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Jacked Out

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Tell me you're adding moar background for SSR your gum description has me hooked :O


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TonyJaa wrote:
The Leo wrote:
phi wrote:
I like the idea of being able to use a rifle other than the "Victory" (It gives a very good chance of staggered, which is of course handy for Kung-Fu interlock)
It would be awesome if you could make an MA Enhanced (or sheilded... but enhanced is better) version of green-void glasses, other colours can be watever... but green needs to be MA. - As it is my beta pants provide nothing but sexy looks.

Maybe a lvl 50 beanie?

It all sounds good SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" />

The LESIG spawn tools sound good too. Obviously general release spawn tools = chaos at parties/hardlines a-la early pandora problems.
No more hats ktnx...
We still don't have any 1337 lvl 50 pants hint hint...
It's time for Seraph's jacket...
yeah we  need some MA clothing  besides the Tiger GISMILEY



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Very exciting, Rarebit! Thanks for keeping us informed!

I agree with everyone who said that giving npc-tool access to "event coordinators" is a bad idea. If the tool is implemented at all, restricting it to LESIG members is definitely the right way to go. Firstly, LESIG members' applications to become LESIG members were approved for a reason - Rarebit believed they would do the job well and not abuse or neglect the position. By calling any LESIG member's quality or dedication into question you're insulting Rarebit's decision to make them LESIG, which I don't believe Rarebit deserves.

Secondly, anyone can organize a player event at any point in time, so "event coordinators" actually just means "the entire player base." And frankly, 75% (my own flawed estimate) of MxO's playerbase doesn't have a high enough level of creativity, maturity, or (most importantly) restraint to make appropriate use of a tool that spawns NPC's.

I totally love the idea of more enhanced level 50 guns!

But, I disagree with the thought that all the organizations need to be equalized in any way, whether by adding FM-1500 equivalents for the other 2 orgs, or what have you. In the Matrix and in the Real - Machines hold the power. The scales are completely unbalanced. Zion is the underdog and the Merovingian is neutral (playing off both sides for maximum self-benefit). Add Machine-aligned redpills, and the balance is tipped even more in favour of the machines. Fairness should have nothing to do with anything. The Matrix is SUPPOSED to be balanced in favour of the Machines. They made it, they run it.




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Vampyress wrote:

Very exciting, Rarebit! Thanks for keeping us informed!

I agree with everyone who said that giving npc-tool access to "event coordinators" is a bad idea. If the tool is implemented at all, restricting it to LESIG members is definitely the right way to go. Firstly, LESIG members' applications to become LESIG members were approved for a reason - Rarebit believed they would do the job well and not abuse or neglect the position. By calling any LESIG member's quality or dedication into question you're insulting Rarebit's decision to make them LESIG, which I don't believe Rarebit deserves.

Secondly, anyone can organize a player event at any point in time, so "event coordinators" actually just means "the entire player base." And frankly, 75% (my own flawed estimate) of MxO's playerbase doesn't have a high enough level of creativity, maturity, or (most importantly) restraint to make appropriate use of a tool that spawns NPC's.


Clearly, you haven't paid attention to LESIG's track record.

It's already been established that LESIG wasn't chosen on the grounds of who gives more effort to the community, which in all honesty, it should have been because if people put in effort then they deserve it. We can't even get LESIG to log in half of the time so who's to say some of them won't abuse these items as well?

There are other people who wish to be creative in this community as well, and it shouldn't be restricted to just a handful of community members. LESIG already get to be the only ones that plan events where story characters show up, now they get NPC spawns too? Really, what's the point of even trying to entertain your friends anymore. We've slowly been reduced to an audience watching a TV show.

And while we're on the subject of insulting, good job insulting the community in the second paragraph there. Much appreciated.



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Rarebit wrote:

- Complete level 50 Enhanced weapon variety
This is the one I'm least sure about being able to complete for the next update, but hopefully I'll be able to make Enhanced level 50 weapons for every standard non-silenced gun model type, dropping as random loot like the current ones do (I think?). Most of the gun models have never been available in level 50 Enhanced form, so people currently have a limited variety of top level gun styles to choose from, which is no fun. And here some of you probably thought that one mission redpill's "Grishev" comment was a joke. =p


So what exactly does that do to the FM-1500?

Just curious.  Just seems like it's kind of losing its effectiveness considering where it comes from.



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Vampyress wrote:

But, I disagree with the thought that all the organizations need to be equalized in any way, whether by adding FM-1500 equivalents for the other 2 orgs, or what have you. In the Matrix and in the Real - Machines hold the power. The scales are completely unbalanced. Zion is the underdog and the Merovingian is neutral (playing off both sides for maximum self-benefit). Add Machine-aligned redpills, and the balance is tipped even more in favour of the machines. Fairness should have nothing to do with anything. The Matrix is SUPPOSED to be balanced in favour of the Machines. They made it, they run it.


Rarebit isn't adding the Org Abils because it takes the ideological choice out of what org you want to join, giving the machs an awesome rewards no one else can get is one huge reason why people could decide to join the Machs, at least they will get a reward that has better stats than anything you can naturally get ingame and they still get Perp rewards which everyone else get.

Yes it is about the experiances and not the rewards, but who wouldn't want to create a virus, have your name go down in MxO history as the one who helped find the Generals base in the real and have your name imortalised in Archives AND get a FM-1500 to boot?
The machines still hold the power, Zion is always pooped on from an enormus height, thats why we have had nearly a whole year of level 100 Agent Spawns.




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timeframe01 wrote:

So what exactly does that do to the FM-1500?

