KevinX wrote:

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The Machines have placed Neo's partially assembled RSI in the Matrix for the edification of their redpill operatives. A remote location was chosen so as to cause minimal disturbance in the lives of those plugged in to the simulation. ""

As far as I remember two years ago.
That is nothing more than a hologram..

"The image changes as the position and orientation of the viewing system changes in exactly the same way as if the object was still present, thus making the recorded image (hologram) appear three dimensional."

Your quote in no way mentions that is is some type of 'recording' it litteraly says Neo's partialy assembled RSI.

Hydrazine wrote:

The meetings went pretty much the way I thought they would.  It felt scripted (rarebit) and unorganized/clueless (us) all at the same time.  It felt like a lot of people were afk and others had their own agendas to try and push.  We go into the meetings not knowing what particular avenue is going to be discussed because there are so many unanswered questions and stories that have loose ends.  But then there are the obvious discussions that are the dull broken record that seem to get rehashed over and over but without any real answers discovered and the ones we truly have questions about don't even get mentioned. 

I feel like we came out of this meeting without any more clarity on what is going on than when we went in.  I know that its suppose to be an open discussion and that Niobe doesn't know any more than we do and we are to be informing her of activities and then discussing it.  But thats not really how it felt.  We know that Niobe knows more than we do and we can't pretend that she doesnt.  Niobe is not one of us and I dont think we will ever be able to treat her as one of us and see that she only knows as much as we do.  The best part about live events was that an objective gets completed.  I don't want to stand around and chat unless there is some real progress made on the problems we face.  Don't risk all our captains being in one location if there isn't a really good reason for it.

We started the meeting with questions and ended the meeting without answers. Oh, except that EPN withholds information from Zion... huh?? That guy shouldve been booted for disrupting the meeting, starting false rumors about EPN, and disrespecting half the group that was there because they are EPN.

All in all, I am pretty depressed about the matrix online.  It's hard to see myself here a year from now.

I agree im in the same boat as you i wasnt expecting much but with this meeting but yeah was kinda disapionting when we really dont get anything new or some questions answerd on the ones we have  and to the fact that i think Niobe was realitvly quite the whole meeting was more diapointing i dont know how active the other Story line charchters were for the other events. but seeing as how these are gonna be the only interaction with Live even charchters im starting to think on how im gonna be here in + years cause the Story/live events were a big factor on why i joined this game.

We all know this is the first phase of the new changes, but it still is a big change not to have an officel meeting on the server you have you'r main char., faction etc. Also there is the missing LO's who did a good job to keep most of their organization informed. I will again wait and hope for more changes, that would make us believe, that the new approach is the right thing for us before i will say  or

I think the bottom line is we've gone from one unsustainable extreme (daily live events on top of new crits, new contructs, new content, new bug fixes, new quests, new moods, etc.)  to another unsustainable extreme (a Quarterly Board Meeting/glorified chat room four times a year for your faction on your server).

Its like going from an 800 mph Rocket Car to a rusty unicylce. 

Villemar_MxO wrote:

I think the bottom line is we've gone from one unsustainable extreme (daily live events on top of new crits, new contructs, new content, new bug fixes, new quests, new moods, etc.)  to another unsustainable extreme (a Quarterly Board Meeting/glorified chat room four times a year for your faction on your server).

Its like going from an 800 mph Rocket Car to a rusty unicylce. 

Was it really unsustainable, though? We've had it for years, thus making the change at least seem unwarranted.

The extreme degree to which the course changed only verifies and exaggerates it.

At this rate, I would be surprised if I remained with MxO following the winter event and the conclusion of my own in-game shenanigans. I was okay paying 15 bucks a month for two events every month and liaison interraction.

Now that that's out and I'm a lot shorter on time I'm left with a greatly lacking storyline and nothing to do after patch day.

:/

Sounds like thike these meetings are not going very well.

Sorry this one sounded like the least best one.  I kind of suspected that - you know, you Zions are very correct when you say Rarebit hates and/or is biased against Zion.  I was at Fan Faire 08 and he said so himself.  In an open forum discussion at one point I was asking something about org. rewards (concerning the FM1500 controversy) and said - "You don't want to make them because it seems like you are biased to Zion and Merv.  You favor the Machines"  And he laughingly declared: "Of course I'm biased! Hahahaha!!"

And lately he does favor Machine and Merv.  And has given Zion the total short end of the stick (so to speak).  Which - even though I play a Machinist most of the time - I think is absolutley wrong.  When being the Dev. the writer should try to give equal consideration to both sides - in this case the 5 sides.  But still there is 2 basicly sides - "good and evil (light and dark)".  I think Rarebit doesn't write or like Zion because he doesn't understand it.  But that does not give him the excuse to treat it the way he does!

It is easier to write up bad characters, villains, and such because we all like to be silly and somewhat "bad-azz".  It's more difficult to play the heroes and play the morality and the just cause.  The thing about The Matrix Mythos is that nothing is set in stone, sometimes the line blur. But Zion is NOT weak!, or the lesser 1/2!  And should not be treated as such. Niobe and Ghost are powerfull characters.  Rarebit said: "Shimada is my least fav. character..." he said so himself in a previous thread about design (or something) - and what did he do? He had Veil (his fav. character) killed her - no surprise to me there.  The only thing he seemed to like about Shimada was her bvtt.  He doesn't understand Niobe - or how to play her correctly.  She is an aggresive character - who steadily believes in Zion's cause, but is not quite as zealous at The Kid.  And The Kid (now with Shinada's death) would be quite the Zealot.  Which SHOULD put an interesting spin on things.  But I have my doubts and have absoutly no faith in his ability to write the story correctly or fairly for Zion.  Yeh I'm a Machinist - but this is too far!!  Constantly giving Zion players the shaft is just stupid and wrong - especialy on Rarebit's part.

