MxO_Neopill wrote:

OMG OMG OMG, leave it on, but let me in, I wants to use my lvl 99 abs!!!!!!

I really would laugh if they restarted it and you couldn't load any of your abs

How do you level past 50 in a matter of a few hours?!

Sounds like they're going to try something....

I'm taking bets on if it will work

3: 1 that it won't!

Ok... I'm getting the feeling that yes it is a technical bug.... but no they can't be arsed fixing it since the game ends in a month or 2......

My opinion.....

The annoying this is that the people who actually bothered to renew their subscriptions before the cutoff date, the promise just hasn't been kept. I saw 2 dates thrown about, June 1st as the cutoff data for billing a subscription, and July 31st as the cut off date.

Never anywhere did I see a mention of 28th of May....

To be fair, anyone that didn't subscribe till the 1st of June is probably just unlucky.... they did mention it even if you didn't have time to read it.... however the people that subscribed before that date should get more than a refund. They should get access to the game that they were promised however if you look at the terms of service it does clearly state that they have the right to refund you for whatever game time and cut you off so there isn't much you can do.

All I can say is SOE has acted totally unprofessionally about this. It's not the Customer services fault either. At the end of the day they're just the bottom feeders (no offense ) you need to have a go at the higher ups who are telling those CSR's what to say!

Denary Input-Hostile!

Mindsweep wrote:

It seems there are more room for trolling and hate in this forum, so go nuts here and show no respect.

Why? Elighten me!

Ra2za wrote:

Gensatsu wrote:

1-What is the exact usage of the Sharpshooter ability? I can’t discern whether it negates a penalty for shooting into an IL that you aren’t engaged in or if there is a general penalty for using guns in IL and sharpshooter negates that. My inclination is that explanation 1 is the correct one which then makes it not relevant for me but I could be wrong…

Hmm last time I heard this mentioned SharpShooter was an inactive ability on the trees?

I thought this was answered earlier on but his first answer is correct.

Sharpshooter negates the penalty for shooting at another player who is engaged in interlock with someone else.

RastaSoulJah wrote:

CodeNut wrote:

GoDGiVeR wrote:

Generally it is to notice that there is a well-known (and publicly accepted) bug that will do the following:

Once an ability is logged to hit (it will take some practice to notice it even before the graphical effect (green flash on ability) takes place, though) you switch to another tactic (most commonly Power for a 20% damage upgrade) and the characteristics of that tactic will follow through to the end of this round and the next one.

 

It's not only a bug, it's an exploit. Teaching exploits is just as bad as using them. 

 

I          /^^^\   |             |

|         |        |   |             |

I____   \____/   |_____    O

That hardly qualifies as an exploit,  more like good strategey.

 

SOE's Community Standards policy, Section 12 states:

You will not exploit any bug in The Matrix Online, and you will not communicate the existence of any such exploitable bug either directly or through public posting, to any other Sony Station member. You will promptly report such bugs via the /bug command in-game or by visiting http://help.station.sony.com. Exploitable bugs include, but are not limited to bugs that grant the user unnatural or unintended benefits in-game. Exploitation of bugs within the game will result in disciplinary action being taken against the account that may include official warnings, account suspensions, or account terminations depending on the severity or repetitiveness of these incidents which will be determined by a CSR and a CSR Supervisor. Multiple suspensions or account termination will result in the termination of all SOE game accounts.

The tactic switching bug is exploited to give players an unintended advantage, the only reason that it's status as an exploit is questioned is because it's very difficult for players to assertain if another player was using this bug when fighting and it would require a re-work of the combat system.

However if you take into consideration the general definition of exploits in Multiplayer games, tactics switching is defined as an exploit therefore somebody who does not come onto the forum that much will probably know nothing about the discussions taken place here.

..........?

Virrago wrote:

Star Trek/Star Wars??

 

I do believe this image applies

OWNED!

Bleach.

ArchDuke wrote:

Denary wrote:

To be honest after watching the film it wasn't bad, however It was just a Star Trek action film and it didn't feel like a proper Star Trek film which usually revolves around the family of the officers. It was probably better than Insurrection, but it doesn't top any other Star Trek film in my opinion.

