How low can you get? I mean....murdering blue pills....the ones that don't put up a challenge and have no idea that the rules of the Matrix can be bent. A coward and a danger to everything. I fear Zionites are driving themselves mad in their endless and pointless search for their beloved 'One' and are unfortunately bringing down the Matrix with them out of idiocy and carelessness.If you defend, and even worse, condone the murdering of bluepills, what does that say about your regard for the Matrix? Well if you ask me, not a lot, in fact it puts you on about a level playing field with the Intruder, only you don't have anywhere near the power, or a bunch of raving loonies begging to help you and babble away information regardless of the fact that they don't actually know what your purpose is.Zion needs to sit down and shut up, and get some sense. Think before you speak, and come to terms with the fact that your saviour is DEAD, just like we have come to terms with the fact that because of your idiocy, we are stuck in the Real and eating s**t for breakfast each morning.
I don't know the guy, but that's one *CENSORED* good soldier. Willing to take his own life to protect whatever information was on his ship, and take out some of those masked bastards with him. I salute you, Cinquez and crew. Hopefully, with people with your kind of dedication on our side, we can kill every last one of those Cypherite bastards once and for all.Gotta save Tasha for last, though.
I don't know the guy, but that's one *CENSORED* good soldier. Willing to take his own life to protect whatever information was on his ship, and take out some of those masked bastards with him. I salute you, Cinquez and crew. Hopefully, with people with your kind of dedication on our side, we can kill every last one of those Cypherite bastards once and for all.
Gotta save Tasha for last, though.
There is no shortage of candidates for the mass grave.
"Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism - how passionately I hate them!"
Methinks that some screenshots of the Merv skirmish are missing. >_>
Zion needs to sit down and shut up, and get some sense. Think before you speak, and come to terms with the fact that your saviour is DEAD, just like we have come to terms with the fact that because of your idiocy, we are stuck in the Real and eating s**t for breakfast each morning.
AlphaCoder wrote:Zion needs to sit down and shut up, and get some sense. Think before you speak, and come to terms with the fact that your saviour is DEAD, just like we have come to terms with the fact that because of your idiocy, we are stuck in the Real and eating s**t for breakfast each morning.It is YOUR GODDAMN CHOICE that you are in the real eating *CENSORED* for breakfeast each morning. Either SHUT UP and face it or kill yourself (so called "Reinsertion" by the Cyphs and Mechs).It is your own idiocy that you are where you are. If you don't do anything by yourself you will always eat *CENSORED* for breakfeast. Only until you accept that and come to terms with it, you'll eventually realize that breakfeast may not be as bad as you claim it to be, after all.Like you said, think before you speak, I hate those goddamn exaggerations and generalisations.And on a sidenote: Zion, the Council and it's military leaders do not seek Neo after all. They have much worse to face. It is the operatives, especially those whom we call E Pluribus Neo, that are as you claim.The town of (New) Zion has other priorities, they lie in the people they have and not the ones they don't have.- GG
GoDGiVeR wrote:AlphaCoder wrote:Zion needs to sit down and shut up, and get some sense. Think before you speak, and come to terms with the fact that your saviour is DEAD, just like we have come to terms with the fact that because of your idiocy, we are stuck in the Real and eating s**t for breakfast each morning.It is YOUR GODDAMN CHOICE that you are in the real eating *CENSORED* for breakfeast each morning. Either SHUT UP and face it or kill yourself (so called "Reinsertion" by the Cyphs and Mechs).It is your own idiocy that you are where you are. If you don't do anything by yourself you will always eat *CENSORED* for breakfeast. Only until you accept that and come to terms with it, you'll eventually realize that breakfeast may not be as bad as you claim it to be, after all.Like you said, think before you speak, I hate those goddamn exaggerations and generalisations.And on a sidenote: Zion, the Council and it's military leaders do not seek Neo after all. They have much worse to face. It is the operatives, especially those whom we call E Pluribus Neo, that are as you claim.The town of (New) Zion has other priorities, they lie in the people they have and not the ones they don't have.