[8.3.2] A lot of people want a piece of this guy - Vector - 10/12/07

Pyraci

GoDGiVeR wrote:

Humankind does not destroy itself per se. A Minority forces themselves with "power" upon the majority and then force both parties in extinction. Leadership is great, no?

The Machines are no exception. It hasn't happened, yet, doesn't mean it won't. There is still credit to be given to the Machines where it is due in that resort. Blood credit, that is.

-GG

Indeed. I'm just being a sarcastic jerk. SMILEY

Illyria22 wrote:

It's quite likely.

Illyria

But not certain.

**Calavera** · 10/17/2007 18:10:52

When the God of Dreams truly presents himself, there will be true chaos within he simulation, for a time. Until then, this sim will serve his purpose, and show his faults.

Let us not forget, what the real Morpheus told a select few before his "death".

I will not quote, because some of you know just exactly *CENSORED* im talking about.

*MOD: Checksum - Bypassing the profanity filter is not permitted. Please don't*

ReProgrammed

Tosuno wrote:

While he does help Zion out with his crusaders, fact remains that I still will always question his competents as a leader.

Care full with that word. Things don't go so well when you say crusaders or say you are on a crusade. Just look at the Christian faith.

-ReProgrammed-

Steelle

Br00ch wrote:

Tosuno wrote:
ChloeAnn wrote:
While he does help Zion out with his crusaders, fact remains that I still will always question his competents as a leader.
I think Niobe summed it up best: "Well, he's no Morpheus." He's powerful as hell, figured out how to achieve enlightenment by himself, great idealism, all that. But he's also hardly experienced the Matrix at all as a redpill, is 18 years old, and acts more as a uniting figurehead than anything else.
Is he going to save humanity? Not a chance, by a mile. But he works as a leader of sorts, and right now we take what we can get. When the other choices are Roland, Merv, or the myriad of possessed human mouthpieces the Machines call liasons we can get pretty desperate.

I think that part sums it up quite well. The Kid is a figurehead for people who believe a similar set of ideals and goals. Its evident in the way he acts. His actions are casual and when he is trying to complete a task he acts like more of a fighter and less of a general or captain calling the shots. I'm not saying the he doesn't have a level of authority over others in the faction. He is making decisions and organizing the way the faction moves towards its goals but I think there's obvious differences in the way The Kid does this compared to say, The Merovingian or Agent Pace. The Kid doesn't exert his authority of his subordinates, but rather influences the way they act. His people aren't tools for him to use, they are his friends which choose to help him based upon a shared belief.

Croesis

What your saying is that Popper uses transformational leadership whilst the Merovingian/Pace use transactional leadership. Both types have their good and bad points, although the most effective in the case of results is the transactional style.

Steelle

Croesus wrote:

What your saying is that Popper uses transformational leadership whilst the Merovingian/Pace use transactional leadership. Both types have their good and bad points, although the most effective in the case of results is the transactional style.

Maybe. I think it depends. I wouldn't say that one produces better results than the other 100% of the time. Different people respond to different motivations. Success is determined by more than leadership. The complexity of the task, resources at your disposal etc. have an influence too, as does leadership.

Either way, I'm not trying to say one leadership style is better than another. Rather I was merely commenting on the type of leader he is.

**SEPET**

Roukan wrote:

He's a child.

To all that call Micheal a "child".... well without that child, you'll not be here , without that child the hammer crashed on the gate of zion, Cause that child got more ball than anyone of who call him "child", cause he face the sentinels in the reality flesh vs steel, heart vs cold logic, he believe, and let Neo save all us, Man Machine exile......

If this mean be a child.... Im proud to follow a child leader, cause he showed to all to be brave, he is more adult than many of those who call him child.

I follow a pure heart, cause is not the age that make a man a man, is the action that make him a big man.

**Tytanya_MxO**

The 'Michael Popper' is really a sim cleverly designed to collate the very worse in humanity then occupy it by running around in circles, going nowhere and doing nothing other than make the Machines look righteous.

Another brilliant piece of Machine manipulation!

**SEPET** · 10/18/2007 11:24:25

yes machine are excellent in human manipulation, and i think you are one of the most masterpieces.....

**Illyria22**

Tytanya is Merv, not Machine.

Illyria

**SEPET**

with her kind of thinking, i think your side have to recruit her immediately

Hurry don't let other get her away!