Update 39 - Hotfix Discussion Thread

**Walrus**

This thread is for discussing the hotfix to Update 39 scheduled to release on January 11, 2006. You can read the notes here.

**Symmetric**

I didn't even know about the exploit until an announcement was made about it. Good to know it's being fixed. SMILEY

**jeffers**

Woohoo, big patch. SMILEY

Is that all it's going to do?

Jeffers

TetraCleric

So does this mean that we will finally be seeing more people reset?

**Fickey**

Walrus, you made me think I could reply to the notes thread...im going to cry now!

Niceness on the patch SMILEY

**RemagDiv**

I heard people got reset back to level 2 who used this! lol

Good job cracking it down.

bonobi

thanks walrus and devs for puting down the law quickly with these bad apples.
Even though I think they should have been banned like the rules state...they still got a fitting punishment for exploiting. Hopefully this will deter others from ever thinking about exploit.

RainKingX

jeffers wrote:
Woohoo, big patch.

Is that all it's going to do?

Jeffers

Any patch is a good patch.

**ZaneZavin**

Thanks for getting this fix out SMILEY

Twister1352

..... what if they copied their char's to the QA servers before you lowered their levels.... can you please look into this? I dont want to fight exploiters on the QA

WGAnubis1

Though im glad you are shutting down another exploit Walrus and company as well as penalizing everyone who used it... but did this really warrent an entire hotfix just for itself? I mean doesnt that mean you have to restart the servers for this? Kinda obserd to make a patch JUST for this if thats the case. Wouldnt it have made more sence to wait till the next patch?

DragonStorm

WGAnubis wrote:
Though im glad you are shutting down another exploit Walrus and company as well as penalizing everyone who used it... but did this really warrent an entire hotfix just for itself? I mean doesnt that mean you have to restart the servers for this? Kinda obserd to make a patch JUST for this if thats the case. Wouldnt it have made more sence to wait till the next patch?

I think its one of those things where the longer they leave it in, more people will abuse it, just like any exploit really, so If they wait unitl the next big patch - it just means they have alot more work to do tracking down the exploiters, and ultimately may miss some of them, which is just unfair on us regular players!
I'll be glad to see it go, I've been hearing that alot of players are going to be getting punished for this, which means less competition for us on Vector! hehe

gavin

someone said to me they was dropped down to level 2 that used it fair enough.

But they was a level 45 before that ok they used it but you took all there hard earned xp thats out of order if it was me i would cancel account think before you do things dev's its not the players fault there are bug's thats your job dont blame then for useing it if everyone new of it they would have all used it never mind its dun fixed move on

**Manatik**

I somewhat agree with Gavin here, I have a couple of guys in my faction that that happened to, they came across the Security Device accidentally and now are back to level 2 when before they were 39 and 45.

The devs should be more careful and not having things like this out there and not punish those who only come accross it, I am not saying that whay my mates did was right either, but at least remove the "gained" experience as Walrus quoted, not all their prior levels as well.

If it was something like the agent spawn thing, ya, ban their arses, that messes up an entire server! But this wasn't hurting nobody else...

Again, I dont agree but the devs are at fault here too and they should at least apologize for creating the situation

gavin wrote:
someone said to me they was dropped down to level 2 that used it fair enough.
But they was a level 45 before that ok they used it but you took all there hard earned xp thats out of order if it was me i would cancel account think before you do things dev's its not the players fault there are bug's thats your job dont blame then for useing it if everyone new of it they would have all used it never mind its dun fixed move on

Chuui

someone said to me they was dropped down to level 2 that used it fair enough.
But they was a level 45 before that ok they used it but you took all there hard earned xp thats out of order if it was me i would cancel account think before you do things dev's its not the players fault there are bug's thats your job dont blame then for useing it if everyone new of it they would have all used it never mind its dun fixed move on

I don't agree at all. They got off lightly. Instead of being put back to level two, they should have been banned from all SOE games. So they exploited after hitting level 45, tough luck. They should just be happy that they can, in fact, still play the game. If you don't like the thought of losing *all* your levels, don't ever touch an exploit. They have served as a very good example for everyone else. Take note.