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Clairvoyant

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"Same here. with my 3 gigs of RAM, and 8800gt 512 mb, I still get like 4 fps when running the 4.00  O_O is there a certain trick to changing your settings in the video card control panel that helps this?"


Anyone know? I have a monster rig. I'm diein' to know how far I can push this baby SMILEY



Mainframe Invader

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so are there any rules against using this stuff? I think my new comp could proberly handle it and i wanna give it a shot



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Sarathai wrote:
so are there any rules against using this stuff? I think my new comp could properly handle it and i wanna give it a shot
Well as it does not give you an advantage over another player i don't believe there would be rules against it, its more of a visual upgrade for urself SMILEY



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yeah i thought that myself but i was looking and reading last night and I saw a few people talking about possible perma bans which come with it lol.

The 400 1 runs good for me, i just put it in lol.  Could always remove it if there is a problem with it



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Sarathai wrote:
yeah i thought that myself but i was looking and reading last night and I saw a few people talking about possible perma bans which come with it lol.

The 400 1 runs good for me, i just put it in lol.  Could always remove it if there is a problem with it

just make sure you have a copy of your old useropts/options files to replaced them if needed.



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mantra777 wrote:
Sarathai wrote:
yeah i thought that myself but i was looking and reading last night and I saw a few people talking about possible perma bans which come with it lol.

The 400 1 runs good for me, i just put it in lol.  Could always remove it if there is a problem with it

just make sure you have a copy of your old useropts/options files to replaced them if needed.
even if you dont i believe the game will automatically make new ones for u when you launch the game with out them in the directory.. obviously though u will lose ur screen resolution etc, but that's not hard to change >_>



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yeah its ok, i copied em anyway. But  yeah if you delete em i think they just go back to default stuff anyways



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Was wondering if anyone might be able to help me out here.  My computer seems able to handle even the 4.00x versions of these configs just fine when it comes to framerates, but it seems that as the viewable distance level increases, I start losing certain effects.

When I use the 4.00x configs, I almost never see the effects from applying buffs to myself, or the effect of a hyperjump landing.  Even the sound of it is completely absent.  When I try the 2.00x configs, it seems that I see the effects about 25% of the time.  With the 1.25x configs, the effects occur about 50% of the time.  It's totally hit or miss here and not related to any particular area in the game or any one setting in the configs that I've found.

The only thing I can think of to relate to you guys is this:  Have you ever enabled hyper-speed, only to have the trailing matrix code effect disappear after a while, even though hyper-speed is still active?  Sometimes it happens after going through a hardline.  It's very similar to that, except it happens quite frequently with these configs and no hardline is necessary.

Any ideas?  I know it's an odd one, but I'd appreciate any thoughts.


Rig:
Phenom 9850 Black
Dual ATI HD 3850's (512mb each)
4GB RAM
Vista x64

yes yes, I know MxO is barely Vista compatible but please don't take the easy way out and blame Vista.  I've never had an effect cut out on me with non-cool configs.

Message edited by Frostbit on 06/01/2008 19:47:51.


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Frostbit wrote:
Was wondering if anyone might be able to help me out here.  My computer seems able to handle even the 4.00x versions of these configs just fine when it comes to framerates, but it seems that as the viewable distance level increases, I start losing certain effects.

When I use the 4.00x configs, I almost never see the effects from applying buffs to myself, or the effect of a hyperjump landing.  Even the sound of it is completely absent.  When I try the 2.00x configs, it seems that I see the effects about 25% of the time.  With the 1.25x configs, the effects occur about 50% of the time.  It's totally hit or miss here and not related to any particular area in the game or any one setting in the configs that I've found.

The only thing I can think of to relate to you guys is this:  Have you ever enabled hyper-speed, only to have the trailing matrix code effect disappear after a while, even though hyper-speed is still active?  Sometimes it happens after going through a hardline.  It's very similar to that, except it happens quite frequently with these configs and no hardline is necessary.

Any ideas?  I know it's an odd one, but I'd appreciate any thoughts.


