. This is our world (players) and we will continue to interact with it.

I feel that the first step to our future is to create an Mxo Story Bible. A one stop location that details everything that got us to this point and is debated until it is reasonable. We should decide what we chose to accept before we move along. I believe Cloudwolf and his summaries should be incorporated and clearly Othinn's logs (no pun intended) can be consulted.

I was thinking the same thing. We need to have an official record from 1.1 to 12.1, with summaries as intricate as possible.

The main thing we need are summaries covering 1.1 - 5.1; those chapters what Rarebit's own posts didn't include.

Might have to dust off the ol' documents one of these days...

cloudwolf wrote:

The main thing we need are summaries covering 1.1 - 5.1; those chapters what Rarebit's own posts didn't include.

Might have to dust off the ol' documents one of these days...

Don't forget this; a start at least

I think player led storylines can work as long as they restrain themselves within the confines of the medium they can effect. Material changes and even smaller player understood changes cannot be communicated in the manner that 'one official' story can do (an official story can demand acceptance in the face of these but a personal story cannot), equally come what may, the Matrix as in the simulation has to remain persistent and relevent, mytery, danger, excitement and more all have to be elements that are brought to life here. 

Ultimately I think there is a need to avoid storylines 'about the matrix' and instead focus on storylines 'within the matrix'. The scale of aims and objectives has to reduce to the scale of the player, make them feel the value/worth of getting involved, the nature of the different organisations has to be realised in a more generic or even sterotypical manner so that players can easily get on board, everyday life for the player has to become something consistent and sympthetic with what the over arcing story would expect; in other words welcome players into a story by making the story a part of their world and there's then an automatic opt in. Like gravity, gather enough material/players/factions and you could hit the critical mass that leads everything else.

The key then becomes the mechanism by which you translate the story and communicate it to a wider audience.

Villemar_MxO wrote:

cloudwolf wrote:

The main thing we need are summaries covering 1.1 - 5.1; those chapters what Rarebit's own posts didn't include.

Might have to dust off the ol' documents one of these days...

Don't forget this; a start at least

 

 

I think this is as accuracte as anything. We have his Story Notes for everything else.

I think its do-able butttttt we need to change things around a little bit?



First of all any storyline that the players decide on should stay clear of past and what was meant to be storylines. Like starting a fresh, all the new MxO Characters should  disappear, a few controller type characters from the movie that will send messages to us should stay. People like Niobe and Morpheus would be mentioned that there doing stuff just as we are in the first few weeks and then slowly forgotten about.

We should have an elected player committee to steer us in the right direction, say they get 6 weeks of controlling the story's direction. Any player interested in RP could run. This would allow a flexible storyline and ever changing look at it, and also gets rid of the problem of a players solution being perfect.


As long they are few people willing to do it alone, willing to keep the storyline alive for people as they wish to come and join. Then it is doable for sure.

How's about a random storyline rendering system, pick by community vote, 5 players from each org that are by far the best rpers around, have them write the stories, then number them randomly, put a list of the said numbers on the forums, have a vote over say a week as to which of the 15 different stories gets to be acted out this month, and the top ones from each org would be acted out for said orgs, and also there should be a overall storyline for the matrix, which could be done the sameway, random vote, random outcome to the story, = cannon storyline run by players for players.

Just my two pennies.

I am going to be honost, I stopped caring about the storyline once the pew pew lazer eyes came out. We know SOE isnt going to hire anyone else to take over, so whatever chapter 14 was going to be thats it, in my opinion. To keep it going is a noble effort to be sure, but I doubt the majority of the players who are currently subbed are going to regard it as cannon.

Ic3b3rg wrote:

I am going to be honost, I stopped caring about the storyline once the pew pew lazer eyes came out. We know SOE isnt going to hire anyone else to take over, so whatever chapter 14 was going to be thats it, in my opinion. To keep it going is a noble effort to be sure, but I doubt the majority of the players who are currently subbed are going to regard it as cannon.

Maybe you are right. The only storyline I'll be seeing as cannon will be a storyline run by an official storyteller. It's not to offend the players that'll try to do their own thing, not at all - it's just the way I see it. And as I am a big fan of the Matrix story, I still hope we will get a replacement for Rare.

It's canon if it's accepted by the Wachowskis.

But, oh no! We have absolutely no means of contacting them. Oh, woe, is us, to be in this day and age of technology where we cannae instantaneously locate and dispatch a message to someone in a faraway land, O! *swoon*

ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:

It's canon if it's accepted by the Wachowskis.

Well, contrarily to the question of a new storyteller, that is one thing we can really say we are 100% sure not to get.

deimoslvov wrote:

ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:

It's canon if it's accepted by the Wachowskis.

Well, contrarily to the question of a new storyteller, that is one thing we can really say we are 100% sure not to get.

To heck with naysayers, I think Zippy just volunteered himself for the position of 'Speaker to the Wachowskis'.  Hop to it!