The Other Side of the Looking Glass - Friday, March 3, 2006

**CPT_Starschwar**

Hey, can you make the Awakening glasses tradable too? Please!

TehTiny

So let me get this straight. People are actually reading what has been posted before they reply? Only 3 or 4 posts out of 5 pages dont say exactly the same thing. "*CENSORED* DONT MAKE BETA CLOTHES TRADABLE OMG WHY DID YOU CHANGE COMBAT IT DIDNT SUCK." Stop saying the same things over and over. This is a chronic problem on these forums and it makes them less enjoyable to read for everyone. So your going to say you have a right to an opinion. Your completely and totally right. But get your own opinion instead of echoing somebody elses.

**Tytanya_MxO**

DragnMastyr wrote:

And guess what? That's EXACTLY what CR 2.0 is here to fix. Hackers are no longer the uber-awesome class, stats are MUCH more important than clothes, lower-levels actually stand a chance, and combat is no longer multi-on-one and much MUCH more fluid. So *CENSORED* and pay attention.

What was asked for was a fix to the current system, not a new system, hundreds of threads suggested very clearly how it was possible. Clothes remain as important as ever and in fact for pvp will be more important...they have said there will be more variety of buffs but that was just as easy with the current system and nothing to do with cr2. It was asked for multi on one IL to be fixed, it was instead thrown away. I have NEVER seen a complaint that a lower level saw it a problem that those above them were more effective.

The promise of the original game was multi one one IL as a unique feature - its gone, the promise was a MMO where you would not have to specialise in a class multi LO's would make you totally versatile - thats been removed.

While I respect those that prefer the new system and confess it has many laudable features, it remains only reasonable that suitable consideration is given to those who will lose key features they really like here. And on the hacker front I would just as soon it were removed in total tbh. More importantly in an honest attempt to 'sell' CR2 to the many doubters the UI needs to be tackled.

PlatnmPlatypus

no make them tradeable i need my beat clothes... *loves them soo much and hatesself for loosing them*

Neville

DragnMastyr wrote:

So *CENSORED* and pay attention.

LOL. I love this last-ditch argument. Nobody's been buying the BS so far and now it's time to drag out the snake-oil pitch. "CR 2.0 will fix everything! Meet girls! Make money fast! Grow new hair!"

Yeah, whatever.

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**Frink**

Well we aren't going to have an Anniversary Either, because aren't those supposed to be set on the Exact date every year?

**cloudwolf**

You know you CR2.0 haters can quit anytime right? Cos it aint going nowhere, whats done is done, live with it or be quiet.

dathen

EndlessVoid wrote:
I never got my beta jacket. I've got the rest of the stuff.
Finally, I'll be able to complete the outfit.
... Besides, beta clothing was ALWAYS eventually going to be tradeable.
It's not like this is a new and sudden development.

- Void

If I remember correctly, the beta clothes and beta jacket were kind of two sperate rewards. Clothes were given to any beta player... The jacket was given to beta players that helped in fixing bugs and such...

As for tradeable beta clothes, huge mistake in my opinion. Beta clothes were a thank you to beta testers, whom helped bring this game to retail for free. By making them tradeable you are taking that honor away from us. Don't alienate your veteran players anymore than you have to.

A quick fix would be making beta clothes tradeable to characters within the same account.

Neville

cloudwol wrote:
You know you CR2.0 haters can quit anytime right? Cos it aint going nowhere, whats done is done, live with it or be quiet.

Would the person holding a gun to cloudwol's head and forcing him/her/it to read dissenting opinions please cease and desist? Thank you.

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Dodge_THIS · 03/04/2006 17:15:12

dathen wrote:

If I remember correctly, the beta clothes and beta jacket were kind of two sperate rewards. Clothes were given to any beta player... The jacket was given to beta players that helped in fixing bugs and such...

Yes, that is generally correct, although as far as I know, jackets were only given to the VIP testers (which were given access to login during "admin only" times). *cough*

dathen wrote:
As for tradeable beta clothes, huge mistake in my opinion. Beta clothes were a thank you to beta testers, whom helped bring this game to retail for free. By making them tradeable you are taking that honor away from us. Don't alienate your veteran players anymore than you have to.

A quick fix would be making beta clothes tradeable to characters within the same account.

It was said in the beginning that beta clothes would eventually be tradable. I'm proud to have all of them (including the jacket), but guess what -- I haven't worn them in MONTHS (except the glasses, which I always wear). I seriously doubt anyone else has, either. Really, when is the last time any of us beta testers actually 'went out in public' with our gear? Unless there is some live event where beta clothing is required, I doubt seriously that allowing the beta stuff to be traded will affect anyone in any way. (although, a visit to the white room before that happens would totally rock!)

Message Edited by digitize on 03-04-200608:15 PM

**DarkRevenantW** · 03/04/2006 17:22:58

A couple things that I have to say, some have already been said but each voice must speak up and be heard....

Cool! Baseball hats! :smileyhappy:
What!? I thought Beta clothing wasn't made tradeable because people requested that before. For the clothes to stay in the hands of the people that earned them. :smileymad:
What about the beta clothing that had disappeared from some peoples inventories due to them breaking down? One day during a duel my beta pants disappeared. :smileyindifferent:

Message Edited by Woreku on 03-04-200605:22 PM

xDarkDragoNx

Yeah good to hear we are finally going to get our cap *no buffs though:smileymad:*

I do not have Beta Cloths because I did not transfere my account, but I still think it is a bad idea to make them tradable. Devs u need to change this so the Beta cloths stay in the inventories of those that earned them.

**Frink**

I think the devs should do the following to give Beta players honor and giving them Veteran rights...

Do not allow Beta clothing traded between Beta and Non-Beta players
Reimburse the Beta clothing which was Lost due to failures on the Tech. Devs part, such as the Glasses in my case.
Put buffs on the Beta clothings, (at least a good amount of percent of Resistance or make the clothing add up to a great item such as a drop in which you get or the Assassin's mask)

I have faith that the Dev's are reading our concerns and I hope they reward Beta -> Present players who spent about 1 1/2 years with MxO or more. Just for some appreciation of Our commitment.

Hidari

I had the full beta gear... even the jacket. But in a crash, my beta pants went missing.

I'm just super thankful I can get my pants back. But if the devs can make it tradeable within beta players only, this would be better.

SilentW

Also /sign ing that idea about tradable beta clothing. My beta clothing was given to me because I was in the beta. I want to be able to wear somerthing that a lot of people cannot, like my awakening jacket. It makes people ask, and it gives respect. I want the respect that a beta player deserves, and nobody else but us beta players should have that kind of ability.