[9.2.4] "The ersatz Agent Murphey" - Syntax - 2/5/08

**Shinryu**

Excellent work, Ouranos. And to think, Deus is one of my favourite clubs... I know I've seen that sign before too. *chuckles*

The_Commissioner

Good work, 0uranos and those who also participated in this investigation.

_Luca

**mantra777**

Events like these would be so much better with help of "droppable mini items." Where after finding the location, You can actually grab say a Suitcase prop items in game. =)

Gratz Ouranos

**Omega0**

This was a really cool idea for an event. I hope there can be a Zion event similar to this sometime. Congratulations to Ouranos.

In case any of you were curious...

1010100111000111010010010111001 (binary) = 1424204985 (decimal)

I noticed a few people referring to them as "binary codes," which seems kind of silly to me. When someone says "1424204985," you don't refer to that as a "decimal code," do you? They're just numbers.

"There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't."

Croesis

No, but a series of just 0's and 1's puts you almost straight away into the mind that it's Binary. Only after it didn't make sense did many of us turn to concentrate on the words. 0uranos just had the vision to see the location from the rambling of 'Agent' Murphey and the binary was the confirmation (it was the backing of the gold Code X Change sign) It represented Binary even though it didn't actually turn out to be anything special.

**Omega0**

I know that. My only point is that it makes more sense to call them "binary numbers" instead of "binary codes." Not that it really matters, it's just kind of a pet peeve of mine.

**GypsyJuggler**

Well done. I was busy being distracted by things that weren't there.

**ZaneZavin**

(I just wish it hadn't been a machine event, My character isn't willing to help the machines. Maybe in future things like this, there can be a way for me to participate without breaking character. Perhaps multiple org drop boxes or something like that. Anyhow, puzzle events are good. Good job to everyone.)

**reminis**

I should really read the forums for these live events more. Saw that sign last night at 11pm central thought hmm that looks like code. Then thought hrmm its prob a item on the ground..dee dee dee

**Procurator**

Omega0 wrote:

I know that. My only point is that it makes more sense to call them "binary numbers" instead of "binary codes." Not that it really matters, it's just kind of a pet peeve of mine.

They're called codes because, once separated into bytes, they usually represent ASCII characters. A byte is just a value, a number, but it's essentially a coded form of ASCII in these cases.

**Omega0**

Procurator wrote:

Omega0 wrote:
I know that. My only point is that it makes more sense to call them "binary numbers" instead of "binary codes." Not that it really matters, it's just kind of a pet peeve of mine.
They're called codes because, once separated into bytes, they usually represent ASCII characters. A byte is just a value, a number, but it's essentially a coded form of ASCII in these cases.

It's not very accurate to say that. What a binary number represents is entirely dependent on the context (and they are not always separated into bytes). They can be used to represent many different things, including integers, floating points, addresses, boolean values, ASCII characters, or any other information that a computer might need. (I've learned about this stuff in college.) In this context, they don't represent anything, they're just clues. I think that people were calling them codes because they don't realize that binary is just another way to represent a number (before I became an electrical engineer, I didn't realize that either).

**mantra777**

Omega0 wrote:

Procurator wrote:
Omega0 wrote:
I know that. My only point is that it makes more sense to call them "binary numbers" instead of "binary codes." Not that it really matters, it's just kind of a pet peeve of mine.
They're called codes because, once separated into bytes, they usually represent ASCII characters. A byte is just a value, a number, but it's essentially a coded form of ASCII in these cases.

It's not very accurate to say that. What a binary number represents is entirely dependent on the context (and they are not always separated into bytes). They can be used to represent many different things, including integers, floating points, addresses, boolean values, ASCII characters, or any other information that a computer might need. (I've learned about this stuff in college.) In this context, they don't represent anything, they're just clues. I think that people were calling them codes because they don't realize that binary is just another way to represent a number (before I became an electrical engineer, I didn't realize that either).

Since you two are arguing (sort of)... here's the Definitions of Binary Code and Binary number.

Chainer

So one tracked... Perhaps Pace can enlighten us to the reason these are so damned important?

**Agent_Pace**

Updated with compiled data scans of the Murphey incident.

Efficientemente,

Agent Pace
System Liaison

**Procurator**

Omega0 wrote:

It's not very accurate to say that. What a binary number represents is entirely dependent on the context (and they are not always separated into bytes). They can be used to represent many different things, including integers, floating points, addresses, boolean values, ASCII characters, or any other information that a computer might need. (I've learned about this stuff in college.) In this context, they don't represent anything, they're just clues. I think that people were calling them codes because they don't realize that binary is just another way to represent a number (before I became an electrical engineer, I didn't realize that either).

I know it's dependent on the context, which was why I said 'once separated into bytes' and 'usually represent ASCII characters'. And whenever binary comes up around here it's invariably a sequence of ASCII characters. Anywhere else they could be numbers or codes with any meaning possible, but here they're always codes, so we might as well call them that.