Rig:
Phenom 9850 Black
Dual ATI HD 3850's (512mb each)
4GB RAM
Vista x64

yes yes, I know MxO is barely Vista compatible but please don't take the easy way out and blame Vista.  I've never had an effect cut out on me with non-cool configs.

some of these probs i have always had.. well one for sure.. My hyper-speed "efx" does fade away after awhile.  no matter what setting, what card, which pc, or which OS i use.  dunno why... i havent been able to fix it.  The Hyper-Jump effect and sound (mostly the landing) was messed up for me for awhile,,,   i just changed my over clock speed in my system bios and it fixed it.  i was like... wow.  thats all i needed to do???  The system i was using while having the HJ effect issue was new as was/is the bios.  I just needed to turn it down a tad from max overclocking.

 

I KNOW, my typing is messed up, at a friends and his keyboard is halfazzd, tiny keys... sorry.

SMILEY




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Frostbit wrote:
Was wondering if anyone might be able to help me out here.  My computer seems able to handle even the 4.00x versions of these configs just fine when it comes to framerates, but it seems that as the viewable distance level increases, I start losing certain effects.

When I use the 4.00x configs, I almost never see the effects from applying buffs to myself, or the effect of a hyperjump landing.  Even the sound of it is completely absent.  When I try the 2.00x configs, it seems that I see the effects about 25% of the time.  With the 1.25x configs, the effects occur about 50% of the time.  It's totally hit or miss here and not related to any particular area in the game or any one setting in the configs that I've found.

The only thing I can think of to relate to you guys is this:  Have you ever enabled hyper-speed, only to have the trailing matrix code effect disappear after a while, even though hyper-speed is still active?  Sometimes it happens after going through a hardline.  It's very similar to that, except it happens quite frequently with these configs and no hardline is necessary.

Any ideas?  I know it's an odd one, but I'd appreciate any thoughts.
I've always had the Hyperspeed trail disappearing, but recently I upgraded my 3d card from a GeForce 7900GT to a Radeon 3870. I kept my old useropts, didn't change my game settings at all and a lot of my effects aren't there anymore. Just like your problem, could it possibly be your rig? Mine chokes even at 1.25, so I made my own "1.1" setting. But it never seemed to be related to my useropts.



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Just got a new rig... Anyone that can send me the OP's op.cfg and userop.cfg, it would be appreciated.



Virulent Mind

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ZETAX101 wrote:
Just got a new rig... Anyone that can send me the OP's op.cfg and userop.cfg, it would be appreciated.

^^


Just click on my links a few posts up on this page of the thread.  These are Ann Bazman's Opt. and user Opt. files that she last gave me.  Unless she finished new ones, these are the most up to date. 




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Pylat wrote:
I've always had the Hyperspeed trail disappearing, but recently I upgraded my 3d card from a GeForce 7900GT to a Radeon 3870. I kept my old useropts, didn't change my game settings at all and a lot of my effects aren't there anymore. Just like your problem, could it possibly be your rig? Mine chokes even at 1.25, so I made my own "1.1" setting. But it never seemed to be related to my useropts.

Well then it could conceivably be an ATI-specific problem then, huh.  That stinks.  I had to drop down to the 1.25 configs because they seem to display the effects most frequently while still giving me half decent draw distances.  I wish I could go higher, but I do like all those effects too.

I think I've narrowed it down to these three settings:
dl_sid_prefetchradius
dl_sidi_prefetchradius
dl_nav_prefetchradius

When I drop these three settings down, my effects appear more frequently, but things stop being drawn further out.  The fog is still way out there, but it looks as if bridges and buildings have just been sliced in half with a knife!


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Frostbit wrote:
Pylat wrote:
I've always had the Hyperspeed trail disappearing, but recently I upgraded my 3d card from a GeForce 7900GT to a Radeon 3870. I kept my old useropts, didn't change my game settings at all and a lot of my effects aren't there anymore. Just like your problem, could it possibly be your rig? Mine chokes even at 1.25, so I made my own "1.1" setting. But it never seemed to be related to my useropts.