Just curious.  Just seems like it's kind of losing its effectiveness considering where it comes from.

I think the FM-1500 is mostly awesome 'cos it's a cool looking gun and the name is recognised - it's what the Agents use. But if nothing else it'll probably still be 1 point higher damage than the other level 50 pistols.



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Archangel wrote:
Clearly, you haven't paid attention to LESIG's track record.

It's already been established that LESIG wasn't chosen on the grounds of who gives more effort to the community, which in all honesty, it should have been because if people put in effort then they deserve it. We can't even get LESIG to log in half of the time so who's to say some of them won't abuse these items as well?

There are other people who wish to be creative in this community as well, and it shouldn't be restricted to just a handful of community members. LESIG already get to be the only ones that plan events where story characters show up, now they get NPC spawns too? Really, what's the point of even trying to entertain your friends anymore. We've slowly been reduced to an audience watching a TV show.

And while we're on the subject of insulting, good job insulting the community in the second paragraph there. Much appreciated.

I'll be the first to happily admit that my comments about the LESIG are based solely on my own interactions with them, which have only ever been 100% enjoyable. Why? Because I'm not forcing my expectations on them and simply take what they offer at face value.

As for my comment about the community on the whole, it's just my opinion. I apologize if you found it offensive, but everyone is entitled to an opinion. No where have I ever found that to be more obvious than on these forums.




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on the subject of the spawning npcs for players, i think it's a great idea. just make it like a PB, you do a mission to get it, and you can only open it in downtown. this makes it good for RP but bad for abusing it.

also, with the org balance vs RP, i don't mind small game play compromises to enhance the story; the game is story driven after all, but it really seems that Zion is getting quite the short stick in the name of the story. lvl 100 agents in all but one district and no proper org rewards, while the machines have agents spawning to help them (at LEs) and a very cool, and very good gun as an org reward. That said, the other org rewards dont have to be weapons, they just have to be useful to all classes. (tho i would much prefer weapons SMILEY)



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Vampyress wrote:

 

I agree with everyone who said that giving npc-tool access to "event coordinators" is a bad idea. If the tool is implemented at all, restricting it to LESIG members is definitely the right way to go. Firstly, LESIG members' applications to become LESIG members were approved for a reason - Rarebit believed they would do the job well and not abuse or neglect the position. By calling any LESIG member's quality or dedication into question you're insulting Rarebit's decision to make them LESIG, which I don't believe Rarebit deserves.

Unfortunately as you were not here to "live through it" and things have only just recently begun to have an upswing as far as LESIG goes, that entire piece you just wrote is invalidated because it is based on an opinion that has not been tempered via fact.


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Awesome. Sounds like you've got some primo stuff brewing there, Rare. I really like the idea of giving LESIG spawn tools, since I remember at the start of the war, 9mmfu spawning a bunch of agents on our Zion-EPN meeting, now we could have surprises like that which add to the experience without having to pull away from dev time. Enhanced level 50 weapons are, of course, awesome, and I think something that the community has wanted for a while now (I know I have) and the fact that they'll be in different styles is great. Datamine stuff's cool - new clothing is always great and the critical mission consumable sounds handy. Especially if you get an accumulation of those - it could really help you out in a live event (like, say, running out of IS a little too quickly while hacking puffballs) or in PvP.

Increasing the DPS of the Shadow moves... Well, that probably won't get them farmed any more, simply because it's so hard to do, and there's such little gained. I think if you got like... Five per drop or something, you'd see a lot more people farming them, because right now, assembling a team for one (two if you're lucky) pill(s) per kill (which generally takes a good several minutes)... It takes a very long time to get each person to 20 pills. We'd done this before and I'm pretty sure the most anyone on our team had after say... An hour or two was 5 pills. Don't get me wrong, the effects are cool and the damage is formidable (especially with the improvement) but it's just too much of a grind.

As far as releasing spawn tools to the general public, I'd say don't do it. It is enough of a liability giving them to LESIG (though a necessary one, in order to give them the power they need to successfully play their role). Proof that it would be used for disruption is present enough in Fen and Bindi's wedding where multiple players shot at people who were trying to rid the scene of a Smith'd agent who had been brought there for the purpose of disruption. Perhaps, as Archangel said, a requisition could be arranged, requiring a detailed explanation for the requisition of a consumable spawn tool, but even then, I'd be skeptical.

But if you're going to that it would be wicked cool if we could get consumable Code Bombs/Code Pulses too, through a similar requisition or something *wink wink, nudge nudge, point at sig*

Glad to hear about these improvements on the docket, though. I'll be looking forward to them.


Message edited by Neoteny on 04/07/2008 14:16:31.



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Havocide wrote:
Cervacius wrote:

Since when are you not allowed to interact with a liaison OOC?  You can interact with a liaison OOC, they just have to react to you IC.  Let's go with a scenario.

Player:  I'm having a meeting with the rest of the Machines this Saturday, can you make it?  ((Basically, I want you to come and at the end of the meeting spawn some Merv NPCs.  Is that cool?))
Liaison:  Sure, I'd be happy to come.

Problem solved. 

Cut out the middle man and just let players use the spawn tools. Lesig can barely be trusted to show up let alone spawn an NPC.

Horrible idea, if people like me got a hold of those things...


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oh i guess im the only one who just noticed another construct oh that would be awsome



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That's probably because he didn't mention a new construct, just beefing up of a few of the current ones.



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Rarebit wrote:
I've sort of ended up with a variety of things I've put on my plate for update 60. Hopefully I can get it all done, because for the update after that I kind of want to make another, very different construct. But that's getting quite a bit ahead of myself.



 
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