- GGSo the fact that I simply noticed something was wrong and one of your fools latched on to that and approached me about it has nothing to do with the fact that I am in the Real? The way you butter up being "free" could make anyone take the red pill, then they're stuck, just like the rest of us poor s*ds, all because you lot can't keep yourselves contained when you see someone who is starting to see through the wonderful world they live in.Yes the town of New Zion....the last hope of humanity, or the perfect place to cleanse the gene pool. The only reason your council and New Zion need to worry about "the people they have" is once again, because of your own stupidity and insolence, and total lack of any decent organisation. Otherwise the truce would still be intact and you wouldn't have so much to worry about. You make me laugh each time you pass off your mistakes to others and, once again, turn a blind eye to your own incompetance.(( I hope you aren' taking any of this to heart, t'is all RP <3 ))
So the fact that I simply noticed something was wrong and one of your fools latched on to that and approached me about it has nothing to do with the fact that I am in the Real? The way you butter up being "free" could make anyone take the red pill, then they're stuck, just like the rest of us poor s*ds, all because you lot can't keep yourselves contained when you see someone who is starting to see through the wonderful world they live in.
Sorry but reading these pieces of ignorant bull *poop* from the people that can't deal with their own actions is getting old. Lets go back to "Blue Pill Freeing 101" shall we.
Zion/EPN go out and looks for the 1% that have problems with the system. Some can deal with it and cope for awhile but eventually they all hit that stage where nothing makes sense and if they are not removed by Zion they self substantiate and possibly cause others to question or even worse hurting others. So while I'm sure you own bias is going to just ignore all this, even when it comes from the guy that built your dream world, Zion freeing people is a needed part of the system and without it those 99 dreamers you want to keep all snug in their beds are never going to get that perfect sleep.
As for buttering it all up, I can't say I was there for your awakening or knew how it all went down. In some causes I can understand why people went as they did such as with Haigen, but every awakening I have seen done by a Zionite/Neonite is cliche at best and follows almost word for word what Morpheus told Neo. Recruiters/awakeners/whatever you want to call them make it perfectly clear that this isn't some ride at Disney, you won't be able to turn back, and that it is a hard and almost unbearable truth. Which is all Zion or EPN have ever offered. That redpill wasn't handed out promising a 4 star hotel to stay in once its all over, or a new wonderful life. Just the truth. If yours didn't go according to plan sorry you got dealt this hand but you had it coming from the moment you felt the splinter but you always had the option to play it or fold.
AlphaCoder wrote:So the fact that I simply noticed something was wrong and one of your fools latched on to that and approached me about it has nothing to do with the fact that I am in the Real? The way you butter up being "free" could make anyone take the red pill, then they're stuck, just like the rest of us poor s*ds, all because you lot can't keep yourselves contained when you see someone who is starting to see through the wonderful world they live in.As for buttering it all up, I can't say I was there for your awakening or knew how it all went down. In some causes I can understand why people went as they did such as with Haigen, but every awakening I have seen done by a Zionite/Neonite is cliche at best and follows almost word for word what Morpheus told Neo. Recruiters/awakeners/whatever you want to call them make it perfectly clear that this isn't some ride at Disney, you won't be able to turn back, and that it is a hard and almost unbearable truth. Which is all Zion or EPN have ever offered. That redpill wasn't handed out promising a 4 star hotel to stay in once its all over, or a new wonderful life. Just the truth. If yours didn't go according to plan sorry you got dealt this hand but you had it coming from the moment you felt the splinter but you always had the option to play it or fold.
