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Sosuke1 wrote:

Sry Fenshire but your post is pretty worthless. Do your homework before posting!

Sorry, pal.  But before you start calling my post worthless and saying I should do my homework, maybe you should try actually understanding my post first.

I´ll help you out:
Beta Hyperjump has nothing to do with Beta testing at all.

Actually, it does.  Everyone who participated in Beta, as well as the pre-order (who, guess what?  Got to play beta as well), got Beta Hyperjump.

One year MxO for free? Well sure! We played the retail version and named it beta. LOL thats a sure sign you shouldnt be able to wear the clothes.

As I stated very clearly in my post, I was referring to the year of beta that occured BEFORE retail.

Who do you think hosted all the good MxO pages? dojo, archive, rumbaar ? Beta players! And although not every beta player has his own page, the most of them inpinged on the hosters somehow: running missions or maybe just chatting at mara c...

Did I discredit beta players that have become outstanding members of the community?  No, I did not.  However, those players have not done those things expecting anything in return.  Nor, do you see them coming to these forums bragging about their accomplishments.  However, you see plenty of people who were in Beta who complain and whine that the makers of this game do nothing to respect the fact that they were in Beta, or what they have done is not good enough.  The thing I'm saying, there are some truly outstanding members of the Beta community that have made real contributions to this community, then there are the Beta players that believe their status as a Beta player automatically  means that they deserve respect, admiration, and praise for devoting their precious time to a game in it's infant stages.

To that, I say horsecockle.

What about those of us that have been playing Live since day one and have not terminated our service, or taken a break, and continued to provide feedback to this game, creating Player Driven Events, writing stories, and just trying to make this community a better place for all those people who are just looking for something to do?  We don't look for rewards from the MxO team for the efforts that we put into this game, so how do you think it makes us feel when we constantly see these Beta people whining about how their rewards aren't good enough.

I dont understand why you want the clothes? NO buffs, they dont look this good!
The only reason I see is that you just want to take them from us and thats an unbelievable bad  motivation.

For the THIRD time in this thread, I don't want the clothes!  All I want are the female beta glasses for my alt because they're cool and they're black.  I could care less about stepping on the sacred ground of Beta.  But even still, WE, the non-Beta players, are not taking these items AWAY from you.  YOU, the Beta Players, are GIVING them to us.  It's in your hands, ultimately, whether or not non-Beta people get these articles of clothing.

We dont deserve more respect than any other paying member of this game, just because we were beta players.
We should get a little honor for helping this game and/or the community. This little present doesnt make us any stronger, no buffs, its just a little something that reminds us of beta and gives a little community feeling.

I don't disagree with that, but from my point of view, you guys have gotten the honor you deserved for your time in Beta.  You got to play the game before anyone else, you got Hyperjump Beta, you got a nifty outfit, and you got a real kick *CENSORED* closing event (which by the way, many people say was probably the best event Monolith ever put on).  However, they didn't announce the Beta clothes until after the game launched.  And when they announced them, they said very clearly that the clothes would be exclusive for the first few months of the game, then they would become tradeable.  I know everyone is terrified that noobs are going to join the game and wear Beta clothes and say that they were in Beta...  but why would anyone do that?  To get Beta 'status'?  Believe me when I say, from a non-Beta person's point of view, that 'status' you want to hold on to so bad...  to the rest of us, we don't care about it.

All I want are black female glasses.  I don't care if they're Beta, Alpha, Omega, or Centauri.  If making Beta items tradeable is the only way I'll get black glasses for my alt, then I'm going to support this move.

sry for this lyricism, but i feel like you want to run down MxO´s history and thereby mine as well.

I want to run down MxO's history?  Pal, I am a PART of MxO's history!  Why would I want to run it down?  Why would I want to **bleep** on a game that I've spent a good year playing?  Since day one of Live, I have been in this game.  I have never taken a break from it (and when I say break, I mean leave the game for an extended period of time.  Contrary to popular belief, I do eat and sleep and work ).  I helped to create PDEs, I have written many stories for others to enjoy, I've been active in getting involved in other players' stories and RPs, I've won events, I've lost events, I've created a long standing and well-respected faction, I've been active on the Test Server trying to help get it ironed out for Live release, and most importantly, I have always been a positive voice towards this game.  You will never find a post of mine that has bashed SOE or Monolith, or any of the choices they've made.  I've accepted their choices and thought about what I could do with those choices to help make this community a better place.

The question is...  can you say the same?

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