It was different because the old formula of stories that revolve around tolerance, galactic diplomacy, and the idea that even through adversity the future can look brighter and more wonderous that we can imagine doesn't sell movie tickets.  Moviegoers find that boring and not worth their $10 to see.  What I would suggest doing if you like Star Trek is to continue to read the books that come out.  The ones that Pocket Books put out are really good and satisfy that Trek need we don't get on TV anymore.

And yes, it was better than Insurrection.  Better than Nemesis too, imo.  Here's the thing though.  It looks like the 'Star Trek Movie Curse' has switched.  It goes that the odd-numbered Trek's are of lesser quality than the even-numbered ones.  Nemesis was Trek 10 and was weak.  Now that Star Trek is Trek 11, and is great, it breaks that rule.  Guess this means we'll have to wait for the sequel to see if the curse has really switched sides or not.

As I said to me, as a Star Trek fan, it just didn't feel like a Star Trek film, and definetally wasn't as good as Nemesis. At least nemesis managed to bring out deep hidden emotions in people, and there is nothing in Star Trek (2009) that was as moving as Data's sacrifice in Nemesis.

Nemesis is probably my personal greatest film of all time though as I love the TNG period so I maybe a bit biased, but what I do know is, just because a particular formula doesn't sell movie tickets to the general population doesn't mean that everyone hates it, which is why I personally prefer the majority of the old films to this latest one.

To be honest after watching the film it wasn't bad, however It was just a Star Trek action film and it didn't feel like a proper Star Trek film which usually revolves around the family of the officers. It was probably better than Insurrection, but it doesn't top any other Star Trek film in my opinion.

CPT_Starschwar wrote:

http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/

 

A number 5 and lightning... Which almost certainly means Metal Gear Solid 5, with Raiden as the playable character. Sounds great!

Now, some people insist that's actually an S, and its a sequel to Snatcher, but... teasing us like that would just be mean.

I was about 13 I think... when I played Snatcher.... so on that note I highly doubt it xD.

(I'm 26 now)

I'm not too sure about the game to be honest, Graphics look a little WoW'ified. As do the forums.......

Villemar_MxO wrote:

Denary wrote:

Tornadic wrote:

 I find it hard to believe that they (SOE) deleted this previous thread. This has gone from just ignoring us (which I can live with) to something far worse. So, let me just try to wrap my head around this. Someone with the power to delete forum threads took the time to read the entire thread (or at least part of it), thought "hmm, these people are obviously just confused about the future of the game and frustrated that we're not saying anything" and instead of saying something, anything just deleted this thread? Man the old addage rings true here.

 

SOE hates gamers.

 

Because they're not saying anything let me put on my speculator hat and say what I think they would.

 

Hey guys, I got some not great news. MXO subs are down, we just don't have the budget to give MXO the attention it needs. Don't worry that much though, MXO is a valued part of the station pass so the forums and the servers are not closing down. We'll try to give you one last big update, something that could put the story into the players hands but I can't make any promises we just don't have the money.

or

1/1/10 MXO servers are closing because we hate you jerks. Sub eq1 or eq2. plus we have the agency, play that. we hate this game and all the people that play it. We gave rarebit wedgies every day till he quit. we hated that guy because he liked this game. You all suck.

 

That's probably not the case, but I just want to hear something.

Why are you complaining you broke the forum rules, you got the thread locked.

End of.

No he didn't, he had nothing to do with it.  Another poster got ballistic and hysterically nasty (toward anyone who said anything less than positive about SOE, by the way), and the thread gut really ugly and I suspect that had something to do with the original thread's death.  Nor has Shearman (the OP) said anything outrageous or untoward.   

Actually the entire point of the thread that was locked was to stir up trouble by openly attacking Virrago.... which coincidentally is against the forum rules. Secondly if you check the rules, petitioning is also against the forum rules. It wasn't just the comments made but the entire nature of the thread was against the forum rules from the get go it was nothing to do with the content of the thread, just how that content was put across.

Nothing good comes from getting angry and unfortunately the couple of new (or old) people that have suddenly popped up on the forum are trying to put their views across.

also as a side note and not as an accusation. If you're going to post something don't hide behind a faccade. Show your balls and post it yourself. Appologies if this is untrue however there are at least 2 new people that are very active about putting views across that feel like they have been buildt up for years.