I tried... I really did...I read up about the operation and heard about the deaths of the Cypherite boarding crew and their target... and.... I just can't seem to care...The way I see it, if he did indeed kill bluepills because they didn't want to follow his agenda then a murderer is dead... if not then he was simply a Zion soldier who killed himself by his own hands just to take out a few Cypherites.I can't see any negative to all this... so it's just business as usual...GamiSB wrote:Zion/EPN go out and looks for the 1% that have problems with the system. Some can deal with it and cope for awhile but eventually they all hit that stage where nothing makes sense and if they are not removed by Zion they self substantiate and possibly cause others to question or even worse hurting others. So while I'm sure you own bias is going to just ignore all this, even when it comes from the guy that built your dream world, Zion freeing people is a needed part of the system and without it those 99 dreamers you want to keep all snug in their beds are never going to get that perfect sleep.Lol! You really believe that you are required by the system to wake up the 1% Funniest thing I've heard all day... What do you think Machinists are for? The situation you pointed out is our main duty because we are better at dealing with Humankind than Machine programs. Don't think because of your history that you are still required to do that job, because that's exactly what you job is... history. Machinists can address any issues bluepills may have and if someone is dangerous enough to destabilise the simulation for others and his/herself or just cannot accept the simulation at all then we can see to it that they are freed from the simulation as necessary. Just because someone questions something about the simulation doesn't mean that they require or want waking. A splinter of the mind can be removed, the damage caused by removing them from their world is much worse, yet that is what you risk every time you 'free' a bluepill. Their mind may not accept something but it almost probably does accept everything else. Your example of dangerous selfsubstantiation is a very rare occurrence.Lets be realistic... you are prohibited from entering the simulation... would the Machines do this if you were required? Ha. So just get over yourselves, you trespass onto Machine property in order to wake bluepills in order to convince them to join your cause...
Please do us all a favor and stop trying to put words in my mouth. You know perfectly well what was meant there and it was hardly that Zion and EPN are the only ones that could do the job. It was simply to say that its needed (much to our Cypherites friends dismay). As for removing splinters I'll believe it when I see it and given that we have people that took the blue pill still fighting at the impulse I'd say your full of just waiting to believe it or you can show some actual evidence for it. How ironic that the organization that preaches logic and reason still sets so much on blind faith.
GamiSB wrote:Zion/EPN go out and looks for the 1% that have problems with the system. Some can deal with it and cope for awhile but eventually they all hit that stage where nothing makes sense and if they are not removed by Zion they self substantiate and possibly cause others to question or even worse hurting others. So while I'm sure you own bias is going to just ignore all this, even when it comes from the guy that built your dream world, Zion freeing people is a needed part of the system and without it those 99 dreamers you want to keep all snug in their beds are never going to get that perfect sleep.Lol! You really believe that you are required by the system to wake up the 1% Funniest thing I've heard all day... What do you think Machinists are for? The situation you pointed out is our main duty because we are better at dealing with Humankind than Machine programs. Don't think because of your history that you are still required to do that job, because that's exactly what you job is... history. Machinists can address any issues bluepills may have and if someone is dangerous enough to destabilise the simulation for others and his/herself or just cannot accept the simulation at all then we can see to it that they are freed from the simulation as necessary. Just because someone questions something about the simulation doesn't mean that they require or want waking. A splinter of the mind can be removed, the damage caused by removing them from their world is much worse, yet that is what you risk every time you 'free' a bluepill. Their mind may not accept something but it almost probably does accept everything else. Your example of dangerous selfsubstantiation is a very rare occurrence.Lets be realistic... you are prohibited from entering the simulation... would the Machines do this if you were required? Ha. So just get over yourselves, you trespass onto Machine property in order to wake bluepills in order to convince them to join your cause...
If that is so, then why does Zion exist in the first place?
