If what Pack-Hunter says is true - then that pretty much means the ppl working on this game have to pretty much reverse engineer the game from the ground up. Which I find absolutely ridiculous on Sony's part. Because having to reverse engineer something this sofisticated is extreemly hard for anyone.
What needs to be done and demanded on the ppl working on this title's part is to get the source code that Monolith developed the game with. As well as demanding the software needed to animate and add new content. Come on guys - fight for your rights! How can you be expected to reverse engineer something like this? Go to Monolith and get that source code and the stuff needed.
Basicly what else that is saying is Sony has pretty much already abandoned what they do with this game. There is only a small handfull of ppl working on it - reverse engineering it, and those ppl are being called away to work on other titles. Matrix is dead as far ans Sony is concerned. And if they are siffoning the player's fees and just pumping it into anouther game. Isn't that sort of illeagal somehow? Ppl who pay the monthly fee and agree to play by signing the ULA are expecting that their money is going towards the game they are playing. Not being sucked off and put into a different platform somewhere else. We pay the fee to play the game we paid for - not to have it put into development of a different title. I think we might have a case here for a lawsuit if we really decided to persue it.
Players use what is it ... FRAPs? To make their cinematics. It is actually cheap software, to buy a licences version is only $37, otherwise it is a shareware. All it takes is some players to be the actors, and someone who is talented at putting together the movie and shooting it. Just look on Youtube w/ppl's home made movies. Think - almost real life terms and filming. If you asked players if they would like to participate in helping to make a new ingame cinematic, I am sure you would find that most everyone would be happy to do so. it just takes a little imagination, creativity,and some filmography.
Otherwise - get someone who knows how to animate with Flash a little better and has a bit more sense of color in their artwork. I know some ppl like it the way it is, and some ppl don't. I'm one of those who doesn't care for it. Time for anouther artist to take a shot at the cinematics. Maybe as a PT, collaberative thing. See what the players like as far as styles goes, by trying out some new styles. Maybe almost like the Matrix comics that WB has. I would love to do make the cinematics and animate them - my fees would be a lot cheaper than most. I'd do it mainly for the love of Matrix. But - whatever. Continue on the way it is and this game might end up being completely thown in the toilet. I can only hope that the monthly fees will be cancled and we can still play. Kinda like how Guild Wars has it set up - purchase the game disk and then no fee playtime.
SolidRevolver wrote:I love the 2D cinematics, especially how they are now, they have a very strong graphic novel theme. Another reason we may not have the in-game engine cinematics is because they were motion capture and would require an animator. Walrus said the reason is because none of them know how to work the tool to make the old cinematics.
I love the 2D cinematics, especially how they are now, they have a very strong graphic novel theme. Another reason we may not have the in-game engine cinematics is because they were motion capture and would require an animator.
Roukan wrote:SolidRevolver wrote:I love the 2D cinematics, especially how they are now, they have a very strong graphic novel theme. Another reason we may not have the in-game engine cinematics is because they were motion capture and would require an animator. Walrus said the reason is because none of them know how to work the tool to make the old cinematics. Eh, no, that wasn't really right. It's because they're extremely time-intensive. Making the old in-game ones became a full-time job for our old lead level designer, at least one animator, and I think maybe half a 3D/texture artist.
Making the old in-game ones became a full-time job for our old lead level designer, at least one animator, and I think maybe half a 3D/texture artist.
Animatrix was done in various different styles by different directors and animation houses, the Bros. wanted to feature the same story - only told by different ppl, and emphisise on the art qualities of many different Japanese directors. Like the guys who made Akira and Aeon Flux. I LOVE how Animatrix was done. I think that would look nice and be ok as a collaberative effort between fans who would lend their art skills to making the cinematics and those whom are already on the team. Maybe each chapter features a popular artist in their style - like Animatrix. There would be a lot of artist fans here who would like to participate in having their piece of the story shown to all. And be able to display their artwork version of the story en-mass
This game is quickly loosing lots on long time players/subscribers. Something needs to be done soon or there won't be anyone left.
There has been a serious lack of Live Events lately and that alone has led to the abandonment. I figured it was because everyone is really busy working on updates and fixing material and problem solving the issues with Vista. But - throw us a bone or 2 here guys! Maybe some sub-plots, or exercises for the players. Maybe like that one bit where Gray had ppl clean up some gang members for the rings and the group with the most rings got a prize, each faction leader can do it for their faction - Zion, Mechs, and Mervs. Small stuff like that entices ppl to keep playing and gives the impression that MxO is still being paid attenion to. Anything - just more LE interaction to keep ppl at least passified.
This game is quickly loosing lots on long time players/subscribers. Something needs to be done soon or there won't be anyone left. There has been a serious lack of Live Events lately and that alone has led to the abandonment. I figured it was because everyone is really busy working on updates and fixing material and problem solving the issues with Vista. But - throw us a bone or 2 here guys! Maybe some sub-plots, or exercises for the players. Maybe like that one bit where Gray had ppl clean up some gang members for the rings and the group with the most rings got a prize, each faction leader can do it for their faction - Zion, Mechs, and Mervs. Small stuff like that entices ppl to keep playing and gives the impression that MxO is still being paid attenion to. Anything - just more LE interaction to keep ppl at least passified.
While we have you here Rarebit, what do you think of linking some newspaper boxes to player-made papers? I have some idea about the technical requirement here but I'm curious as to the feasibility.
GypsyJuggler wrote:While we have you here Rarebit, what do you think of linking some newspaper boxes to player-made papers? I have some idea about the technical requirement here but I'm curious as to the feasibility. It will be very easy, all the newspapers are doing is linking you off to a website where you can view it. So, if you knew the address, you could view it on your browser now, same with the World Events and Scanline Reciever.
SolidRevolver wrote:GypsyJuggler wrote:While we have you here Rarebit, what do you think of linking some newspaper boxes to player-made papers? I have some idea about the technical requirement here but I'm curious as to the feasibility. It will be very easy, all the newspapers are doing is linking you off to a website where you can view it. So, if you knew the address, you could view it on your browser now, same with the World Events and Scanline Reciever.Note the bold text. My question was more related to wether they'd be willing or allowed to link to a site they weren't in direct control or ownership of. I remember a while ago there was caution about linking to sites because of the potential for exploitation or corruption.
>_< Ignore my bad reading.
If the 'player paper' is in control of the DEVs, I dont see why it cant be used. They can check it over and will be in control of the address so no changing can occur or anything. They probably wont though, when in comes down to it, no one understands the story of the Matrix better than the writers so they will want to be incharge of the main one, Player made ones will have to make do with links from the forum....
Then again I'm not a Dev, so yet again ignore me
