[9.2.5] You are under arrest for conspiracy against the System! - Recursion - 2/8/08

**CPT_Starschwar**

Reeverb wrote:

Ebola wrote:
So... the Morpheus Simulcra sort of can't survive out of the Matrix, can he? Why would he want to harm the System? Or is there something else going on, Pace?
If Morpheus could, he would give his life to destroy the Matrix to get Neo's remains.
I'm just saying, that's all.

Yep. And we've seen plenty of cases of exiles trying to destroy the system: General, Smith, The Assassin...

ThePigeonKing · 02/12/2008 10:30:12

Hm...? So Morpho-bot is under arrest for speaking to dangerous and powerful Exiles?

Don't we do this every day? Don't you Machinists collect and trade code to benefit Exiles? Don't you Machinists run errands for Exiles?

Pace, I believe we must arrest every single human operative for..."further questioning."

**CPT_Starschwar**

All about probable cause - this is a sim created by The General of Morpheus - two people who made serious attempts to do harm to the system. Not quite the same situation as loyal operatives.

ThePigeonKing

kou_urake wrote:

All about probable cause - this is a sim created by The General of Morpheus - two people who made serious attempts to do harm to the system. Not quite the same situation as loyal operatives.

This is the sim that gave up Zion's mainframe code.

**Erythnul**

Teach a new dog new tricks, but yet he still acts on his old tricks?...

Oh and if all you are an "Assumer" don't think for a second that I called the god of Dreams a dog. I have much more respect than that.

- E

**imax**

Tytanya_MxO wrote:

Err oh yeah...... errr........The man who located and inspired Neo, the chosen instrument of the oracle, the man whose actions provided machines and mankind it's only Peace for hundreds of years,

The Oracle didn't choose him... the machines did. She just knew what he was.

Croesis · 02/12/2008 12:20:08

imax wrote:

Tytanya_MxO wrote:

Err oh yeah...... errr........The man who located and inspired Neo, the chosen instrument of the oracle, the man whose actions provided machines and mankind it's only Peace for hundreds of years,

The Oracle didn't choose him... the machines did. She just knew what he was.

I personally think that the Simulation in its programming chose the suitable candidate for the carrier of the anomalous code, the Machines knew it would happen and almost when, and the Oracle, being a program, recognised the code.

Morpheus is a program, a simulation of the original who is dead. He was given incomplete memories and other aspects of the original by the General. The point is he is not the man people wish him to be but he still showed ability to emulate the original and as such can be as dangerous. He was instructed not to speak to those with agenda against the system, he did not comply and was therefore he was to be arrested. Arrested just means taken into custody not a sentence of death. He chose not to come quietly and explain his actions. So Pace attempted to take him by force. A poor decision? Possibly, but it depends on what she has been instructed by the system.

There is no evidence that Pace was going for the kill, If I can get someone to hold still by shooting a leg then Pace would be much better at it. It would not be efficient to kill him when trying to find out answers.

**Archangel**

imax wrote:

Rarebit wrote:
Bayamos wrote:
3 of the teams encountered Runtimes / Accelerators
Not quite.

wha? I know we encountered a runtime and accelerators that were corrupting machine programs which were attacking us. Not exactly sure what the other teams encountered then.

They were decelerators, at least the one in Gracy was. Not sure about the others, but maybe that's what he meant.

**imax**

Archangel wrote:

imax wrote:
Rarebit wrote:
Bayamos wrote:
3 of the teams encountered Runtimes / Accelerators
Not quite.

wha? I know we encountered a runtime and accelerators that were corrupting machine programs which were attacking us. Not exactly sure what the other teams encountered then.
They were decelerators, at least the one in Gracy was. Not sure about the others, but maybe that's what he meant.

ah yea, I got confused because we were fighting "Accelerated Machine programs"

**LtCmdr_Tsusai**

((If anyone cares....she did open fire and fired twice at him while he stood there and took both hits before running.))

**GoDGiVeR**

kou_urake wrote:

Yep. And we've seen plenty of cases of exiles trying to destroy the system: General, Smith, The Assassin...

Well, the urge to destroy comes from fleeing from an oppressive system (e.g. country). It's not like the Machines are happy about programs gaining their own will, which means that they have no means of mind-control and immediate unquestioned deletion. Usually programms gain their own will by find their purpose on their own by recognizing the errors in the system they live in.

I guess, if we wanted to destroy the Exiles, the easiest way would be to destroy the system that creates it, the Machines.

Oh wait, that sounds familiar. Isn't that the same way the Machines deal with Zion and their mishappenings? Ironic, isn't it?

- GG

Croesis

GoDGiVeR wrote:

Well, the urge to destroy comes from fleeing from an oppressive system (e.g. country). It's not like the Machines are happy about programs gaining their own will, which means that they have no means of mind-control and immediate unquestioned deletion. Usually programms gain their own will by find their purpose on their own by recognizing the errors in the system they live in.

Programs have their own will anyway, it is AI, but they have a different way of life to us, many quite happily return to the source when they become outdated or the simulation would probably be overflowing with Exiles, it is just the way their society works. The Machines aren't pursuing these programs because they have free will, they are doing it because they are not following the principles of Program/Machine culture. You cannot base their culture on ours. For every Exile you see there are most likely hundreds, probably thousands, of programs living through their runtime following the rules of their culture.

**CPT_Starschwar**

Indeed. Only 1% of mankind rejects the System. The System would not work if more than a similarly small percentage of programs were not working as intended. Not all exiles are marked for deletion, nor are all redpills to be killed. Only those that choose to do harm to the System are punished.

**ShiXinFeng**

I wonder what it was that took Pace aback for a second on that rooftop. . .

Hmm, as if she recognized something. . .or was surprised to find what she did.

Hmm, well, maybe she was just surprised to see that he hadn't escaped yet.

**Ryelle**

I really wanted to be there. Is there a certain time that live events take place?