Hydrazine wrote:
We started the meeting with questions and ended the meeting without answers. Oh, except that EPN withholds information from Zion... huh?? That guy shouldve been booted for disrupting the meeting, starting false rumors about EPN, and disrespecting half the group that was there because they are EPN.
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You know, I would make a long-winded post about how it isn't a "false rumor", and that you only think it's false because you're inside and looking out, but it would probably get this thread locked. ¬_¬
Sounds like nothing went wrong with any of these meetings except for false hopes, people trying to be a little naughty (and failing) and too many of the same questions being already answered before. Am I right in assuming this? All bull aside, I mean? If so this could mean this current system is doing A-OK, other than a lot of players missing the usual daily event thing. I mean, look at all the work Rarebit's gotten done. He was done with the new winter content weeks ago, and it looks like he may be working on even newer content right now.
Othinn1 wrote:
Hydrazine wrote:We started the meeting with questions and ended the meeting without answers. Oh, except that EPN withholds information from Zion... huh?? That guy shouldve been booted for disrupting the meeting, starting false rumors about EPN, and disrespecting half the group that was there because they are EPN. ... You know, I would make a long-winded post about how it isn't a "false rumor", and that you only think it's false because you're inside and looking out, but it would probably get this thread locked. ¬_¬
*recalls messageing Othinn of locations of EPN events and chat logs numberous times*
GamiSB wrote:
Othinn1 wrote:Hydrazine wrote:We started the meeting with questions and ended the meeting without answers. Oh, except that EPN withholds information from Zion... huh?? That guy shouldve been booted for disrupting the meeting, starting false rumors about EPN, and disrespecting half the group that was there because they are EPN. ... You know, I would make a long-winded post about how it isn't a "false rumor", and that you only think it's false because you're inside and looking out, but it would probably get this thread locked. ¬_¬*recalls messageing Othinn of locations of EPN events and chat logs numberous times*
True, but you're one out of about three EPN players that actually helps me. It seems that the rest of EPN on all three servers would rather see me face down in a river.
GamiSB wrote:Othinn1 wrote:Hydrazine wrote:We started the meeting with questions and ended the meeting without answers. Oh, except that EPN withholds information from Zion... huh?? That guy shouldve been booted for disrupting the meeting, starting false rumors about EPN, and disrespecting half the group that was there because they are EPN. ... You know, I would make a long-winded post about how it isn't a "false rumor", and that you only think it's false because you're inside and looking out, but it would probably get this thread locked. ¬_¬*recalls messageing Othinn of locations of EPN events and chat logs numberous times* True, but you're one out of about three EPN players that actually helps me. It seems that the rest of EPN on all three servers would rather see me face down in a river.
Point is some of us made sure that those who wern't intersted in personal gain and were intersted in the comunity as a whole knew what was going on. No information realted to events or intel has been witheld from those people and if it was it was revealed later to them when it was most relevent.
And to the people complaining about the data the Oracle gave EPN? yeah no one, not even EPN knows what the eff that is so turn your complaints towards Rarebit and not the org.
K so... I start all my posts that way... get used to it
I too, was inititially quite dissapointed in the meeting. Like Darminian, sometimes i just want to throttle everyone for having the most Whacked out ideas about whats going on in the story. Otherwise, didnt agree with him much.
however, in looking through some of Rare's responses to the machine meeting thread, he has clearly openly stated that he was there to get feedback on operatves Ideas about the story, what interests them, etc. This is the FIRST Chapter of this new approach. Rare has claimed that he wants a more OPEN storyline, that is less-linear.... Do we expect him to accomplish that by coming in and telling us what the story is?
I think what I saw is Rare establishing an opening move... come in and ask questions. Now that hes got some answers, we may see responses in the Cinematic and Missions on the next Update. I would also like to think that we will return to a certain number of LE's over the course of the next update. And I expect that, if we look closely, Those events will address exactly the things that we discussed in the meeting.
Guess I'm saying, don't throw in the towel yet people. But i too hope that this is just the initial phase... if we go a month or two with the same basic approach, Im just gonna reduce my presence and become an occasional show up and PvP player.
Waiting to see....
*recalls a posting of a given LE log that didn't have the faction chat removed.*
GodTier wrote:
It isn't a-ok. It's as planned.
There are lots of plans, and lots of them go accordingly.
But that doesn't make them good plans.
I played this game for the dynamic content, now that it's shifted from about 75% dynamic 25% static to 80% static 20% dynamic (where the dynamic is intensely lackluster to begin with), it's become disinteresting. As a paying customer, I voice my dissatisfaction with the way the new system functions in relation to the way the old system functioned as I feel that the money I have paid for content and service has gone towards a negative change in content and service.
Just because it happens doesn't mean it should.
When I first read about the org meetings and how they were just going to be discussions, I thought to myself, okay, rarebit knows that just standing around talking is boring and that he will add something mid-way through to liven it up. Such as, Agents find our location and attack or.. there is some lvl 70 recording our conversation and we have to track him down and get the recording. Something like Enter the Matrix/Matrix reloaded, where the captain's meeting (the same one that rarebit keeps referring to that these meetings are suppose to reflect) is broken up by agents/security and Neo fights the agents and all the captains have to get away from the security and get to a hardline safely.
