an idea About Solo Content!

vynn_drasan

Cadsuane wrote:

vynn_drasan wrote:
i have tried to solo a sleepwalker box using the loadout you speak of and i hit a brick wall at the first boss care to share tips?
Don't get shot.

lol, i'm not getting shot i just can't get any noticable amount of dmg through, even with debuffs.

**GoDGiVeR** · 09/18/2008 04:41:57

vynn_drasan wrote:

Cadsuane wrote:
vynn_drasan wrote:
i have tried to solo a sleepwalker box using the loadout you speak of and i hit a brick wall at the first boss care to share tips?
Don't get shot.

lol, i'm not getting shot i just can't get any noticable amount of dmg through, even with debuffs.

I can get over 300 damage on the lvl 60s with the right debuffs ... alone.

Edit: You can do 400+ on them, but not alone, you don't have enough memory to load all the necessary debuffs and the best damaging abs.
Edit 2: You could do 600+ on them with a Logic Cannon 2.0, though, but still, not enough memory for that and the debuff abs.

vynn_drasan

care to share what the right debuff are?

**Dr5mith**

Mona wrote:

I think some solo content should be added. Most of the time i'm on early morning GMT and not many folks are on. It would give me something do when i log on first thing.

Now now....you know our Solo content on Vector is *shiftyeyes lowbie hunting! Its a great way to start the day!

**Mashoe**

Solo content, or group content that only requires a SINGLE group of 5 would be great. It can be a pain trying to find 40 people to come help, and asking them all not to loot anything...

**Gerik**

vynn_drasan wrote:

care to share what the right debuff are?

Destroyer, Insidious Code and Vector/Distruption Field?

**Vosiler** · 09/18/2008 05:59:03

Criingey wrote:

Vosiler,
I think its harsh to say just because someone CAN use a load out that you cant, to do something that they are sploiting.
Learn to use the trees to their max and THEN you can justify saying something like that.

Anyway.. soloable content is all and well but like others have pointed out it would have to be for the appropriate reward. No point in farming solo for an object that your never gonna have to get again.. well at least not for a long time atleast.

NO wrong maybe you should read comments first cratyzee said "the sleepwalker box can be solo'd with howitzer/destroyer tree" this is not possiable without useing the exploit that was semi fixed with the lvl 60 with insane viral res you cannot complete a sleepwalker box without some sort of healer or full group UNLESS you use the EXPLOIT where you pull them out of range so they STOP attacking you.

Please dont post because you can, post becuase you have an opinion on solo content, Keep it on Topic.

Criingey

Vosiler wrote:

NO wrong maybe you should read comments first cratyzee said "the sleepwalker box can be solo'd with howitzer/destroyer tree" this is not possiable without useing the exploit that was semi fixed with the lvl 60 with insane viral res you cannot complete a sleepwalker box without some sort of healer or full group UNLESS you use the EXPLOIT where you pull them out of range so they STOP attacking you.

Please dont post because you can post becuase you have an opinion on solo content

Is that a fact huh?

Last i heard people were pulling it off without the sploit.

Also.. what?? "dont post because you can post because you have an opinion on solo content"? READ MY FULL POST MATE... I clearly stated my view on solo content.

**GoDGiVeR** · 09/18/2008 06:19:59

Gerik wrote:

vynn_drasan wrote:
care to share what the right debuff are?
Destroyer, Insidious Code and Vector/Distruption Field?

First two are correct, the last two not so.

Destroyer is what I call "the critical", without destroyer you won't get to do much damage, even with the other debuffs. Why? Destroyer has the highest viral res debuff (with boni to 220+), which leads to a nullifying of a certain resistance. After that any additional debuffs will lead to a dramatic increase of damage done to an opponent. If you don't manage to get beyond the "critical", which you can't on the 60s with Insidious Code alone, the damage you deal more is rather insignificant. ("critical" = 0 resistance and then below, below limit is not yet known, possible negative limit is -300, limit is not -240, only because positive one is 240) If you miss Destroyer on the level 60s, forget about casting Insidous, a waste of time.

Vector and Disruption Field only do Viral Def debuffs, which are only neat if you want to hit more than normal. First debuffs in a row.

But even if you cast all those 4 (the last two to hit your abs and the first two to decrease resistance) with Damage upgrades on your part you will not exceed 180 damage. The trick lies in a third res debuff. That is the one you must find out now. But if you combine the 3rd with Insidious alone, you won't even do 150 with dmg upgrades. Nothing matters if you don't manage to get "critical", Destroyer is essential and also has the longest effect of those 3 debuffs. A 3rd res debuff will push the resistance far below the into the negatives. Tests showed that you can push it down to around -250 viral resistance.

THAT is when you do damage, yo, even if it's only for 2-3 shots or nukes and bombs. If you have a party of 6 hackers, a 60 is down, fast.