Tornadic wrote:

 I find it hard to believe that they (SOE) deleted this previous thread. This has gone from just ignoring us (which I can live with) to something far worse. So, let me just try to wrap my head around this. Someone with the power to delete forum threads took the time to read the entire thread (or at least part of it), thought "hmm, these people are obviously just confused about the future of the game and frustrated that we're not saying anything" and instead of saying something, anything just deleted this thread? Man the old addage rings true here.

 

SOE hates gamers.

 

Because they're not saying anything let me put on my speculator hat and say what I think they would.

 

Hey guys, I got some not great news. MXO subs are down, we just don't have the budget to give MXO the attention it needs. Don't worry that much though, MXO is a valued part of the station pass so the forums and the servers are not closing down. We'll try to give you one last big update, something that could put the story into the players hands but I can't make any promises we just don't have the money.

or

1/1/10 MXO servers are closing because we hate you jerks. Sub eq1 or eq2. plus we have the agency, play that. we hate this game and all the people that play it. We gave rarebit wedgies every day till he quit. we hated that guy because he liked this game. You all suck.

 

That's probably not the case, but I just want to hear something.

Why are you complaining you broke the forum rules, you got the thread locked.

End of.

Garu wrote:

Denary wrote:

Avath last posted on the 04/25/2009 17:14:00 on this thread!?

Maybe you should at least check what you're posting before you actually post it....?

3 days or 3 months is irrelevant.  It doesn't change the fact that the OP has unsubbed which is all that Mindsweep appeared to be pointing out (aside from the implication that the departure was relative to the discussion of this thread).

>_>

Well I'm under the impression that they're just bugged out of the forum like the 90% of us yesterday were since there are a few other members who have recently posted within the last week who generally have a low rank who are now Jacked Out.

So she probably hasn't left she's just bugged out like the rest of us were. Maybe I'm wrong but still..... he should at least check the claims he makes before posting.

Mindsweep wrote:

Just for everyone's information. The player who started this thread left the game long time ago, wonder why?

 

Avath last posted on the 04/25/2009 17:14:00 on this thread!?

Maybe you should at least check what you're posting before you actually post it....?

Ok so I'm going to throw up one argument here which hopefully might just convince some of you. The rest of you will probably just read over it in an attempt to shield yourselves from the truth or some may find a valid counterpoint in it we shall see.

Now, I'm going to state 3 assumptions.

1) SOE does not care about the state of MxO, only that it continues to make a profit against the cost of maintaining the servers.

2) The majority of players here are die hard fans of the Matrix series and will not leave till the servers shut off.

3) SOE has a relatively good business head on it.

Now the first ever (proper) thread about a server merge was made 12th March 2006 which is more than 3 years ago now and can be found here. Now this thread only briefly touched on the issue and never went into any depth but it was after the CR2 update and around about the time of the exodus from MxO due to the combat system change. Back then some of us had suspicions about the future of this game and due to assumption 3, so did SOE.

The second thread which covered the topic more broadly was made on the 9th July 2007 and can be found here. Now during that time I'm sure we were finding our respective servers slightly less crowded than they used to be which using assumption 3 again SOE will probably have predicted that the game will be going downhill from there especially from this point onwards we saw a slow but steady demise of MxO resources.

Now we have 2 threads here that show a population problem 3 years ago and a 1 year 9 months ago which to be honest I don't see how any business couldn't have noticed since they're the ones with the official figures. The fact that they started draining resources confirms my first assumption since they never really attempted to breathe new life into the game, with the exception of CR2 which incidentally was a monumental failure in terms of population.

Now if we have players who can see this and have the idea of a server merge then I think it's reasonable to assume also that SOE who have a good number of people experienced in managing online games from a business aspect, will have also come up with the idea at some point down the line.

So essentially SOE could either, do the server merge which will cost lots of money and may increase the server population yes but it wouldn't remove the negative reputation that MxO has and we still wouldn't have as large a population as the majority of other MMO's out now so therefore we probably won't make the money back.

On the other hand SOE could leave it as it is taking into account that a lot of players have stated that they will be here till the end on the forums which won't cost them any money and they can be reasonably sure that the income won't drop drastically, which could happen if the server merge failed and they lost all the data on Syntax and Recursion.

So to put into a few sentences, SOE would rather spend as little money as possible to maximise their profits from the game rather than put in lots of money in an idea which may or may not increase the games total population or worst case scenario could make 2/3 of the game vanish in an instant due to the servers failing upon merge.