If this is just a transition to be the end of all interaction whatsoever, just put the horse out of its misery now.
LtCmdr_Tsusai wrote:
Othinn1 wrote:GamiSB wrote:Othinn1 wrote:Hydrazine wrote:We started the meeting with questions and ended the meeting without answers. Oh, except that EPN withholds information from Zion... huh?? That guy shouldve been booted for disrupting the meeting, starting false rumors about EPN, and disrespecting half the group that was there because they are EPN. ... You know, I would make a long-winded post about how it isn't a "false rumor", and that you only think it's false because you're inside and looking out, but it would probably get this thread locked. ¬_¬*recalls messageing Othinn of locations of EPN events and chat logs numberous times* True, but you're one out of about three EPN players that actually helps me. It seems that the rest of EPN on all three servers would rather see me face down in a river.*recalls a posting of a given LE log that didn't have the faction chat removed.*
You were all treating me badly long before that, plus I'm talking about EPN on all servers.
psilody wrote:
K so... I start all my posts that way... get used to it I too, was inititially quite dissapointed in the meeting. Like Darminian, sometimes i just want to throttle everyone for having the most Whacked out ideas about whats going on in the story. Otherwise, didnt agree with him much.however, in looking through some of Rare's responses to the machine meeting thread, he has clearly openly stated that he was there to get feedback on operatves Ideas about the story, what interests them, etc. This is the FIRST Chapter of this new approach. Rare has claimed that he wants a more OPEN storyline, that is less-linear.... Do we expect him to accomplish that by coming in and telling us what the story is?I think what I saw is Rare establishing an opening move... come in and ask questions. Now that hes got some answers, we may see responses in the Cinematic and Missions on the next Update. I would also like to think that we will return to a certain number of LE's over the course of the next update. And I expect that, if we look closely, Those events will address exactly the things that we discussed in the meeting.Guess I'm saying, don't throw in the towel yet people. But i too hope that this is just the initial phase... if we go a month or two with the same basic approach, Im just gonna reduce my presence and become an occasional show up and PvP player.Waiting to see....
Well, if it turns up to be true, I'll give it to thumbs up and reconsider what I said about my dissapointement. Honestly.
Well I respect those that think they like these meetings. I'm amazed you can put up with such lacklustre content. But lets not go moaning at those who don't like it. Rare needs to get feedback from both sides, and so I'm adding feedback to the "I don't like it" side.
If this is the content we can expect then I applaud those who persevere but I certainly won't be hanging around to stand there. The level of content is dire now. 5 weeks of missions condensed into 1hrs work. And all this amazing content? Clothing items that are mostly obtained doing the same 2 quests again and again (and again and again). A few pieces are elsewhere sure, but they're for quest givers that most people probably did ages ago.
GreyMountain wrote:
Really?
In thise case i put my feedback too.
Well i don't like this meeting cause after asking our question and get the answer(?!?! Belive im one that like much criptyc answer but those answer are too criptyc) , we can still do nothing until the next chapter of the story will be relased.
Of course during the old LE, the story was already written too, but at least we got the interest to jacking in cause no one know for sure when the next LE will take place.
Now the difference is that we know for sure that nothing will happen until next chapter come out, after that we can learn the news in 3-4 days, then what?
NOTHING!!
Sure you can say, there is a lot of things to do inside mxo, content archve construct pvp etc. but it all things yet done, with no more interston doing, or maybe thing tha can be interesting after playng for three four time lose interest.
Before this contents can fill the empty between the LE, now, the story fill the empty between the content..... for semething interesting we just need to pray that some good LESIG ( God bless them all) will jack in and give us something for let our brains work, otherwise we all becoming like bot gang in the city doing every time we jack in the same boring not interestin routine.........
My feedback on the meetings.... well if the LE will come back one per org per month per server is a good interesting thing, but stand alone is useless cause we can receive the same information we received ( i talk for zion meeting) simply reading the LE forum.......
P.S.
I forget, but i think to understand that if some question asked to the leaders (niobe in my case) was of some insignificance (is this the word for) will be ignored.
Well maybe this is why i asked two time niobe what is the official position of zion about the "nameless crew" and the thermal fragment stuff and get twice ignored. I was aspecting at least something like "zion got no position on this specific topic ((this is a lesig stuff so i don't know nothing about it ask them)).
SEPET wrote:
Now the difference is that we know for sure that nothing will happen until next chapter come out, after that we can learn the news in 3-4 days, then what?NOTHING!!
You know that for sure do you? Your basing your fact on being halfway through the first chapter in the new approach and allowing for the point that Rarebit may be settling into it and that he may change his methods based on reactions by players this first time round.
If rare think to change the lack of "interesting things" to do in the next future he can simply tell us something like "yes this is a transitional state", how many time we need to wait before people even in mara or in (chapter area) will decrease from 50 of 2 month ago to 10 of yesterday.
I host the italian fan mxo site and the % of italian player interested now in mxo is going down to... just me and 2-3 of my crewmate.
Bringing game EVENT from daily to 0 is not a good way to make thing, at least is my opinion and of most italian player or at least of the ones i know.
