[11.2.4] The Machines have surrounded the pods - Syntax - 10/9/08

**Illyria22**

The needs of the many...

Illyria

**GamiSB** · 10/20/2008 09:00:33

Illyria22 wrote:

The needs of the many...

Illyria

So hypothetical, by that logic it's then totally ok that a few are being horribly murdered and there lives destroyed because everyone else is living a wonderful happy life?

If that's how it is then let the 1% do their thing, they are the few when compared to the other 99% ya know.

*edit*

the hypocrite comment was unneeded.

**Illyria22**

It's not ok. But if it's a choice between a few dying to save many, or many dying to save a few, there's really no choice to make.

Zion's taken its share of bluepill lives too. Think of the freeway chase, before the truce, and all the accidents it caused. And after the truce, the groups of redpills killing agents and their bluepill hosts for their tie clips.

Zion's killed many to save just a few, but they've also killed for fun. That's the difference between us, and why I could never willingly stay with Zion.

Illyria

**Ballak**

Well if it's any consolation, regardless of what the Machines think, we were there (Sentience) trying to save the bluepill, as well as forcing Danielle Wright to deal with us on several occasions. Unfortunately in the end, there just wasn't anything we could do. Bluepills are generally high priority, safety-wise, except when higher priorities take its place. BIP being one of them, as much as I hate to admit it, or Danielle Wright.

Just one of the few occasions the enemy of my enemy became my friend. Just for a night at least.

**GamiSB**

Ballak wrote:

Well if it's any consolation, regardless of what the Machines think, we were there (Sentience) trying to save the bluepill, as well as forcing Danielle Wright to deal with us on several occasions. Unfortunately in the end, there just wasn't anything we could do. Bluepills are generally high priority, safety-wise, except when higher priorities take its place. BIP being one of them, as much as I hate to admit it, or Danielle Wright.
Just one of the few occasions the enemy of my enemy became my friend. Just for a night at least.

It is consolation and I at least thank you for your help. Really I was only messing with Illyria as the machine did help and you can never expect to make everyone happy. It's just bad luck really as to what happened and given the circumstances understandable as to why the Machine had such an increase in security around the pods. Could ti have gone down differently if there wasn't? Perhaps but that didn't happen so whats the point in arguing over it now.

**GoDGiVeR** · 10/20/2008 09:12:03

Illyria22 wrote:

It's not ok. But if it's a choice between a few dying to save many, or many dying to save a few, there's really no choice to make.

This is where you are wrong. This is a choice nobody is allowed to make except for the person in question. But reality is cruel and the less people feel, the less they care about this fact. First in list are the Machines, last are the Bluepills (exceptions always will exist). And if you want to know the truth, Redpills are really not far off to the Machines, there exists no Redpill who hasn't killed alot of people, doesn't matter if they are Exiles, Blues or Reds, innocent or guilty.

An especially crucial factor is the EJP, it dulls the sense of living, but encourages compassion for others and pride in oneself, creating a subconscious feeling of immortality, endless freedom, god. So wrong.

And in the end, there's only so little only a few selected of us Reds have achieved. The rest is overshadowed by a cloud of gunpowder and a hail of bullets.

Illyria22 wrote:

Zion's taken its share of bluepill lives too. Think of the freeway chase, before the truce, and all the accidents it caused. And after the truce, the groups of redpills killing agents and their bluepill hosts for their tie clips.
Zion's killed many to save just a few, but they've also killed for fun. That's the difference between us, and why I could never willingly stay with Zion.
Illyria

Point taken (but same goes also for every organisation I fear, Illyria), but it is the above I wanted to state.

- GG