GamiSB wrote:AlphaCoder wrote:So the fact that I simply noticed something was wrong and one of your fools latched on to that and approached me about it has nothing to do with the fact that I am in the Real? The way you butter up being "free" could make anyone take the red pill, then they're stuck, just like the rest of us poor s*ds, all because you lot can't keep yourselves contained when you see someone who is starting to see through the wonderful world they live in.As for buttering it all up, I can't say I was there for your awakening or knew how it all went down. In some causes I can understand why people went as they did such as with Haigen, but every awakening I have seen done by a Zionite/Neonite is cliche at best and follows almost word for word what Morpheus told Neo. Recruiters/awakeners/whatever you want to call them make it perfectly clear that this isn't some ride at Disney, you won't be able to turn back, and that it is a hard and almost unbearable truth. Which is all Zion or EPN have ever offered. That redpill wasn't handed out promising a 4 star hotel to stay in once its all over, or a new wonderful life. Just the truth. If yours didn't go according to plan sorry you got dealt this hand but you had it coming from the moment you felt the splinter but you always had the option to play it or fold.You mean to tell me you don't think/see how telling them they have been living a lie is practically a guarantee that they will pop that stupid red pill? "You've been living a lie, discover the truth". You think people are going to turn that down, once you have said that they don't listen to the rest of what you tell them, they are too busy wondering what the hell "the truth" is gunna be after being blissfully ignorant for however long.You are no longer required, why can't you accept this and go gracefully, let the Machines sort you out with a comfy disconnecting, don't go kicking and screaming just because there is nothing left for you to do here, why can't you see that that's the case?
Right, John Doe, father, working for a nice software company living in Tabor Park is just going to jump at the impulse of "Everything you know is a lie!" without having ever thought that in the first place. Leave his wife, kids, job, everything just cuse some druggie on the street tells them to take a pill? Seriously start actually thinking for realistically here.
You know that saying "No one can be told what the Matrix is" You ever stopped and wondered exactly why that is? Because it takes someone that is completely insane by bluepill standards to believe the truth. No one that has had no reason to question the Matrix is going to want to be freed from it. You don't ask why 2+2=5 without knowing figuring that something might be wrong and that's exactly what the Matrix tries to cover up. Tells people to believe something that only 1% realise that something is wrong. And then even that isn't enough to go out looking for the answer or even believing it when you do find it. You have people that just don't care, people that are to lazy, people that are fine with it it being 5 but do realize that something's wrong. There is much more to the process then fancy quotes and two pills.
And finally I don't give a *CENSORED* who does it. I just see a lack of it coming from the Machines and the complete opposite coming from Cypherites. All I, Zion, or EPN really care about is that it happens. Where they go, what they do, what they choose, is all up to them and as long as they got to make their choice then I'm perfectly fine with letting them swallow that little blue pill.
Vinia wrote: Don't think because of your history that you are still required to do that job, because that's exactly what your job is... history. If that is so, then why does Zion exist in the first place?
Don't think because of your history that you are still required to do that job, because that's exactly what your job is... history.
No words were put in your mouth, what I highlighted was the lack of words from your mouth. If you mean something, say it. If we were to apply what we think you meant, that'd be putting words into your mouth. Show me a bluepill who has had questions about his environment, taken the bluepill and is still 'fighting at the impulse'. Just because you haven't seen it does not mean its not happening. I've not seen Zion or EPN wake any bluepills for a good while, but that does not mean its not happening...
Lack of evidence does not mean you can disregard peoples beliefs or that something isn't happening. Also, whilst I represent my Organisation, basing any assumption on it's beliefs and thoughts on my own is flawed.
Haigen wrote:Cinquez was responsible for murdering John Peskin and several other sleepers simply because they weren't interested in his or Zion's agenda. John was killed before he could provide us with information many months ago. We took upon ourselves to make him pay for his crimes. "Was there something prior to this that shows him killing one or are we just going off the word of Cypherites that it happend?"Not that your word doesn't mean anything just you know, picture is worth more.
Cinquez was responsible for murdering John Peskin and several other sleepers simply because they weren't interested in his or Zion's agenda. John was killed before he could provide us with information many months ago. We took upon ourselves to make him pay for his crimes.
"Was there something prior to this that shows him killing one or are we just going off the word of Cypherites that it happend?"
Not that your word doesn't mean anything just you know, picture is worth more.