**Gerik** · 09/18/2008 06:25:56

GoDGiVeR wrote:

Gerik wrote:
vynn_drasan wrote:
care to share what the right debuff are?
Destroyer, Insidious Code and Vector/Distruption Field?

First two are correct, the last two not so.

Gonna have to say Freeze Area 2.0 or Freeze System 3.0, though I'd prefer FA 2.0 (last longer and bigger radius from the selected target).

Edit: Also, no, I don't think we should have soloable content. If you can't farm it, then spend some time in Datamine, if you really want it enough to buy it.

**GoDGiVeR** · 09/18/2008 06:35:04

Gerik wrote:

GoDGiVeR wrote:
Gerik wrote:
vynn_drasan wrote:
care to share what the right debuff are?
Destroyer, Insidious Code and Vector/Distruption Field?

First two are correct, the last two not so.
Gonna have to say Freeze Area 2.0 or Freeze System 3.0, though I'd prefer FA 2.0 (last longer and bigger radius from the selected target).

Edit: Also, no, I don't think we should have soloable content. If you can't farm it, then spend some time in Datamine, if you really want it enough to buy it.

Disruption Field + Destroyer (30sec) + Insidious (24 sec) + FA 2.0 (12 sec) / FS 3.0 (12 sec) (They are mutually exclusive, otherwise we'd just cast both for a 4th debuff, zomg) + Your damaging abs here. Time window for huge damage is small (12 seconds, that is 1 LC + 1 small viral shot or 5 small viral shorts or 3 nukes / bombs), for good damage it's enough time (you have another 10 seconds (optimally, you usually don't cast on exact seconds) or another 2 nukes / bombs). In that timeframe you can deal a good solid 1k damage with best damaging abs.

Edit: Don't forget damage upgrades on your part (OC, UM, IH), it does make a difference when dealing with debuffs.

On a sidenote: Yuki Tengu: UA + OC + FS 2.0 + LC 2.0 = 440 damage. Time till Tengu down: 85 seconds. Takes 45 secs if you're level 26 >_>

**Vosiler** · 09/18/2008 06:51:22

Criingey wrote:

Vosiler wrote:
NO wrong maybe you should read comments first cratyzee said "the sleepwalker box can be solo'd with howitzer/destroyer tree" this is not possiable without useing the exploit that was semi fixed with the lvl 60 with insane viral res you cannot complete a sleepwalker box without some sort of healer or full group UNLESS you use the EXPLOIT where you pull them out of range so they STOP attacking you.

Please dont post because you can post becuase you have an opinion on solo content

Is that a fact huh?
Last i heard people were pulling it off without the sploit.
Also.. what?? "dont post because you can post because you have an opinion on solo content"? READ MY FULL POST MATE... I clearly stated my view on solo content.

Please dont post because you can post becuase you have an opinion on solo content

Was for posts in genral not personlly for you.

Then your mistaken or the people you heard it from are, i know for a fact its not possiable since they add'ed the lvl 60 with high viral res unless ofcourse your talking about before ?, you shouldent trust hearsay, or shall i come on syntax go in the saties playground and watch some one solo it with hacker without the sploit ?

Criingey

Vosiler wrote:

or shall i come on syntax go in the saties playground and watch some one solo it with hacker without the sploit ?

Fill your boots.

The people i have spoken to i trust and believe do not need exploits.. but hey.. maybe im a bad judge of character. I just dont think you have the right to call the odds about someone you might not know or how they play. Forgetting the fact of who may or may not be exploiting i dont feel you have the right to call them out, hence why i said harsh. Truth of the matter is neither of us know who could be exploiting or not in this area at the time when they say they can do this. That, is my point here. Get me?

**GoDGiVeR**

Vosiler wrote:

i know for a fact its not possiable since they add'ed the lvl 60 with high viral res

Cap is 240 and I doubt the devs have given the 60s more than 240 viral res (any more than the cap is a buffer in case of debuffs), in which case ... I rest my case (read my posts), because I know I can deal "insane" amount of damage on them, even if it's only for a very short amount of time.

**Vosiler**

Criingey wrote:

Vosiler wrote:
or shall i come on syntax go in the saties playground and watch some one solo it with hacker without the sploit ?

Fill your boots.
The people i have spoken to i trust and believe do not need exploits.. but hey.. maybe im a bad judge of character. I just dont think you have the right to call the odds about someone you might not know or how they play. Forgetting the fact of who may or may not be exploiting i dont feel you have the right to call them out, hence why i said harsh. Truth of the matter is neither of us know who could be exploiting or not in this area at the time when they say they can do this. That, is my point here. Get me?

Crazyzee spent 2 or somet years in the same faction as me, i know him and hes tatics all of which he was never a hack to my memory so infact i was commenting on my judgement of people that i know fairly well