Again I'll state that I don't think the merge is a bad idea in principle, in fact it's a good idea. It’s just that it would be a big gamble for SOE to commit the amounts of money required with little or no increase in subscriptions.

Neoteny wrote:

...This is the most popular thread on all the boards.

...Shouldn't that say something?

That the horse has now been officially beaten into dust.

Well done all of you for stating the same points for the last 41 pages..... as for me, I shall now paint my garden fence because that is wholly more interesting than the 90% of whiney bastards on this thread.

Ta ta!

So do .Png as he's used and they're usually better because .gif I find leaves grainy pixels at the edges.

If you send it to Veroxidias, thats my character on Syntax.

Ok it's been a while since I've done any sigs but I gave it a shot.

Enhanced Shot

Enhanced Signature.

Villemar_MxO wrote:

Basically, my thinking is that if SOE is serious about keeping this game running, as a "Legacy" or "Attic" game, at a certain point I think it would behoove them to merge the two nonhostile servers.  Even though it would require a temporary allocation of developer(s), it would save them money in the long run by not having the expense of a third server and it would retain more players than if they did nothing and let Recursion wither and die.

So the bottom line is, how serious is SOE as far as keeping this as a Legacy game?  If theyre not, I don't see the point of having a game in six months that has a total of ten or twenty players total.  They'd have to shut it down.....and lose the distinction of never have shutting a game down before.  Otherwise it would be like a town that keeps spending big money to keep an Aquarium open that has no fish in it

It makes no sense.  Oh well, we'll see what happens.

It makes no sense in terms of the buisness world yes. I can see where your coming from but the problem lies within the technical aspect of the problem and it won't be solved by a temporary allocation of devs.

Quite simply it's not a simple matter of copy and paste. There are rules set down to have a normalized database which I'm not going to go into because.... it's beyond a good 80% of people on this forum. Certain bits have to be picked out of the database to be transfered. Now Rarebit has been working on MxO for as long as I can remember and he's stated before now that he's only scratched the surface of the actual coding of MxO. At the end of the day the only way it's going to happen is if a bunch of devs reverse engineered the coding behind the game which I'm going to assume they can't because of some legal BS put in place by either WB or Monolith.

Even if the game was reverse engineered the launcher would also have to be updated to reflect the change. The custom type created for each server in the database would have to change also to accomodate the fact that the new merged server would have 6 character slots which then requires that all the data in the new server be re-ordered to accommodate that.

In the end it's a lot of sweat and graft that SOE would need to put in to actually make this happen. Assuming that WB and Monolith allow them to.

I'm not saying that a merge is a bad idea, far from it. However what I'm saying is currently technical and legal issues will probably mean that the idea isn't going to work.

Try logging in from the MxO launcher, I've never been fond of the station launcher.

Although if it is a problem then the station launcher has it's own board for it's problems. Try here

LtCmdr_Tsusai wrote:

Going to Uriah doesn't solve anything. Most of the new players themselves go "omg dead server" and bail on Syntax. And we don't sugar coat it, I tell any new player if they want a full server, thats where to go. Yes, I'm intentionally destroying our server, but hey, making someone happy and making them KEEP playing the game is better than them getting pissed off and going "this game sux"

To be honest, if a few players were around Uriah to suck up the new players coming in it would at least encourage the players who immediately come in and quit because they find nobody around to stay.

At the end of the day, my idea is an alternative to an idea which has less than 1% chance of actually happening. Even if every player in the game screamed for a merge it won't happen for two reasons.

1) We no longer have the expertise to do a merge of the servers. Even with Rarebit we didn't, only the original monolith team did.

2) Public views, At the moment I'm sure we're not one of the top ten games probably due to the fact that we've had absolutely no marketing since the Wb -> SOE switchover. If however we suddenly went from 3 servers down to 1 or 2 every nay-sayer about MxO is going to have a field day going "The end is nearly in sight".

The only time we are going to see a change in the number of servers is when we go from 3 --> 0

So no offense but trying to shoot down an alternative idea which requires only a little bit of time from players (not devs) to one that was shot down almost 3 years ago..... is slightly pointless. It's not something that requires money or dev time, just your time and to be honest I'll be spending what little time I actually play in this game helping those newbies.