The favoritism - not only of players, but of the orgs - has to stop!

Beat me up if you guys will.  I believe what I believe.

Darkhawk wrote:

Sorry this one sounded like the least best one.  I kind of suspected that - you know, you Zions are very correct when you say Rarebit hates and/or is biased against Zion.  I was at Fan Faire 08 and he said so himself.  In an open forum discussion at one point I was asking something about org. rewards (concerning the FM1500 controversy) and said - "You don't want to make them because it seems like you are biased to Zion and Merv.  You favor the Machines"  And he laughingly declared: "Of course I'm biased! Hahahaha!!"

 

Here is an early christmas present =D

The idea that a dev would be serious in stating that he was 'biased against an org' is laughable in itself.

Also, Machines recieved a 'special' grey banadana (clone of sleepwalker 'dana with different buffs?) while the Zion and Merv org reward were completely new items. I'm not claiming favourtism against the machines or anything, I'm just saying that to imply that the machines get everything rosey and new is naive and wrong.

Darkhawk wrote:

:/

Sounds like thike these meetings are not going very well.

Sorry this one sounded like the least best one.  I kind of suspected that - you know, you Zions are very correct when you say Rarebit hates and/or is biased against Zion.  I was at Fan Faire 08 and he said so himself.  In an open forum discussion at one point I was asking something about org. rewards (concerning the FM1500 controversy) and said - "You don't want to make them because it seems like you are biased to Zion and Merv.  You favor the Machines"  And he laughingly declared: "Of course I'm biased! Hahahaha!!"

And lately he does favor Machine and Merv.  And has given Zion the total short end of the stick (so to speak).  Which - even though I play a Machinist most of the time - I think is absolutley wrong.  When being the Dev. the writer should try to give equal consideration to both sides - in this case the 5 sides.  But still there is 2 basicly sides - "good and evil (light and dark)".  I think Rarebit doesn't write or like Zion because he doesn't understand it.  But that does not give him the excuse to treat it the way he does!

It is easier to write up bad characters, villains, and such because we all like to be silly and somewhat "bad-azz".  It's more difficult to play the heroes and play the morality and the just cause.  The thing about The Matrix Mythos is that nothing is set in stone, sometimes the line blur. But Zion is NOT weak!, or the lesser 1/2!  And should not be treated as such. Niobe and Ghost are powerfull characters.  Rarebit said: "Shimada is my least fav. character..." he said so himself in a previous thread about design (or something) - and what did he do? He had Veil (his fav. character) killed her - no surprise to me there.  The only thing he seemed to like about Shimada was her bvtt.  He doesn't understand Niobe - or how to play her correctly.  She is an aggresive character - who steadily believes in Zion's cause, but is not quite as zealous at The Kid.  And The Kid (now with Shinada's death) would be quite the Zealot.  Which SHOULD put an interesting spin on things.  But I have my doubts and have absoutly no faith in his ability to write the story correctly or fairly for Zion.  Yeh I'm a Machinist - but this is too far!!  Constantly giving Zion players the shaft is just stupid and wrong - especialy on Rarebit's part.

The favoritism - not only of players, but of the orgs - has to stop!

Beat me up if you guys will.  I believe what I believe.

*sigh* here we go again with your mindless bashing of rarebit.

He said it with a sarcastic tone to his voice which you failed to detect.

I believe he said it sarcastically also.

And could the reason for the Zion meeting being so lackluster the result of it being the last one of the three?  Most of the questions Zionites had were probably answered already in the Mech and Merv meetings.  Any I right on either of those?

The absolute last thing we need right now is dev bashing.  You're gonna get this thread locked.  Not only that but you're completely undermining our calm rational arguments.  Totally counterproductive.  Please stop.

I didn't hear him say it but I can't believe that he'd say it and mean it in public, plus I heard a while back that he said it in a sarcastic manner. I think Yas is quite right with the latest items and Arch made a very good point about questions already answered, although some Zionite probably asked them again to get Niobe's viewpoint on it.

[Edited to prevent lockage due to flaming]

IMO, when someone adds 'Go ahead and bash me for this, I know you will' to a post, maybe the post ought to be re-thought as to why you may be 'bashed' (or, you know, corrected).

Yasamuu wrote:

IMO, when someone adds 'Go ahead and bash me for this, I know you will' to a post, maybe the post ought to be re-thought as to why you may be 'bashed' (or, you know, corrected).

You added 'Go ahead and bash me for this, I know you will' in your post, you should have ret-- Oh god, I did it too. OH GOD WHY

deimoslvov wrote:

Darminian wrote:

Sort of like the Neo RSI - hologram - which to my knowledge only became a hologram yesterday when rarebit said it was one.

Oh yeah, that part was odd. I wasn't there yet when all the Neo RSI story was going on, but I understood the "body" in Gracy was assembled from his RSI fragments. And all of a sudden I hear Niobe saying it's just a hologram.... *shrug* 

   One of the critical missions that occurred shortly after the RSI was placed in-game had Pace saying that it was just an image.  I remember this because, unless I'm mistaken, Agent Pace said it was the version that Morpheus displayed (meaning it's not made from the fragments they, the Merovingian, or anyone else had), and the mission implied that they somehow obtained it.

   There may have been at least one live event in the past where it was again mentioned that it was an image.