The Other Side of the Looking Glass - Friday, March 3, 2006

Faithlessness

digitize wrote:

Once the game was released, the retail key had to be input.

*cough* I didn't have to input my retail key until 1 month after the pre-order period started. :smileyvery-happy:

(so, yes, that worked like 2 months for free, including the retail key)

Chuui

Actually, preorders got access a special preorder key that gave them access to the beta test.. so as long as they used their preorder key, they got beta clothes. Once the game was released, the retail key had to be input.

They got "in" to beta, but they didn't actually have to play in beta to get the beta clothes. It's a big difference. You aren't a beta player if you didn't actually *play* during beta, invite or not. Thus, it's a pre-order bonus not a beta bonus. If you played in beta and didn't pre-order, you didn't get the beta clothes, so you can't honestly say that those clothes indicate who was and wasn't in beta. All they indicate is who pre-ordered and who didn't.

**Wreck**

I've tried out the turorial on EP server, it doesn't work well...

It still wanted me to calibrate the 4 moves using the dropdown NOT using them from the hotbar, I had to use skip tutor there, If they manage to fix that... it's ready....

However, I know a lot of people who wanna keep the dropdown, because their used to it, everybody likes the 2 hotbars though...

xDarkDragoNx

Chuui wrote:
Actually, preorders got access a special preorder key that gave them access to the beta test.. so as long as they used their preorder key, they got beta clothes. Once the game was released, the retail key had to be input.

They got "in" to beta, but they didn't actually have to play in beta to get the beta clothes. It's a big difference. You aren't a beta player if you didn't actually *play* during beta, invite or not. Thus, it's a pre-order bonus not a beta bonus. If you played in beta and didn't pre-order, you didn't get the beta clothes, so you can't honestly say that those clothes indicate who was and wasn't in beta. All they indicate is who pre-ordered and who didn't.

Ok this does not make any since. ha ha ok I do not have beta cloths but I have HJ-Beta.

Dodge_THIS · 03/08/2006 15:39:51

Faithlessness wrote:

*cough* I didn't have to input my retail key until 1 month after the pre-order period started. :smileyvery-happy:
(so, yes, that worked like 2 months for free, including the retail key)

I never said the retail key had to be entered immediately when the game went live.. My point is that people who preordered got TWO keys, a preorder key and a retail key. As long as they created an account with the preorder key (presumably before the game went live), and then added a retail key later, they got the beta clothes. Someone with a better memory, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about that.

Anyway, in response to Chuui, while someone cannot properly call themselves a 'beta tester' if they didn't take part in the beta test, part of the bonus for preordering the game was ACCESS to the beta test. Whether or not they used their access is irrelevent. So while you're right that someone who never played beta shouldn't be considered a beta tester, as far as Monolith was concerned, they were, because they had access to it. Don't ask me to explain the logic, I'm just stating what happened... SMILEY

Message Edited by digitize on 03-08-200606:39 PM

Tstrike · 03/08/2006 19:24:18

CR 2.0 should not be thrown out of the Window completely.

Here is what I hope CR2.0 does (I have been on QA awhile but I have not fully seen things done):

-- Balance the game to a more Matrix oriented theme
-- Assassins and Knife Thrower should not be instant win buttons; CR2.0 seems to quell this abuse :manmad:
-- Hackers now have to work a bit harder (I am a hacker)
-- Give lower levels a chance to get more involved in PvP (If a 50 griefs, then a group of say 29 - 38s should be able to take him/her out):smileyvery-happy:
-- Toughen up the NPCs (greater risk, greater reward)
-- Recomplex the combat mechanics while keeping things on a realistic par :smileyhappy:

Bottom Line: It appears CR2.0 will be more skillz based (i.e. I need to use this ability at this time) versus win button based (i.e. I outroll you)

The bold bullet will bring more folks to the game and bring the n00b feeding frenzy down a bit.

Message Edited by Tstrike on 03-08-200607:24 PM

**darkhaze** · 03/08/2006 21:49:52

tstrike wrote: Bottom Line: It appears CR2.0 will be more skillz based (i.e. I need to use this ability at this time) versus win button based (i.e. I outroll you)

yeah...skillz...duelist, freefire, click win...no more of that pesky interlock. and how do you know what abilitys to use at what time..theres nothing to help you with that. you jsut guess..they took all the skill out of this game and made it completly random. and please tell me what win buttons your talkin about..cuz either i dont have them or you just suck.

Message Edited by darkhaze on 03-08-200609:49 PM

Tstrike

Ummm thats why you wear dodged ranged or ballistic resistance clothing, dunce?

And why the insults guy, we are have a nice conversation about the combat system.

I left out one other thing.... get combat over quickly so that we can move on the next kill.

1045 CQ = suck..... Dont I have some of yours?

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To the Devs, I like combat revision 2.0.... More Matrix like.... keep tweaking it..

Dodge_THIS

Tstrike wrote:

To the Devs, I like combat revision 2.0.... More Matrix like.... keep tweaking it..

Ditto. CR2.0 = good stuff!

**darkhaze**

so wut, i have a billion gazillion cq. so there, lol. and alot of them are yours. thankx.

theres still the same win buttons as you put it with cr2. theres always gonna be win buttons. if your better than the other guy then you have a win button. plain and simple. sounds like you think cr2 makes people who are good suck and people who suck good. *CENSORED* kind of game is that. i dun like cr2 at all and im not meaning to sound hostile so i apoligize for that. but it took me a year to get good at the current system and now i have to start over. if i was a gamer genius then maybe i wouldnt care but im not. these people are supposed to be proffesionals. if they couldnt do it right the first time then what makes anybody think it will be right this time. maybe time will restore my faith..hopefully. but for now if the devs are god then im going to hell.

Ticom · 03/13/2006 21:27:32

I was in both beta and preorder, but failed to transfer my account in time, kinda bums me out that Ive lost my beta jump from preorder and to find out there was even Beta clothes lol.. Its like a slap in the face really.. but its all down to SOE's way of dealing with things, its not fair that its gonna be tradeable, take a look at swg, I myself had an prenge precu jedi, which is now useless cause any schmuck who just buys the game can have something I worked over a year for obtaining...

-Edit Btw I only played beta and the 3 free days of preorder and never purchased the game, cause I was still stuck on swg, and finally purchased only to not have my beta/preorder account.. kthx SMILEY

may explain my register date

Message Edited by Ticom on 03-13-200609:27 PM