GQubed wrote:

Denary wrote:

Here's an Idea. Instead of bickering on the forums about what you can do shield yourselves from the fact that your server is dead why don't you go on your server and try to catch a few of the newbies who pop up in uriah because the reason your server is dead is because they log in and find themselves in a huge new area and don't meet anyone for the first 3 hours of playing.

 

right because 1 new person a day times 20 days and there will be 23 ppl online... on wait, there are no new people

Bollocks, I spent about 30 minutes chatting to someone at Uriah NE and saw around about 4-5 new players without a faction, all it takes is a few seconds to say 

"Open your map, zoom right out and look for Mara Congregational Church which is north on the compass. Head there and you'll find players"

Simplez.

Here's an Idea. Instead of bickering on the forums about what you can do shield yourselves from the fact that your server is dead why don't you go on your server and try to catch a few of the newbies who pop up in uriah because the reason your server is dead is because they log in and find themselves in a huge new area and don't meet anyone for the first 3 hours of playing.

TimeMaker wrote:

Well thank you all for the welcomes, now I'm going to remain stanting at Mara C ans stare at Omnipotentll until something happens.

Don't worry, Eps will punt you soon.... and WB

This is the direction we'll be going in. Personally I don't think it's a good direction. I'd rather all my media was kept in one place so I know what Mistakes is on about when he says our rights, although I wouldn't put it so melodramatically.

It's going to be good for the little kiddies and the casual gamers as they no longer need to think. they just click, buy, play. and really it's a good idea for the most part but I'm worried about how this technology will be implemented in the future. It might not just be the death of Minimum requirements but it could be the death of PC's. 

If a game which requires huge amounts of input and output operations to be performed every second can be done across the world from the actual processing portion of the game then it has implications for the entirety of data storage. Soon we could be seeing (as just one possible outcome of course) the localization of all the data into one central point. At the moment computer power is progressing so far that it's becoming possible for one central database with a huge multilayered processor to power thousands of dumb terminals. We could potentially be looking at a future where we no longer know exactly where our data is being stored. You would sit infront of a dumb terminal which would be a computer which can perform input/output and send/recieve data through the internet. Then you would just login and have your files available to you on a server.

Everything then can be localized at one central point and then there's no limit to what the companies owning this system can do. They could charge a user a specific amount of money for each song you listen to, each time you listen to it for example.

Looking back over I maybe over dramatised this situation and maybe went a little off topic as well but I'm posting it anyway because it is one of the things that I feel is a possibility with increasing chance. Anyway to sum up (and to stay on topic) Do I think OnLive will be a success? No doubt in my mind. Do I think it's a good idea? Nope.

GoDGiVeR wrote:

So another movie (70%) / game(30%) is coming out, eh?

Maybe.... but maybe some people like that.

There will be some around but to find them it's best to find a reasonably populated faction.

Most factions will have some lowbies.

MetaLogic wrote:

Why is SoE holding onto MxO, and yet not doing anything for it?  I know that they took us as a deal for some MMORPG for a DC or Marvel based MMORPG, but comon.  The Matrix Online deserves better than to be ignored, to not have a lead Dev, to not have updates, etc.  There are other MMORPGs that have lower numbers than we do, and they're treated better than we are. 

Maybe it's time we start looking for a gaming company that'd be willing to talk to SoE about turning MxO over to them.  That if we can get past all the licensing issuses and copyrights etc.

Unfortunately we don't look for gaming companies. The gaming companies look for us, and as soon as they take one look at us they're not going to bother especially as we now have very few subscribers and no devs with any experience with the game to give us content.

Gaming companies will not buy us. We're stuck with SOE and so far they're keeping us alive at least so make the most of it since I've yet to find any game thats comparable to MxO.

I'd shut MxO down for 2 weeks, make it as noob friendly as possible. Complete the Vista fixes and then finally re-release as MxO 2.

I have already sent you an offer via email, assuming your name ingame is Telemancer.

Ok for those who are interested I'm going to say that anybody who wishes to buy a single item will have to wait a week. Because I have all 6 items I'd rather send them off as a big group and I am willing to make a deal with these as I put in 0% effort for these (won them).

If they have not sold beyond Tuesday 3rd of Feb I will be then willing to sell them seperately.

Oh yes they are.... should have mentioned that perhaps xD

Although you can switch them I think?

I have all six items, never been used before full stability/purity

If you want to buy 1 or more of the set or the entirety reply or give me a pm/email ingame. Names Veroxidias and we'll chat about prices.