Well then it could conceivably be an ATI-specific problem then, huh.  That stinks.  I had to drop down to the 1.25 configs because they seem to display the effects most frequently while still giving me half decent draw distances.  I wish I could go higher, but I do like all those effects too.

I think I've narrowed it down to these three settings:
dl_sid_prefetchradius
dl_sidi_prefetchradius
dl_nav_prefetchradius

When I drop these three settings down, my effects appear more frequently, but things stop being drawn further out.  The fog is still way out there, but it looks as if bridges and buildings have just been sliced in half with a knife!

Hmm,,, ill have to mess with those 3 and see if i have any similarities.  Like Pylat, I also am ATi.  I have a new rig with two of the Radeon HD 3870's (oc edition, with 1gb of GDDR3, runs on DX 10.1 tech, with shader model 4.1, etc) on a new CrossfireX motherboard with two of the newer PCI.e 2 (X16) lanes, with a CrossFireX bridge, to totally complete the Quad-GPU's connection.  8GB's dual channel DDR2 (four 2gb ddr2 dual channel nvidia SLI sticks)  ....*gasp! , sorry, i 4got to breathe!*  Well anyway, its not done yet, I'm waiting on finding a couple specific parts that i want, instead of finishing it with any old part(s)...  dont wanna spend the money on something im just gonna replace soon -ya know?   Too bad this Rig i've been typing about here wont enhance MxO much, if any.  =(  sorry, kinda got excited thinking about the completed project.  It will be by far the most enhanced Rig i have ever made.  As long as Pylat has the same Radeon 3870 version that mine are, im sure he'd understand.   rofl

SMILEY

-Ang 




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ANGEIiS wrote:
Frostbit wrote:
Pylat wrote:
I've always had the Hyperspeed trail disappearing, but recently I upgraded my 3d card from a GeForce 7900GT to a Radeon 3870. I kept my old useropts, didn't change my game settings at all and a lot of my effects aren't there anymore. Just like your problem, could it possibly be your rig? Mine chokes even at 1.25, so I made my own "1.1" setting. But it never seemed to be related to my useropts.

Well then it could conceivably be an ATI-specific problem then, huh.  That stinks.  I had to drop down to the 1.25 configs because they seem to display the effects most frequently while still giving me half decent draw distances.  I wish I could go higher, but I do like all those effects too.

I think I've narrowed it down to these three settings:
dl_sid_prefetchradius
dl_sidi_prefetchradius
dl_nav_prefetchradius

When I drop these three settings down, my effects appear more frequently, but things stop being drawn further out.  The fog is still way out there, but it looks as if bridges and buildings have just been sliced in half with a knife!

Hmm,,, ill have to mess with those 3 and see if i have any similarities.  Like Pylat, I also am ATi.  I have a new rig with two of the Radeon HD 3870's (oc edition, with 1gb of GDDR3, runs on DX 10.1 tech, with shader model 4.1, etc) on a new CrossfireX motherboard with two of the newer PCI.e 2 (X16) lanes, with a CrossFireX bridge, to totally complete the Quad-GPU's connection.  8GB's dual channel DDR2 (four 2gb ddr2 dual channel nvidia SLI sticks)  ....*gasp! , sorry, i 4got to breathe!*  Well anyway, its not done yet, I'm waiting on finding a couple specific parts that i want, instead of finishing it with any old part(s)...  dont wanna spend the money on something im just gonna replace soon -ya know?   Too bad this Rig i've been typing about here wont enhance MxO much, if any.  =(  sorry, kinda got excited thinking about the completed project.  It will be by far the most enhanced Rig i have ever made.  As long as Pylat has the same Radeon 3870 version that mine are, im sure he'd understand.   rofl

SMILEY

-Ang 

I believe we have the same rig..Well i don't have 8 gigs of ram but i got 4!!And yeah,i don't see a lot of difference!Let's face it,this game is really old!

 
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